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Motorists have drive to win the battle of the commuters



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Published Date: 08 April 2008
CYCLISTS will tell you that they are fastest when it comes to getting through rush-hour traffic.
But after a cross-city challenge from Bruntsfield to Queen Margaret University, it was the car that eventually emerged as the narrow victor in a "battle of the commuters".

The challenge saw four teams of staff members from the university setting off from the Bruntsfield Hotel at 8.15am yesterday morning.

Tasked with tackling the commute to the university's campus at Craighall, East Lothian, the teams were told to take the quickest route possible with their respective modes of transport – either by car, train, cycle or bus.

And after driving through the morning rush hour, staff members John and Judi O'Rourke, who work in the university's estates and facilities department, emerged victorious by a couple of seconds over cyclists Frederike Van Wijck and Andrew Grainger.

Mrs O'Rourke, who works as a space planning officer at the campus, said: "We're happy to have just sneaked past the bikes to win the race.

"I think if we'd started from Haymarket, though, the train would have definitely come first.

"We said at the start that the people on the bus would lose and it's no surprise that they did. You have to change two or three times to get here, so it takes forever."

The O'Rourkes recorded a time of 23 minutes to complete the course, taking a route through Newington Road, Cameron Toll, The Wisp and the A1.

They arrived at the campus just seconds ahead of the two cyclists, who passed through Blackford Road, the Grange, Dalkeith Road and Newcraighall before taking the A1 cycle route direct to the campus.

Both finished 11 minutes before integrated healthcare research staff Leila Mackie and Rosie Beck, who travelled by foot to Haymarket station before taking a train.

Ms Mackie, who works as a research assistant, said: "The train journey itself is pretty much direct to the university campus but we lost a good ten or 15 minutes just getting to the station."

Finishing last was academic practice lecturer Iddo Oberski who had to change buses three times during a 56-minute trek across the Capital.

The challenge was designed as part of QMU's green week, which has been set up to encourage students and staff to lead "sustainable lifestyles" and travel on public transport.

Gill Kelly, the university's green travel coordinator said: "A lot of people would have thought the car would win, but it's interesting to see that it only just beat the cyclists by a matter of seconds.

"Travelling by train is one of the most direct routes to the university, although it eventually came third in the challenge. As for the bus, it's perhaps unsurprising that it was in last place, as most people will have to change at least twice to get to the campus. However, it still represents the cheapest way to travel."


The full article contains 492 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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1

allknowing,

08/04/2008 12:11:26
I've been saying thos for years, buses are useless!! 56mins!!! just be lucky it wasnt cold and raining!
2

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 12:13:18
They should have got someone to do the same trip on a motorbike. They would have creamed all other opposition!
3

Oot in Juniper Green,

Currie 08/04/2008 12:22:48
Can't understand why he had to change buses 3 times. Only one change is needed. Down to Princes Street then onto the 30 direct to QMU. It's not a quick route from Bruntsfield but it'll get you there.
4

William of Liberton,

EDINBURGH 08/04/2008 12:28:14
I cannot understand why the cyclists did not cut through Marchmont to the Innocent Railway line and cycle all the way off road on the new cycle ways which go behond QMU all the way to Musselburgh. Or does the reference to the "A1 cycleroute" mean Sustrans National Cycle Route number 1?
5

allknowing,

08/04/2008 12:29:10
#2 I would love to have a motorbike, would be great filtering past all the traffic, easy parking etc, but my OH wont allow me:-(
6

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 12:44:05
#5:

Simple. Get a new other half!
7

Gonnae no dae that,

08/04/2008 12:49:11
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
8

Epicuras,

08/04/2008 13:08:12
wonder how much quicker the cyclists would have been if they'd done the race to the old QMU site instead of the out of town one?
9

Conclusive,

Liberton 08/04/2008 13:08:22
The car is king, long live the car......
Why would you get a bus? If you love lycra then cycle, if not, jump in your car...easy.....
10

IainT,

Port Seton 08/04/2008 13:11:30
Does the cyclists' time include taking a shower at their destination? There's nothing worse than coworkers who gets themselves into a good sweat on the way to work and then stink out the office for the rest of the day...
11

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

08/04/2008 13:27:36
I prefer to come to work on my äss. He's a three-year-old and very clever, too.
12

Tricky Dickie ,

08/04/2008 13:29:30
As for the bus, it's perhaps unsurprising that it was in last place, as most people will have to change at least twice to get to the campus. However, it still represents the cheapest way to travel."

??? How much does it cost for someone to take there bike? Thought cycling was free??
13

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 13:30:34
"But government is deliberately making it difficult for car users. Preferring the inefficiency ot the alternatives because they are deemed greener."

You've hit the nail on the head there Jim!

I know that it is supposed to be an entertaining show and therefore subject to a bit of poetic licence, but since when did Clarkson, in his car, ever get beaten by Hammond and May usng alternative modes or transport?

