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Wednesday, 9th December 2009

So what did Alex Salmond get Sean Connery as a present? A Sandi Thom CD and signed government white paper, of course

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Published Date: 07 January 2009
THEY have been friends for many years, sharing a political vision for Scotland. But clues to the depth of the relationship between Sir Sean Connery and Alex Salmond have emerged in a series of letters sent last year.
A freedom of information request revealed that the First Minister sent the SNP's most prominent supporter a Sandi Thom CD and an autographed copy of the Scottish Government's white paper on independence among four letters.

They confirm a close friendship between the politician and the James Bond star which has apparently spilled over from the golf course into Mr Salmond's job as First Minister.

The correspondence, sent at the taxpayers' expense, all went to Sir Sean's tax haven in the Bahamas and has been branded "bizarre and deeply, deeply embarrassing" by Labour.

It also revealed the starry-eyed Mr Salmond played secretary to the Hollywood icon, forwarding him scripts and fan mail sent to the Scottish Government.

The first letter, sent on official headed paper last January, reads: "Dear Sir Sean, Sandi Thom has very kindly sent me an advance copy of her new album which will be released in the spring.

"Sandi played at the St Andrew's Day celebrations in Edinburgh to great acclaim, despite the fact her mother had been taken ill on the same day.

"I have greatly enjoyed listening to Sandi's album, so I am forwarding it to you in the hope that you will, too."

The letter also contained a DVD of the presentations made for Glasgow's bid for the 2014 Commonwealth Games and a BBC Scotland compilation DVD. It is signed off: "Best wishes for 2008 to Micheline and yourself. Yours for Scotland, Alex."

Another letter, also sent in January, included a signed copy of the SNP's white paper on independence as a gift.

The letter, signed by correspondence secretary Michael Birrell, read: "The First Minister has asked me to apologise for the delay in sending this to you."

A further letter included scripts from Scottish playwright James Duthie.

The letters have been derided by political opponents, who have questioned whether this was a good use of the First Minister's time and of public money.

A spokesman for the Scottish Labour Party said Mr Salmond's behaviour was "inappropriate". He said: "This bizarre correspondence with Sean Connery is deeply, deeply embarrassing for Mr Salmond.

"He should be doing his job – not swapping records and videos with SNP supporters in offshore tax havens."

The spokesman added: "The irony of signing a copy of a white paper on separation – as opposed to an act of parliament – appears to be entirely lost on the First Minister. It shows he is a talker, not a doer." But a spokesman for Mr Salmond said his critics were jealous of his relationship with the star. He branded Labour's attack a "weird rant".

He said: "Sean Connery is one of the most prominent Scots in the world – the fact that he featured in the successful Commonwealth Games presentation in Sri Lanka was an enormous asset for Glasgow and Scotland, as indeed is his prominent role in the Homecoming campaign at present.

"Labour should take a long, hard look at themselves, because when all this positive work is going on they come across as small-minded and jealous."

Aberdeenshire-born Thom, 27, is a vocal supporter of the SNP and features on the party's website. She also appeared alongside Sir Sean in a recent advertisement for Homecoming Scotland, singing the Dougie McLean song Caledonia.


BACKGROUND

THERE is nothing in the ministerial code to prevent the First Minister or any other minister from engaging in correspondence with individuals or organisations.

The only restrictions concern letters and relationships that affect ministerial decisions.

In particular ministers have to be careful concerning planning decisions, although they can make representations on behalf of their constituents as long as they are removed from making any decisions.

This was the basis of the last major controversy surrounding Alex Salmond when he met and corresponded with Donald Trump's representatives for a golf resort application in his Gordon constituency. However, even though Sir Sean Connery is a personal friend of Mr Salmond's, the First Minister could argue that correspondence with one of the world's most famous Scots, who participates in Scottish Government activities such as the Homecoming campaign, is legitimate business.

A tartan Bond that goes beyond politics?

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1

Wardog™,

07/01/2009 00:04:16


Labour's gift to people?

Thousands bankrupted over unpaid council tax

Joyeux Noel!
2

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07/01/2009 00:07:32
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The Strategist,

07/01/2009 00:10:17
This is a truly awful and highly bigotted piece of journalism.
4

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07/01/2009 00:11:32
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Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 00:12:41
"bizarre and deeply, deeply embarrassing"

Yes, quite, letters from Scottish Parish Council leader to most famous living Scotsman.

Seriously big issue, quite. Well done Maddox, serious journalism. Quite. Do keep up the good work on behalf of New Labour.
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07/01/2009 00:14:35
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Rufus-T-Firefly,

07/01/2009 00:16:17
"But a spokesman for Mr Salmond said his critics were jealous of his relationship with the star".

HA HA HA

YEAH RIGHT!
8

Forward not Back,

07/01/2009 00:19:38
What has this got to do with politics in Scotland? Economic meltdown, the devolved and national government at loggerheads and yet correspondence between the First Minister and an ex-pat actor is in the politics section rather than being a 'feature'? Get a grip!
9

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 00:33:59
I don't know why people are getting so upset about this story. It is both amusing and instructive, revealing something interesting about what goes on in the mind of the enigmatic first minister of Scotland.

The information was revealed in line with our rights to know what ministers are doing, under the Freedom of Information Act. A public official was involved in the process of sending the fan letter so it wasn't a private action. We paid for Mr Birrell to pack all the pressies up and probably take it to the post office, remembering to allow enough time for it to get all the way to the Bahamas, all that way away in the Western Atlantic.

Do the Scottish Nationalists think such information should be suppressed so we common Scots can't poke some innocent fun at the pretensions of Mister Salmond and his hob-nobbing with wealthy people from abroad?

It is fun to think of Mister Salmond bobbing along to the musical stylings of Sandi "I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair" Thom. We might even imagine Mister Salmond fantasising about dressing up as a punk, or at least garlanding hisself with a crown of laurel leaves, or even roses.

Even more fun to think of Sir Sean chucking the CD in the machine, or the round fiing cabinet, in his far-away sun-kissed permanent residence in the Bahamas.
10

Wisnaeme,

07/01/2009 00:36:41

A non story, even by "Hootsmon" standards.

Who cares. We'll have Maddox and the meja Unionistas inspecting some other folk's worn knickers before they're laundered next.

Oh they already do that ,do they.

Uh Huh. Now I wonder why Foulkes sake recommended that course of action.

Security and surveillance was it Mr Foulkes?


Or was it something else.

.
11

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 00:48:34
Striking resemblence between the two.

Hard to tell who is who from that photo
12

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 00:53:33


"Close friends: Salmond and Connery"

As far as I am concerned, they can stay "Close friends"!

But if Scotland had to do 'Battle' neither one of them would be there!

AND THAT IS THE, FACT OF MATTER!

13

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 00:55:00
Laurel and Hardy
14

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 00:58:25




Yes ICSFM's #13,

One disbandoned HBOS, the other disbandoned Scotland!

SPEAKS VOLUMES!, DONT IT?




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07/01/2009 01:04:23
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I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 01:04:24
What is Salmond's collar size these days?

It's getting "beyond a joke"
17

FerryPort,

07/01/2009 01:05:30
Oh I just couldna keep ma gob shut!
This is tripe and you know it is.
Scotsman, our leading newspaper, is churning out this juvenille pi@h abundant
Who gives a hootin'anny what they gave each other last year or any other time?
Really, why can't debate on real issues be made here?
I'm off again
Adios x
18

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 01:10:14


'Like it or Lump It!'

People like "Tommy Sheridan", would die for Scotland!

Shame we do not have more of them!

Albeit he is on "Celebrity Big Brother", but at least we see him on the News, and giving out his passion for the Scots, on the Show!

GO FOR IT TOMMY, MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

As we Know it Will!

:)

19

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 01:13:39
Salmond- A Bridge Too Far
20

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 01:17:02

ICSFM' 19,

Thats for sure!

Anyone can say,.."Well-Done", for opening a Bridge!

I understand the Queen, is good for that!



21

Conan the Librarian™,

07/01/2009 01:17:08
Have any of the above disparagers ever been a leader of a government, or been voted the world's most attractive man?

Don't all rush now.
22

subrosa,

07/01/2009 01:19:27
What a poor quality article. The Scottish government receives fan letters for Sean Connery. The FM says to forward them to him. He also decides to send the man a CD which is relevant to the Homecoming advertising.

Now some individual has spent hundreds of pounds using the FOI Act to dig this up.

The word pathetic is too good in this circumstance. The article doesn't say who applied for the information. Let me guess... it couldn't be David Maddox could it. Surely not. He wouldn't waste taxpayers money in this manner. Surely - not.
23

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 01:21:14

Conan 21,

I have heard through the,...'Grape Vine' that this Guy called,...
.........."Charles Linskaill" makes a good contender!



24

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 01:22:25
#21

I've been to Blackpool and have a remastered DVD of The Great Escape
25

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 01:24:16

subrosa ~22,

Dinnie worry about the Article!, you have the True Scots on Line!

Our Humour and Wit, is beyond comparison! :D


26

Conan the Librarian™,

07/01/2009 01:26:16
22
But we all know a man who would subrosa, for Foulkes sake.
27

Conan the Librarian™,

07/01/2009 01:29:30
24
Good try, but we all know what happened to Gordon...
Jackson.
28

Wardog™,

07/01/2009 01:43:32

7.

Weird Rant every single day
29

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 01:47:50


"Charles" is a good Scottish Name!

Maybe one should stop,...'Pus*y Footing' about, and make,...
........."Linskaill" the Leader!

The "Action" you Would See!

"Tommy" is good, but not nearly good as me! :)




30

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 01:55:18
Salmond should try wearing darker coloured shirts. It might give him the look of having a better neck line
31

Yankee girl,

California 07/01/2009 02:16:15
#23 Charles, I've heard that as well. ;)
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 02:35:11

Yankee girl ~32,

Aww thankyou, 'Yankee girl', not seen you for ages!

I am Soo glad you are back!

Your comments enthrall me, I am sure, 'Bliss' we could be!

But having you, 'on-line' is fine.

(for now, that is)

Well! one never knows the future, do they?

x.

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Yankee girl,

California 07/01/2009 02:38:18
Well Hi, Charles!

I've skulked about a few times lately, but the old crowd seems to have disappeared - except for your handsome self, of course!
34

Alan Reid,

Wellington 07/01/2009 02:54:46
14 Charles Linskaill,
"disbandoned Scotland" Not sure what you mean by that.

Sean Connery hits back at critics by flaunting his pounds 4.6m tax
Independent, The (London), Mar 7, 2003 by Paul Kelbie
E-mail Print Link ONE OF the most high-profile living Scotsmen has launched a pre- emptive strike on critics who scorn his right to support political independence for a country he no longer lives in.

The actor Sean Connery, a staunch supporter of the Scottish National Party (SNP), has revealed how much tax he has paid to the Treasury in the past five years in an effort to stifle criticism of his support for nationalists during the forthcoming Holyrood elections.

Opponents of the SNP, responding to the well-publicised support from such a celebrity, have repeatedly sniped at the star's tax- exile status in the Bahamas - and before that in Marbella - claiming it undermined his commitment to the nationalist cause and made him a "false friend of Scotland".

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"I get battered with this living in Marbella, living in the Bahamas, whatever," the actor said at his Bahamas home in Lyford Cay. "I'm an easy target because of my political opinions but I defy anyone in Scotland to find one detail where I knowingly ever did anything that was to the detriment of Scotland. It gets up my nose."

In a rare interview with Scotland's Herald newspaper, the actor - most famous for his James Bond roles - handed over evidence from his lawyers to show that, despite living in the
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Alan Reid,

Wellington 07/01/2009 02:55:50
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In a rare interview with Scotland's Herald newspaper, the actor - most famous for his James Bond roles - handed over evidence from his lawyers to show that, despite living in the Bahamas, he had paid more than pounds 4.6m in tax to the UK Treasury since 1997, considerably more than the majority of his critics.

In addition, his lawyers said, he had "been either personally responsible for or a major participant in a vast amount of motion picture production in the UK over that time span, which has brought literally millions and millions of pounds of capital into the country, employed hundreds if not thousands of individuals in those films and generated substantial additional tax for the UK Inland Revenue".

Sir Sean said: "Everything I've got is tax paid. I don't have any blind trusts. And I hope this erases some of the cynicism about my financial affairs."

The actor, who regularly earns millions of pounds for his film roles, said: "I pay full tax wherever I am working. That's the way it works in the film industry. Since I've gone out of my way to bring film projects to the UK, instead of Hollywood, that's meant I've paid full tax here."

Copyright 2003 Independent Newspapers UK Limited
Provided by ProQuest Information and Learning Company. All rights Reserved.

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 03:06:19

Alan Reid ~35,

FACT OF MATTER!

"Sean Connery" Does he give money to the SNP?

"Sean Connery" Does he pay UK taxes?

ANSWER NO, NOT ATALL!!

Talk is Cheap! Action Speaks Louder than Words!!

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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 03:10:37


Yankee girl ~34,

As the song goes,..."You are Always on my Mind"!

Flirting, is good for Health!


38

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 03:18:34



Infact! truth be told, "Trump" is doing more for Scotland, than "Sean" is effectively doing!!

END-OFF!!!




39

KampungHighlander,

07/01/2009 03:22:31
#14 Charles

"One disbandoned HBOS, the other disbandoned Scotland!"

I think Charles has been hanging out children far to much, hes even starting to talk like them.

Did someone give you a Eubonics/English Dictionary for Christmas?
40

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 03:22:46
Salmond is watching his weight, though.

Down to ten gin and slimline tonics a day
41

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 03:24:47



Well #40, as they say! "The Truth Hurts"!
42

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 03:27:52



And my comments are of 'UTTER TRUTH'!

Face the facts!





43

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 07/01/2009 03:50:02
#42 & 43

Yo Yo, Big C.

Its hard to unstand which you talking bout!

Youse needa praktis you spelling, Mo Fo!


44

I can see for miles,

07/01/2009 04:01:34
Salmond was going to get him a Taggart DVD box set and a Loch Lomond tea towel, but he couldn't get the budget for it
45

Alan Reid,

Wellington 07/01/2009 04:22:13
37 Charles Linskaill

This is from his website, you tw"t

Sean Connery believes in helping others.
He has donated to and supported literally hundreds of charities. One little known fact about Sir Sean's philanthropy is that he donated his entire salary (well over $1 million) from his Bond film Diamonds Are Forever to the Scottish International Educational Trust which he co-founded. This generous grant — like his many other gifts — has benefited the lives of thousand of ordinary Scots. While not all of the many worthy charities he supports are mentioned on this site, Sir Sean would like you to consider helping others as he has.

"I hope you are enjoying my website. While you are here, I would ask that you take a few moments to consider helping someone else. I will continue to develop this non-commercial website and provide to you electronic greeting cards, wallpapers, and insider information about my career. But I would like you to do something for me in return — I would request that you help me to help others. The charities listed below encompass three areas that are very important to me: education, culture, and Scotland."