The car is really the best option. If you want to get from A to B even more quickly, you use a motorbike. Motorbikes cause a lot less congestion than cars, in the main, use less fuel and are a lot quicker through traffic. Why are they not being actively promoted? I just can't understand that.
14

Speedy Gonzales,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 13:56:38
#14
'twas repeated a week past Sunday, but last year, the 'Top Gear' team carried out a commute across London from the west(Richmond perhaps?) to City Airport.
Hammond won on a cycle(pedal), JC came second on high speed boat (that was limited to 7MPH upstream), May arrived by M-class 4x4 and STIG arrived by public transport, unsure what positions they came in.
15

Speedy Gonzales,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 13:59:18
#10,
c'mon Iain, obviously the cyclist has the shower at the end of the commute, unlike the motorist who I assume had the shower at the start of the commute, ergo, shower time is equal to both modes. Unless off-course the cyclist is a manky git and requires a pre-cycle cleanse, this would off-course be additional to the driver!
16

Dragonlord,

08/04/2008 14:00:12
This just proves that the coucil congestion charge was a load of cobblers.
17

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08/04/2008 14:00:35
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18

Incandescent,

08/04/2008 14:49:54
Where the deuce is the vitriol of Ms MacArthur? I'm almost disappointed. Almost.
19

fresian,

edinburgh 08/04/2008 15:43:27
No 10, Your comment also applies to anyone who travels by bus...Selfish unwashed poor people, who can't afford a car!!

Where are you Jenny?
20

PaulB,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 15:47:52
Jenny probably decided to walk, and is still on her way :)
21

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 16:00:17
#14

You really walked into that one re Top Gear, oops.

#11 Jim if you want equality between the different travel modes then start by giving equal respect to those who use the different modes. That is part of the problem, that people see cyclists or bus users as a breed apart instead of fellow human beings who probably have a nice big fat car parked up at home. You would be more than happy to take the great unwashed money if they needed one of your taxis. I have seen plenty smelly fat businessmen grunt their way out of their BMW's but whats that go to do with anything. I suppose in your mind the whole of Holland must smell like rancid cheese given the amount of cycling that goes on there.
22

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 16:02:30
Fresian.

Are you saying mother smells because she has never driven and often takes the bus!!!!!

If so - step outside young man :-)
23

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 16:07:52
#22:

No I didn't! I said "...Clarkson..." "...in a car...".

That episode doesn't count because Clarkson was in a speed-boat and to quote the closing lines of the program in question...

"...I couldn't have done the trip in a boat because London doesn't have a river running through it in the first place."

The upshot was that they agreed James May had won in the car.

Well, if politicians and the green brigade can twist things round and tell patent lies, so can Clarkson... Except he wasn't lying. London DOESN'T have a river running through it and James May DID win!

I still say that I would have beaten them on a motorbike though.
24

The Judge,

08/04/2008 16:26:30
Three buses to cover a journey a little over 6 miles? Does anybody have a sensible answer as to why almost every single bus goes through the city centre? What's needed is circular routes not holds ups at the Princes St bus depot.
25

fresian,

edinburgh 08/04/2008 16:32:43
23 scallywag, Shame on you! Are you telling me that you would allow your old mum to travel on the bus. You should be giving her a lift when she needs it...you wicked child.

I presume she at least takes the precaution of wearing a hat when she goes out, otherwise she might get nits from all the poor people.
26

Marathon,

08/04/2008 16:39:14
This was hardly a scientific test.

Interesting proof though of how different people select routes. This highlights the challenge faced by planners in tring to satisfy everybody at once.

Presumably the cyclist didn't get held up in any of the roadworks that currently pepper the city centre. Dare I also point out that the bus would continually be stopping along its route, whereas the cyclist wouldn't...



27

Marathon,

08/04/2008 16:41:44
# 25. One simple answer to your question is that a network of this type is the most efficient way of satisfying a range of different trips.

28

Scallywag,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 16:42:39
#24
No probs with a motorbike or even a wee Vespa would do the trick.
29

Marathon,

08/04/2008 16:43:13
Jim Taylor. What a prat.
30

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 17:11:37
Why is that Marathon?

If you are going to insult someone then at least have the common courtesy to explain the reason why you are doing so.
31

Gorgie_Tony,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 17:42:21
Obviously the bus lost - it had to stop at every bus stop. If the cyclists and cars were forced to stop at every bus stop I think the story would be different. They would need to wait for the time it takes to take on people with walking disabilities, wheelchairs, and buggies - thats the only way to even things up.
32

The Judge,

08/04/2008 17:42:43
#28 If you are forced to change buses 3 times to make a short 6 mile journey I would suggest its anything but efficient.

I have to travel from Liberton to Musselburgh on a regular basis and a round trip takes on average 2hrs.
33

Paul Voltiare,

08/04/2008 18:36:49
#2 - and you'll know all about creaming, eh ?
34

badger464,

08/04/2008 18:45:04
i think they sould have more limited stop buses, or how about alternating between one bus with no buggy spaces and the next with fewer seats for lots of buggys
35

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 08/04/2008 23:50:47
Now now Paul!

Behave yourself!
36

Norman,

09/04/2008 10:48:17
Mopeds.

That's the answer. Quick, economical, cheap. Perfect for the city commuter. Edinburgh's streets are too narrow for buses or cars. (And let's not forget that a lot of traffic isn't the much-maligned commuters but work vans). One thing about bikes is yes, they're green but when they hold up traffic through no fault of their own they cause vehicles behind to produce more emissions than necessary. Mopeds would allow all traffic to flow freely.

Have a subsidised moped scheme and watch that congestion reduce!
37

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 09/04/2008 12:31:19
#37 It sounds like you're just trying to make an excuse to rationalise your own emissions - please explain what is wrong with somebody actually overtaking? To mention nothing of the health benefits or cheaper cost of cycling
38

Norman,

10/04/2008 12:54:02
David H - you'll be a cyclist then!

Some of the streets in Edinburgh are too narrow to allow over-taking, as I'm sure you're well aware. Is cycling that healthy? I'd have thought breathing in even more than is normal of those fumes isn't wise. And then there is the physical risk from accidents. As for costs, yes cycling is cheaper, but I don't get wet going to work nor do I stink up the place, as mentioned above.

I'm also quite happy with my emissions thanks.

 

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