Please take a few moments of your time and support these wonderful organizations:





The Scottish International Educational Trust
22 Manor Place
Edinburgh EH3 7DS
Scotland

UK Tax exempt No: SC009207

The Scottish International Educational Trust (SIET) has funded millions of dollars for scholarships to young Scots and Scottish institutions. Your help is needed to continue the work of helping students and educational institutions in Scotland. The SIET helps talented and worthy individuals who need help to achieve their educational objectives.
top

Friends of Scotland
19830 Via Escuela
Saratoga, CA 95070

Tax ID Number: 32-0006211

This US charity, Friends of Scotland, was formed, "… to create, stimulate, and sustain an interest in Scotland and its history, tradition
46

Alan Reid,

Wellington 07/01/2009 04:24:19
2

Tax ID Number: 32-0006211

This US charity, Friends of Scotland, was formed, "… to create, stimulate, and sustain an interest in Scotland and its history, traditions, and culture; to bring together people of Scottish heritage; to promote goodwill and understanding about Scotland among the general public; and to perform charitable works…" Sir Sean serves as the Friends of Scotland's Honorary Chairman.

All donations are greatly appreciated; however, for donations of $500 dollars or more, Sir Sean will send you a personalized signed letter of thanks.

47

Angleland Isover,

07/01/2009 06:24:04
Is there nothing more newsworthy to dig up using the freedom of information act or is it not this comics remit. Bizarre correspondence, come on.
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Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 06:33:12
The correspondence, sent AT THE TAXPAYER'S EXPENSE', all went to Sir Sean's tax haven in the Bahamas and has been branded "bizarre and deeply, deeply embarrassing" by Labour.

So Labour WERE telling the truth about families being 5,000 pounds worse off per year. Now we know where the money's going.
49

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 06:53:06
49
The Labour Party were telling the truth. Of course it would have cost us five thousand pounds if the nats had actually delivered on their promises. They didn't.
50

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 06:54:05
47
Alan,
Why are you quite so keen to promote the standing of a man who advocates domestic abuse?
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 06:57:02
48
I think it's important to see just how pathetic our first minister is. 'Yours for Scotland' indeed. Typical of the self-regarding delusionals who infest the SNP, isn't it? Nobody else is for Scotland, just them...Have they got their own wee code? Maybe they'll write in lemon juice next.....
52

Colkitto,

River Clyde 07/01/2009 07:02:00
A ridiculous piece of journalism again. Quite pathetic actually....
53

Macuistean,

Isle of Tiree 07/01/2009 07:08:13
No wonder people are turning away from this so called newspaper. What a load of Labour rubbish. I wonder what Joke McConnell and Kirsty Wark wrote to each other?
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gus1940,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 07:19:39
And they have the nerve to call it a newspaper.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 07:20:47
54
Aren't the nats great? Even when their leader is caught sounding like a star-struck wee girl it's still The Labour Party's fault. Mental.
56

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 07:29:50
55
And Mr Salmond has the nerve to call it official business....
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07/01/2009 07:47:30
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 07:48:58
59
Yep, here we go again...Mr Salmond is revealed to have a schoolgirl crush on the 'manly' Sir Sean. The nats blame Labour. Priceless.
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07/01/2009 08:17:12
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07/01/2009 08:19:47
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Scotland to prosper...,

07/01/2009 08:21:13
Eh, at least Salmonds not handing out peerages to his friends!

I would rather have the CD anyway...
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DaveK,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 08:22:54
That's ok, Connery can frame the signed white paper in his study as a piece of nostalgia, like so many of the SNP promises.
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Linda,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 08:38:41
This is just another waste of taxpayers money by Lord Foulkes as each request costs £100 which is much more than the actual gifts Labour and their press allies seem to think is embarrassing.
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Queen D,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 08:55:01
I have read a great deal of drivel and balderdash in this newspaper and in its Glasgow sister, but this doea take the biscuit!

How are the circulation figures this weather?

Scotsman has'nt sacked the staff and made them reapply for their jobs yet, but it can't be long now.
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57vintage,

Keith 07/01/2009 08:58:13
2 things.

1. Why is this a story? It was also in today's P&J which I read over breakfast. What a waste of time and effort.

2. The FM's judgement must surely be in question if he rates the talent-bereft Sandi Thom. We do not have to enjoy something just because it's Scottish or from Macduff FFS.

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seillean a mhirdenibha,

Williamsburg 07/01/2009 09:00:26
This is one of the more infantile pieces of journalism that I have ever seen in a newspaper--anywhere. Reminds me of high school age females passing notes about someone they dislike.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 09:10:53
68
Talking of schoolgirls, isn't the picture of our first minister with Sir Sean a hoot? My sister got her picture taken with David Essex. She's got exactly the same stupid expression on her face as Alex.....
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donald anderson it's me,

glasgow 07/01/2009 09:11:26
Didn't Tory Bliar flood Downing Street with celebrities?
69

Alastair the First,

07/01/2009 09:12:40
This might be trivia but how could it possibly be regarded as "deeply deeply embarrassing"? These Labourites truly are getting desperate.

Deeply deeply embarrassing is when you get caught accepting illegal donations...
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 09:12:51
70
Aye, blame Labour, you couldn't make this up!
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Ananurhing,

07/01/2009 09:16:12
Don't know which is the most sneering. The headline, or the labour party's response. Pretty lame stuff all round. All this says to me is that Scottish labour still haven't got to grips with being in opposition.
Not even yah boo politics. More Na na na na na na!
Why is this even an article? The story should be about the waste of public money on pointless FOI requests.
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Andy Mac,

G20 07/01/2009 09:17:54
Connery has paid several million in taxes to the UK treasury despite not living here.

It's sad to see the jealous diss one of their own just because he lives in the sun. Sad, but predictable...
73

A Crofter,

I ain't going to play Trump City 07/01/2009 09:18:27
You forgot to mention 007's freebie of lifetime membership. Sorted!!!

And who is Sandi Thom?
74

Faux Cul,

07/01/2009 09:20:59
I didn't think that Charles Linksaill was a drinker.
75

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 09:24:39
73
It's an important article because it reveals just what a diddy and starstruck girl our first minister is. Money well spent!
However let's look at how much gaelic translations in Holyrood cost. Nobody needs it, there are no gaelic-only speakers in Scotland so why waste public funds indulging a loud-mouthed minority?
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 09:30:35
77
Arf arf, the nats leader is exposed as a big starstruck jessie - and all the nats can do is girn about Labour. Typical!
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Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 09:34:26
What a pathetic piece of fluff masquerading as journalism. Raise yer game Mad Dog.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 09:36:13
83
My goodness, now it's the journalist's fault.....
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Ananurhing,

07/01/2009 09:40:01
The tone of Maddogs's articles seems to have changed over the last year or so. He appears to have stepped into McMahon's shoes to become labour's attack puppy at the Hootsman.

What has he been offered I wonder? Perhaps he's simply got one eye on JP's share price, and the other on a job opportunity. What is obvious to all is how he's abandoned journalistic standards to ingratiate himself with either the JP board, or Nuslab.
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Nevsky,,

Moscow 07/01/2009 09:43:52
Can foreign journalists be put forward for the Pulitzer prize?

This is one of the most outstanding pieces of investigative journalism i have read in a long time.

Tomorrow a follow up piece is due to appear with the shocking revelation that a member of staff was used to post Government Christmas cards and that a bottle of water was used to wet the stamps at a cost of £1.22 to the Scottish taxpayer...can't wait!
81

Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 09:44:07
84

Its fine if he is writing this drivel only for half-educated dunderheid gie-awa-yer-ile low-esteem no-backbone British Nationalists like you. Most of the rest of us are thinking educated Scots and deserve better.
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salmondella,

UK 07/01/2009 09:46:59
Salmond will neither be stirred or shaken by this piece of trivia and gossip. Still, has brightened a dull morning up for me - what next - a Hearts mug for the milk man?
83

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 09:47:13
84 Grahamski

If you enjoy reading this kind of pap, buy OK or Hello magazine.

"Correspondence at the taxpayer's expense." - what a laugh. A couple of stamps. I wonder if Jack McConnell ever wrote to labour backers ....
84

Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 09:48:40
#85

Aye, maybe he is looking to be New Labour's 'craw'. He has the right qualifications. Like Crow has for his post as the Scottish & British Nationalist 1 x MP craw.
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Ananurhing,

07/01/2009 09:51:02
#78 "A loud mouthed minority"?
Pot kettle black my friend. I think it's labour doing the girning. Over a piece of paper and a CD?
I mean it's not as if Salmond's taking cosy wee holidays in Majorca with BBC journalists, or something equally stupid. It's a small gift to an influential supporter. There's no story in that. Or any wrongdoing.
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Ananurhing,

07/01/2009 10:02:35
#90 Darien
"The right qualifications"

What, sycophantic and biddable? Seems to be all that's required. That and a willingness to abandon professional standards.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 10:13:29
I see yet another one of New Labour Sleaze and Corruption's finest has found himself caught with his snout firmly in the trough. No, I don't think it's an ex Glasgow East MP.

Come on down John McVicar, former chief of the Glasgow Housing Association, who fraudulently claimed benefits.
The Labour Party activist, who was elected to the GHA board in the summer of 2005 and is vice chairman of Maryhill Local Housing Association. He has overseen the evictions of tenants who have fallen behind in rent while he himself was falsely claiming benefits. He has also resigned from Maryhill Local Housing Authority.

Does he share an office with alleged fraudster, David Marshall, who is alleged to have illegally fiddled £750,000 in expenses?????

McVicar's fraud spanned 14 years!!

Thank God New Labour Sleaze and Corruption have been kicked out of office, never to return.

Vote SNP, for a fairer Scotland for EVERYONE!
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Scotsman in Dublin,

07/01/2009 10:28:51
What an extremely biased article. Even though Sean C has provided evidence of paying a huge amount to the UK taxman we stil get phrases like "Tax Haven" slipped in. It never ceases to amaze me that Labour can accept illegal donations, kill thousands of people in illegal wars, wreck the economy etc, etc, but because they have the media in their back pocket the first minister sending a letter to an important Scottish figure can be twisted to sound like an ethical issue?
89

shivago8,

livingston 07/01/2009 10:29:09
Two great scotsmen fighting for a free and better Scotland,nothing wrong wi that.
Good on you boys and can I heap more fuel to your fire.
Scotland the Brave
90

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 10:36:41
I look forward to the scotsman article tommorow on the contents of correspondance between gordon brown, Ian Rankine and JK rowling.

The Scotsman of course being a 'professional impartial newspaper' will no doubt be as incisive and disparaging as it has been over Salmond/connerys correspondance.

or will it?
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 10:38:39
Its certainly very unusual, to say the least, for politicians to offer gifts to the famous, privileged and wealthy?

Usually, its the other way round, if any of the recent scandals involving Tory, Labour and Lib-Dem politicians is anything to go by!
92

Ananurhing,

07/01/2009 10:48:47
#93 Jimmy

Apparantly we've got that story all wrong. What was it McVicar said in his defence? "I don't see it as fraud".
Obviously some reserved right to trough.
93

Miss H,

07/01/2009 10:50:57
This is a really interesting story. Not.
94

Miss H,

07/01/2009 10:54:28
67 You just don't understand politics do you?

You may not have to like someone just cause she's from Macduff but the member for Macduff certainly does!
95

Miss H,

07/01/2009 10:55:48
45 That has the ring of truth to it for me. Sounds like he just sent him whatever was lying around the office!
96

McP,

Cowdenbeath 07/01/2009 10:57:22
Sandi Thom is rubbish and shows up just the sort of 37th rate 'art' we would be subjected to in an SNP independent utopia.
97

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:02:25
94
Get a grip, wee Alex has been caught sending prezzies and fanmail to a filmstar who he idolises like some teenage Take That fan.
All the humnourless nats can come up with is more smears and blaming Labour. Again. Yawn.
98

Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 11:04:35
There must be quite a few Jim Murphy clones in the Labour Party if this is the best they can up with. Although I do admit that I quite enjyed the picture of Gordon Brown with his role model Margaret Thatcher outside 10 Downing Street (I bet Grahamski's got it framed in his living room).
99

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 11:05:40
104 its a non story unless its balanced with what the like of brown and Murphy and co have been sending people why is that not in the article?
100

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:09:19
103
Sandi Thom was that wee lassie who got caught pretending she was something she wasn't. Her extremely powerful record label faked a series of web broadcasts from a faked London flat to launch her career. Any credibility she had (not a lot) evaporated like Brigadoon mist. Still, the first minister likes her. And he's a fat, middle class, fifty-something man - so that should play well with all the kids who identify with her hippy/punk split personality conundrum she's got going on....
101

Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 11:09:56
#104 Grahamski

So you approve of John McVicar evicting tenants for owing money, while busy fiddling benefits himself (and for 14 years at that!)?
I thought the law applied to everyone equally.

Seems New Labour Sleaze and Corruption think they are above the law!!
102

Grahamski,

07/01/2009 11:10:22
105
Would that would be the same M. Thatcher the SNP traitors managed to get elected is it?
103

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 11:11:37
109 Give it a rest Grahamski that one is as old as the hills.
104

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:13:15
108
arf arf arf
Jimmy Pieman tries to ignore his leader being exposed as a pathetic love sick puppy fan worshipper and goes for a lame attack on Labour.
You should get yourself a bracelet like Mr Salmond's - it's got WWSD on it (What would Sean Do)......laugh? You'd need a heart of stone not to guffaw in his lovestruck bawface......
105

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:14:52
109
Yep and so is Marvin Gaye singing 'What's Going On' but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear it....
106

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 11:16:14
What happened ? Did you have a bad experience at a cinema Grahamski ? I mean who cares about this guff. It's hardly politics.
107

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:17:35
113
You're right, it's not politics. It's a laugh.
108

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 11:17:51
If you read this story in conjunction with the other Connery story (top right) headed "A Tartan Bond That Goes Beyond Politics," it is clear that Sean Connery has lost the plot. He clearly thinks that he is making a modern remake of his 1975 movie, The Man Who Would be King. Looking at the disdainful expression on Connery's coupon in the photo above he thinks that Salmond is an uppity little extra who has exceeded his depth.

The friendship line is very touching. The question is, will it survive the failure of next year's putative independence referendum, or, as is most likely, will Connery be off quicker than you can say Double Oh Seven?
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Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 11:20:51
#105 Saul: Jim Murphey - the career of a New Labour clone:

- 1979 "escaped economic hardship of Scotland" when family emigrated to South Africa (Union Dividend?)
- 1992 graduated Strath Uni
- 1992-96 President of the National Union of Students Scotland and then NUS-UK
- 1997 elected as MP

Oh, so he's never had a real job then. And economic hardship is again the blight of Scotland. Scotland needs rid of such clowns/clones.
110

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 11:21:37
Grahamski, if the most the scotsman in its continued smear campaign can dig up is the sending of a second hand CD i dont think there is too much to worry about bar the immoral manipulation of the scotish press
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Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 11:24:00
109 Please no anti-English sentiments just because the English voters got Thatcher elected. No comment on Gordon's photo with Maggie? Two right wingers hand in hand. Not even an attempt at justification from Grahamski who loses his credibility through his slavish obedience to New Labour and his determination to answer every single post even at the risk of comming across as the local branch idiot.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 11:27:54
118
Perhaps if the SNP hadn't spent so long with their sanctimonious girning when they were in opposition they wouldn't be facing the relish others are taking in their own misdemeanours.
In the meantime back to wee Eck's fan mail....hilarious!
113

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 11:27:56
117 close similarity to the Alexander twins is it not?
114

SimonHurrll,

south 07/01/2009 11:28:05
So is this really non journalism?
When overseas residents [Not the Non-Doms we all heard about last year] who live in Tax Havens are, allegedly, invited to fund a political party is this not contrary to the Law?
If this had been a Conservative or Labour or Liberal MSP or MP there would be outcry at the highest levels.
Of course this is a valid piece of journalism.
115

Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 11:31:16
Hey Grahamski, wonder what did Brownshirt sent Maggie for xmas? Maybe his book on courage?
116

Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 11:36:23
123 Darien,
I heard he sent her a nice thankyou letter for allowing him to continue with her policies. The very least he could do.
117

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 11:38:29
SimonHurrll, The sending of a second hand CD be seriouse
118

Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 11:38:59
The Scotman's (and Grahamski's) opinion:

Salmond + Connery = scandal

Brown + Thatcher = touching
119

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 11:44:51
102 Rulersbutnotrubbers

Idiot.
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Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 11:46:32
116 Churchill

See #127
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Nikostratos,,

07/01/2009 11:47:06
absolutely shocking no other words to describe this incident..to send a letter yes a letter and a signed one at that surely a resignation matter.


Although sending someone a Sandi Thom CD may not be considered an act of friendship.
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Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 11:47:39
122

You don't really understand how donations work - do you?
123

Wardog™,

07/01/2009 11:49:09


Labour ' Weird Ranters' one and all.


Superb
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AJ Fife,

07/01/2009 11:49:41
David Maddox = an enemy of all right minded Scottish people
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Nikostratos,,

07/01/2009 11:51:05
#126

Thacher and Brown live in the united kingdom Connery does (by his own choice) not.

a real sunshine patriot is sir sean.
126

Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 11:52:00
just wondered who actually writes these story's is it Scotsman journalists or labour party Staff.

Any from the Scotsman care to comment on this?
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 11:52:18
Seems like the little band of Labourtory cringers dislike both Sean Connery and Sandi Thom, not to mention Alex Salmond.

I wonder who else is on their “despised” list?

Robert Burns, Alexander McCall Smith, William McIlvanney, Annie Lennox, Dougie MacLean, Keir Hardie, John MacLean, Hugh MacDairmid, Jimmy Reid, Jim Sillars, Margo MacDonald, Murray Ritchie, .................................et al?

Never mind, they have a number of social and political icons they can look up to, such as; Lulu, George Foulkes, and yon firebrand Lord Swan Vesta of Matches fame.

It must be a sad life being a unionist, bereft as it appears of all notions of pride or appreciation of Scottish identity or culture.
128

livilion,

livingston 07/01/2009 11:53:23
So Alex Salmond thanked the Homecoming Scotland advert participants with a letter and forwarded Sir Sean a free copy of Sandi Thom's latest CD?

Pushing the boat out a bit, eh?

How much did Honest Tony spash on his 'Cool Britannia' celeb parties at No10, and how much has Gordon Brown cost us entertaining his idol Baroness Thatcher?
Let's not even go near the Lanarkshire Murphia's efforts...

Bet it's more than the price of a couple of jiffy bags and a stamp.

The Rt. Hon Baron Foulkes of Cumnock President of the Caribbean Britain Ligitimate Businessmen's Council, does the nation a great service by highlighting the magnitude of deeply embarrassing small minded ranting going on in this country.
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Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 11:53:48
Grahamski sounds like a stuck record, the same drivel repeated over and over. Does he/she/it just copy and paste his/her/its own posts? Of course nationalist supporters are complaining. This is yet another prime example of media bias in Scotland. Non-stories about the SNP are trotted out and low-life slime like Lord for-Foulkes-sake are prised from under their rock to utter some deprecating she-ite to make it appear like something worthwhile. Where are all the articles about Mandy Mandelson taking holidays on oligarch's yachts in the Med or how Gordy Broon-Troosers has given huge gifts to his pals in big business in the shape of tax brakes and PFI contracts? Grahamski, you should be ashamed of yourself but you have neither the wit, wisdom or self awareness to be capable of knowing what a tu-rd you are. There are no lame attacks on Liebour, they are beyond parody, beyond belief and well overdue for a thrashing at the polls, something that you are making more likely with every bit of support you give them. What a quandary for you, support Liebour in forums like these and make them even more unpopular, or stop supporting them and watch them fail miserably anyway? Hobson's choice for you, an obvious choice for us, vote SNP and banish the likes of Broon forever. (Where is he going to live when Scotland is independent anyway? He certainly won't be welcome north of the border)
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Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 12:07:59
What can we look forward to tommorow' Alex Salmond took a hot water bottle filled at Taxpayers expense to bed to ward of the cold !!! heavens preserve us.

How lucky we are that such state of the Art investigative journalism goes on. The New york post must look on with envy
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Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 12:17:46
Nicol Sturgeon is Eddie Munster
....the nationalists have chosen to ignore the real champions of scotland who lit up our dark wee corner of europe with something called an enlightenment.


Such as ?
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Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 12:20:04
Oh yes in fifity years time we will be attending dinners in tribute to Wendy Alexanders acheivements sorry i forgot
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Thistledhu,

07/01/2009 12:27:49
147 and cue smokescreen
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Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 12:28:10

Who gives a monkey on what gift our First Minister gives to Sean Connery. What an utterly pathetic article.

By contrast,New Labour have given us much more.
http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd%5B347%5D=x-347-559597
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 12:33:14
#143
Would that be the same Scotland as I inhabit?

You know the one, the one with the capital “S” as the first letter?

You don’t appear to have benefited greatly from the “Enlightenment” yourself.
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Edward,

07/01/2009 12:33:45
God yet another anti SNP story, no doubt inspired from a Labour spin doctor. The Scotsman was once a respected newspaper, now it fills its columns with anti SNP, pro Labour tittle tattle. Its interesting that there is a story involving a Labour MSP and his Mother in Law in a hospital , but no comments allowed , I wonder why?
Is sad that the Scotsman cannot get news stories that are relevant to what is going on, such as Labour's handling or miss handling of the economy or the war in Gaza. Nope it prefers coming up with meaningless stories which are aimed at attacking the SNP. What ever the SNP have done against the Johnson Press group, simply doesnt warrent this kind of output.
The founder of the Scotsman must be spinning!
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Edward,

07/01/2009 12:36:00
#147
And which version of History will you be reading then?
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Miss H,

07/01/2009 12:37:26
147 says 'as Hitler and Stalin proved, Nationalism is all style and no substance.'

Do you ever think about how words strung together form sentences and what those sentences might mean?

That's an important part of what grown ups call communication. It's especially important if you want a career in journalism.
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Miss H,

07/01/2009 12:41:45
116 You can analyse a person's character and motivation from looking at their picture? A career in journalism may also beckon you once you have left school. You could be the new Mystic Meg.
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57vintage,

Keith 07/01/2009 12:42:41
#100 Miss H.

I think I do understand politics, but this isn't about me.

The member for Macduff in Holyrood is Stewart Stevenson by my reckoning. I don't have any knowledge of his musical preferences. If you mean the First Minister (in which context he has sent stuff to a well-known supporter in this non-story), he is the MSP for Gordon, which does not include Macduff. He is MP (Westminster, ken?) for Banff and Buchan and that is not valid in this context. I'd be tempted to respond that you perhaps don't understand the difference between any hick constiuencies and the destinations of their elected representatives north of the central belt but you are usually a poster of some intelligence and perception, so I won't.

Those who have commented on Ms Thom's disingenuousness in her rise to some sort of popularity among the bland are correct. One must admire the quine, however, in selling thousands of records with little evidence of talent. Her style over substance image works for major party politicians, so why shouldn't she benefit in the free market so beloved of them all by selling something she's got (whatever it is it isn't talent).

This is still a non-story though.
143

Dunfesterin,

Your hoose 07/01/2009 12:42:45
Hardly on a par with Jack McConnell and Kirsty Wark's wee holidays together or Wendy Alexander's bung is it?

Why should Alec not correspond with Sir Sean, ffs the man has done more for the cause of independence than any other non-politician.

Why is this paper called The Scotsman when it's so obviously led by England? Rename it "The Unionist" and then we'll all know where we stand
144

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 12:43:14
138
My, but isn't it an impressive sight; a foam-at-the-mouth, howl-at-the-moon, lunatic fringe nat in all his deluded, incoherent ranting glory.
It must upset him terribly that his leader spends so much time trying to disassociate himself from whilst he attempts to ingratiate himself with an elderly matinee idol with a taste for domestic violence.
No wonder poor Billiam sounds so angry.....
145

Stuarty purty,

Third on the left after Over the the hills and kee 07/01/2009 12:45:12
Oshum! Shimply oshum!
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 12:50:16
I still don't see why Scottish Nationalists are getting so upset about this story. It's just a funny story. And it is clear that they are really, really upset.

Over 150 messages complaining that this is not a story, that it's malicious, that it was wrong to use the Freedom of Information Act, that Sir Sean may be a tax exile in the far off Bhahamas but he does a lot of good work for charity (but he doesn't like to talk about it), and what about that housng association in Glasgow, eh?

They must be really, really insecure, despite all their huffing and puffing.
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brownlie,

07/01/2009 12:50:30
157 Grahamski

In fairness and to present a balanced article Maddox should have pointed out that Jim Davidson supports the Tories and John Michie supports Labour - if he's paid enough. That should get the Nats drooling with envy.
148

The Master,

07/01/2009 12:51:35
"Bizarre" is the word for it; indeed, I'd apply that epithet to the whole movement. It's a case of the call of "songs and heroes" drowning out hard facts and basic common sense about what's best for Scotland.

In light of this revelation, may I add a new description of the FM: "creepy".
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 12:52:15
159
I care about it and think it is important that the public should be aware of what a sad we wannabe our first minister is. Hats off to the Scotsman for such an interesting and amusing story.
150

Alex,

Ellon by the Sea 07/01/2009 12:53:01
Alex Salmond is in danger of giving Scottish Governance a bad name..image a CD and a signed paper,what a bounder !..one almost pines for the halcyon days of grubby unionist backhanders,corruption and sleaze !!

Seriously though.. this whole artice stinks of the Zanu New Liebour propoganda machine.
151

G,

Bridgefoot 07/01/2009 12:53:19
#3 "This is a truly awful and highly bigotted piece of journalism. "
In what way is it bigotted??? I could just about go with biased...although that would be contentious....
Why are the SNPites so sensitive about info about the well known link betweeen slimy Salmond and the greatest living Scots tax-dodging exile....?
152

Jacqueline Hyde ,

On the shelf 07/01/2009 12:54:48
I wonder if Mr Salmond knows that Bahamian DVD players don't play UK DVDs?

Or that Connery regards himself as being above the laws that govern lesser mortals such as those that actually live in Scotland?
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 12:56:12
161
Nah, I think they should just stick with the Salmond story. It can quite happily stand alone, it doesn't need a context and provides us with an insight into the deeply troubled psyche of an over-weight fifty-something wannabe....
154

Saul Tyre,

Germany 07/01/2009 12:57:50
163 Grahamski.
Brown + Thatcher + invitation to No. 10 + nice photo etc.

Still no comments?
155

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 12:58:36
167 You bitch can we take it you're a George Clooney look-alike then ?

156

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:00:15
160 You are not very good at psyco-analysis dear, most posters are having a laugh at this pathetic attempt to undermine Salmond.
157

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:01:06
169
Ach, he's nothing but a hacket wannabe Grahamski......aye, right
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 13:04:45
#157
“elderly matinee idol with a taste for domestic violence.”

Would you care to substantiate this claim, bearing in mind the laws of slander and libel within this country?
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:05:38
#156 is fairly typical. Starts with a "whatabout" then asks "Why should Alec not correspond with Sir Sean, ffs the man has done more for the cause of independence than any other non-politician."

Nobody is saying that the Dear Leader shouldn't send fan mail to Scotland's Greatest Living Tax Exile and presumably a significant party supporter - I don't know if he's a donor.

It's just that if he uses public funds to do so, we ordinary Scots are entitled to heve the press report it, and we are entitled to find it funny and a wee bit ridiculous, and to point and laugh.

What is worrying is that on the basis of all the ire and anger shown here, the Nationalists would ban our right to know it they could, and would get the reporter punished if they could. I'm not laughing at that but I am anxious to point it out.

I must draw attention to the foaming mouthed remark of # 164 - "Seriously though.. this whole artice stinks of the Zanu New Liebour propoganda machine." And Observer says it's a "pathetic attempt to undermine Salmond!" What - the Nationalists really think a free newspaper pointing out the failings of a political boss is capable of being equated to ZANU? It's Nationalists who are attacking journalists and the free press here, nobody else!
160

Arfur,

07/01/2009 13:06:38
What truly pathetic journalism.

"First Minister sent the SNP's most prominent supporter a Sandi Thom CD and an autographed copy of the Scottish Government's white paper on independence among four letters" - "The correspondence, sent at the taxpayers' expense"

WHAT??? That must have cost the tax payer £2.50 or something.

Maddox you complete halfwit - what about the billions that the Westminster government basically threw away on the VAT idiocy which is at the tax payers expense? Why not go on about this rather than you sad pathetic little grips with the SNP. Sorry I forgot your a Labour lackey.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:09:16
172
Of course, go to youtube type in sean connery barabara walters and you'll here him talk about when it is merited to slap a woman.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:10:41
#172 - let me help. Sir Sean is elderly. He's a matinee idol.

And he is widely reported as having said that he thinks hitting women is OK, a point of view confirmed by his former wife.

He's never succeeded in shutting anyone up for saying so, and he has notably avoided public events where it was known in advance he was going to be asked about it.

I worry that the Nationalists are going to try to introduce a law to ban public criticism of notable figures.
163

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:11:17
173 Yet again you go wildly over the top with your phoney psycho-analysis ''the Nationalists would ban our right to know, and would get the reporter punished if they could''.

No one is attacking a free press we are pointing it is a pathetic article.
164

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:13:37
177 And yet again you and other posters can't resist bringing in the controversy about Connery'statement in an ad hominem attack on the SNP. I think it's your psychology which is flawed.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:13:52
#174 - excellent example of "whataboutery" - an import from NI politics where someone says "what about...." something to deflect attention from the thing they don't want discussed. Add to that a personal attack on the reporter, and you get the perfect Nationalist comment.

Have the cybernats beeen running a course?
166

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:16:04
176 ''I worry that the Nationalists are going to try and introduce a law to ban public criticism of notable figures''.

You need a psychiatrist dearie, you really really do.
167

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:16:25
#178 - how can you make an ad hominem attack on an institution? SNP non hominem est.
168

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:17:29
179 ''Have the cybernats been running a course''

Do you get courses in posting comments on a website ?

What a tube.
169

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:18:24
#180 - so now we see the Nationalists threatening to use psychiatric prisons to silence internal critics. And they accuse their political opponents routinely of acting like ZANU!
170

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:18:35
181 You tell me dearie.
171

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:19:49
183 As a parody of yourself that's not bad, it's just a shame you started off being serious.
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Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:21:01
184
I think the answer is that you can't. When you're in a hole it's usually best to stop digging. Why not just give up the ghost of trying to defend the fat wee mountebank and have a cheap laugh at his expense?
Come on in, the water's lovely!
174

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:22:40
187 I haven't defended Salmond I don't need to. Just pointing out where Fifi was talking rubbish, as is her wont.
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:25:03
#182 - Of course there's a secret course for armchair patriots in attacking reporters and newspapers that publish stories that are considered vaguely critical of Mister Salmond, or which refer to Mister Souter, Sir Sean or any of the bleary eyed gang that underpin the Nationalist enterprise. How else could we explain all the co-ordinated astroturfing that goes on here!

There will be a Pulitzer Prize for the first reporter to gain access and successfuly file a story on it.
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Scotsman in Dublin,

07/01/2009 13:27:37
#104, Grahamski. Is that it? Reality is that there is no humour in newspapers abandoning facts in favour of political propoganda.

#179, "to deflect attention from the thing they don't want discussed". Stupid comment. The reality is that if this issue is discussed it quickly is seen to be a non-issue and part of the normal running of a goverment or a business for that matter.
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Alex,

Ellon by the Sea 07/01/2009 13:28:42
173.

Fifi said

"I must draw attention to the foaming mouthed remark of # 164 - "Seriously though.. this whole artice stinks of the Zanu New Liebour propoganda machine."

Madame, nothing foam mouthed there ..but if the name fits ?

As each day passes the editorial boards anti SNP stance becomes increasingly desperate and laughably predicatable,witmess this latest tawdry attempt to slamder Salmond in their ongoing Liebour instigated campaign to undermine a democratically elected governnment ..."ZANU" ??..I was being kind missus .
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Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:29:45
There's a pleasant irony in seeing Obsever criticising me for "ad hominem" attacks when so far all she's done is to patronise me and tell me I need psychiatric help.

Obseerver doesn't know, of course, what my mental health situation is, and clearly thinks that there is something disreputable about the one in four of Scots today who have survived mental illness.
179

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:30:09
189 ''co-ordinated astrosufing'', dearie me again. You have a very vivid imagination.
180

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:33:42
192 Leave it out Fif you never miss an opportunity to hint darkly that nationalists oppose a free press. That was your signature on the Herald and it has followed you here. Your posts illustrate that vividly.
181

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:37:21
194
Nationalists successfully closed down the Herald boards with their, ahem, ad hominem attacks on Herald employees. They now seem to be continuing their nefarious practices on these boards. I think it's a reasonable point to make; the cybernats are committed to closing down any opposition to their narrow and grievance-fuelled world view.
182

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:39:29
195 You think nationalists shouldn't be able to criticise biased reporting ? As was seen on the Herald daily, and on here too ? I am not talking about this guff, this is just a laugh.
183

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:40:59
195 I think when we are called ''vermin'' a robust response should be allowed, in a free country. Don't you ?
184

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:42:33
196
They are fully entitled to whine about anything they like. However, they are not entitled to launch personal attacks or question a person's integrity just because that person doesn't happen to share their lunatic extremist views...
185

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:43:05
197
In a word: no.
186

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 13:45:22
200 You don't ? How bizarre. I can assure you if I called my customers vermin they would be most robust in response.
187

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:45:40
#191 - ZANU kills and tortures its political opponents at home. Are you saying that the Labour party does that too, or is this just tawdry political propaganda?

ZANU silences a free press for criticising the President-for-Life. The Scottish Nationalist Party foams at the mouth when a free newspaper points out, to the amusement of the lieges, that public records show that Mister Salmond has under public resources to send fan mail to his pal in foreign parts.

You described this as "slander" - I doubt that Mister Salmond is going to sue, but I wouldn't be surprised to see new "criminal defamation" laws being proposed by the Nationalist Party.

In a free country with a free press you are allowed to say rude things about the politicians running the government, and those who bankroll them. You mught think that this is essentially wrong and unpatriotic and unfair, but there you are.

As an experiment in political liberty, let me opine that Alex Salmond is an overpaid fat greasy chancer, that Mister Souter is a malign homophobic capitalist who has undermined public transport and sought to corrupt and undermine politics in our country with his wealth, and Sir Sean Connery is a tax exile hypocrite who has made it clear he approves of beating up women who dare to speak to him in a way doesn't like.

What are you and the Nationalist regime going to do about it?
188

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 13:48:18
#194 - "...you never miss an opportunity to hint darkly that nationalists oppose a free press."

Where have I ever hinted this darkly? I thought I couldn't be plainer. If the Nationalists got the chance they would introduce criminal defamation laws in a flash.
189

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 13:49:50
200
Customers? Cybernats aren't customers they are cyber vigilantes who single-handedly made the comment boards of the Herald newspaper unreadable with their moonie-like orthodoxy and long boring pompous posts or nasty snide personal attacks...anyway, let's not get bogged down with yesterday's mistakes...
190

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 14:03:06
202 Proof please of this ridiculous statement.
191

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 14:04:25
203 Tut tut we are interactive users of the website. Or used to be, it's rubbish now. Hardly anyone posts on it, not even you. Why is that ? It couldn't be you like a good argument......
192

Alex,

Ellon by the Sea 07/01/2009 14:06:35
191. Madame ,Zanu New Liebour may not torture and kill its political opponents but they certainly have roughed up a few !..remember an elderly man being manhandled for shouting "rubbish" at Jack Straw.

As regards tortue and killing well an illegal war in Iraq has certainly left blood on Liebour's hands..any comments on that ?

Free press is always to be welcomed ,however, in Scotland we have always had a democratic defecit where the unionist case, and in Scotland most notabaly Liebour's, prevails at the expense of all others...at least in Zimbabwe the opposition have official mouthpieces !

Your hotchpotch of tired Soutar and Connery jibes pale to laughability when compared to Liebour rolling out the red carpet for the Saudi King last year where his regimes record on human rights, womans rights, gay rights and workers rights are at best attrocius..any comments on that ?
193

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 14:07:20
#204 - how can you prove an opinion? The nationalist course needs to introduce a module on philosophy and rhetoric.

Actually, it had gone quiet for so long I thought that cybernat central had issued a fatwa to say that the SNP is no longer offended by this wee story and not to bother. You can't have received the message.
194

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 14:09:52
#206 - just that you need to immprove your use of the whataboutery technique.
195

Grahamski,

Falkirk 07/01/2009 14:14:55
205
Don't need to counter the repugnant views of the psychonats
196

ochone,

Sauchie, clacks 07/01/2009 14:16:31
Now as the unionist press are touting this as a story, then it stands to reason that they know who applied for the information, yet they don't tell us.

I wonder why?

Anybody out there any suggestions as to who might be desperate enough to try and make themselves look good by trying to dig some dirt on Alex Salmond and in trying to so only exposes themselves as a right tube?
197

Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 14:26:56
Fifi la Grahamski: The SNP aren't the ones who appear to control the mass media in Scotland and have massively biased reporting in their favour. The heroic cybernats on this and similar forums are doing their damndest to right a wrong that gets worse every day. Every day that passes, the pro New Liebour press gets more and more desperate and comes up with more and more ridiculous smear stories like this one to try and defame the SNP who, for all their faults are a thousand times better than Gordon Broon Troosers and his merry band of half-wits. You really should try applying your so-called analytical intelligence, (not actually real of course), to your beloved New Liebour totalitarian party and the wonderful union and see why they are so deeply flawed and why Scotland needs shot of both of them ASAP. My posts may come across as a bit of a rant, but faced with your deep seated stupidity and maliciousness, is it any wonder that I get seriously p**sed off?

Saor Alba
198

Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 14:32:12
PS Fifi la Grahamski, since when have the SNP been a lunatic fringe? Do lunatic fringe parties win by-elections ahead of your beloved Zany PF Liebour scum party? Do lunatic fringe parties control National assemblies? Do they pander to the needs and wants of the electorate? The SNP are not on the fringes any more but New Liebour are about to be chucked there in the very near future and any supporters they can retain will be seen as lunatics on the fringe. I hope you enjoy your new status, it's likely to be for the rest of your natural, Hahahahaha!
199

Alex,

Ellon by the Sea 07/01/2009 14:35:00
#206 - just that you need to immprove your use of the whataboutery technique


Guess your right..its usually met with the amnosayincosuvnaearguement technique..any tips ?
200

tommy M,

Scotland 07/01/2009 14:43:24
As "bizarre and deeply embarrassing" as Labour MP's who quit among "expenses" scandals or the numpty PM, who brought the country an dhis party to financial ruin,then selling off all the gold on the cheap?

This newspaper is bizarre and embarrassing. The failure of successive governments to set up an oil fund is bizarre and embarrassing. Wendy and Douglas Alexander are bizarre and embarrassing...

"Bring it on"
201

tommy M,

Scotland 07/01/2009 14:45:03
i wonder what Gordon Broon gave his friend Victor Blank for Christmas?
202

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 14:49:52
#210 - you are now arguing for breaching the privacy of citizens who apply for FOI information to be released. Presumably, so they can be harassed. This is the chilling effect that nationalists want to apply to citizens' rights.

You also say that using FOI is "digging the dirt." But it's true, what happened, and at first sight it's just an amusing wee story which just happens to make Mister Salmond look a bit silly.

So why are the Scottish Nationalists going so completely mad about it? The amazing over-reaction surely indicated an amazing insecurity.

Do the fat controllers at cybernat towers know something we ordinary Scots don't???
203

Darien,

Panama 07/01/2009 14:49:59
#209 Grahamski: Talking of "psychonats", your turn for the difficult British Nationalist Fundamentalist question.

British (National) and Scottish (what exactly?) ??

(its the 'what exactly' that needs defined)

Take your time. No hurry.

Fifi la London, you want to try too?
204

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 15:00:29
#212 - "Every day that passes, the pro New Liebour press gets more and more desperate and comes up with more and more ridiculous smear stories like this one to try and defame the SNP..."

How is this a "smear story?" How is it defamatory?

Why all the intense fuss about such a trivial wee tale of a middle-aged politician's love and admiration for an elderly matinee idol living far, far away? Why not just ignore it, instead of giving it all this obsessive attention?

There's got to be something really, really big underneath all the bluster and blether.

Is Alex Salmond Sir Sean's secret love child? The psychological ramifications are incredible.

We don't know yet, but let's hope the Scotsman keeps on digging.
205

The Sprucer,

07/01/2009 15:02:36

Yesterday's edition had Gordon as Gavin Brown. Hilarious! Don't ever ask for unintentional humour as you might just get it.

This paper's not worth the rash on my a***.

Saor Alba
206

Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 15:09:07
#218 Darien, I suspect that Fifi la Grahamski is seriously schizophrenic and one and the same person. I have a horrific vision of it sitting in front of its keyboard in a Union flag tutu and blonde ringlet wig, hairy, labourer's fingers banging furiously away on the keys spouting out all his/her bile to prevent people having any hope for a future prosperous Scotland. Looking at Fifi's posts makes me doubt her sanity and shows how sad and desperate the unionist/Labour supporters have become as their voter base crumbles away to dust. We all know that it is New Liebour and their bosses in the US who have been eroding our civil liberites and freedom of speech. We have little to fear from the SNP by comparison. This is a minor story, it's true but it has been attempted to be made more important by adding lines like "A spokesman for the Scottish Labour Party said Mr Salmond's behaviour was "inappropriate". He said: "This bizarre correspondence with Sean Connery is deeply, deeply embarrassing for Mr Salmond." When it is perfectly obvious that it is nothing of the kind.
Bye-bye Fifi la Grahamski, your days with a party and union to support are numbered.

Saor Alba
207

Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 15:16:21
#219 Fifi, you cross dressing sad-sack. It is a smear story because it has been blown out of proportion and has anonymous New Liebour mouthpieces adding their worthless drivel to it with no comment allowed from the SNP and there is no attempt at balancing the article with similar revelations as to the ar*e-kissing gifts handed out by the New Liebour leadership to their chums in luvvyland. As for the Scotsman digging, don't make me laugh, they don't research anything, they print what they are told to print from the party headquarters. The only thing that they are digging is a hole and burying their circulation deeper and deeper.

Saor Alba
208

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 15:24:27
#221 - "hairy, labourer's fingers banging furiously away on the keys spouting out all his/her bile to prevent people having any hope for a future prosperous Scotland. "

Duuno what your thing is about hairy hands belonging to people who do manual work, but could you explain how people conversing on a newspaper comments facility is gong to "...prevent people having any hope for a future prosperous Scotland?"

209

Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 15:33:16
Any of you Unionists have any thoughts on John McVicar's benefit fraud??

While not on a par with David Marshall's alleged fraud it still is a serious breach of trust as well as being a criminal offence.

Do you think New Labour Sleaze and Corruption politicians and activists are above the law???

Please tell.
210

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 15:35:17
Billiam Wallace # 222

The Scotsman should go digging and see what else Connery gives to Salmond, in addition to £5,000 a month, over a number of years.
211

Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 15:41:00
And for any of you Unionists who don't know who McVicar is - This from the Herald

"A board member of Scotland's largest social landlord has been forced to resign after confessing to housing benefit fraud over the course of nearly 15 years.

John McVicar, a tenant member of Glasgow Housing Association, quit the body after admitting to his fellow board members that he was under investigation for failing to declare a private pension while claiming benefit.

He has since publicly claimed to have been "diddling" for 14 years and said that he needed the money for his grandchildren.
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Mr McVicar's housing benefit has since been halted while the official probe by Glasgow City Council is conducted, leaving open the very real possibility of him falling into rent arrears and potentially facing eviction.

Housing campaigners have criticised the Labour Party activist, who was elected to the GHA board in the summer of 2005 and is vice chairman of Maryhill Local Housing Association, claiming he has overseen the evictions of tenants who have fallen behind in rent while he himself was falsely claiming benefits. He has also resigned from Maryhill Local Housing Authority."

The real stench of corruption!
212

Shave,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 15:49:59
#226 Jimmy Le Pie

Is he Sandi Thom's manager?
213

Billiam Wallace,

07/01/2009 15:50:04
#223 Fifi, you are probably only speeding people towards independence and freedom with your pro-Liebour rubbish but your intention is to keep the electorate from seeing just how bad the current government is and how low they have laid this country and its people.

We will have our freedom and you will probably feel morally compelled to naff off to England to maintain the pretence that Great Britain still exists.
214

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 15:52:16
I hope big Sean didn't send Alex a DVD of his film "Zardoz." That was a real turkey.
215

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 07/01/2009 15:53:09
Sean Connery is a national joke and a national disgrace. He considers himself the "self-appointed King of Scotland" living in luxurorious tax-exile. The man makes my stomach turn and my neighbour finally decided not to vote SNP when she received a pre-recorded cold-call on her phone from this creepy person.
216

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 15:54:14
Jack McConnell gave a great gift to Scotland in 2004. He abolished the tolls on the Skye bridge....

Hmm ... maybe this should be on the PFI thread ...

"Tolls abolished as Executive buys back bridge from private owners
• Move results in paying £50 million for a bridge costing just £15 million in 1995
• Politically significant as bridge was first private finance initiative (PFI)"
217

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 15:55:08
230

Yawn - a cold call from sir Sean. Really?
218

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 15:55:53
230

Your post also smacks of envy. Get a life.
219

Nevsky,,

Moscow 07/01/2009 15:57:02
230 Life#

But he has done more for his country than you would ever manage in 10 lifetimes.
220

Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 16:00:04
#227 Shave,

McVicar would have been too busy at the trough to manage anything other than his own interests.

David Marshall ex Glasgow East MP., might have been able to fit in a bit of management as he had a salubrious office.
221

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 16:10:52
#226 - whatabout that for an example of whataboutery. Now answer the question - is Alex Salmond Sir Sean's secret lovechild?
222

Ewan Randall,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 16:12:57
May they all receive what they deserve.
223

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 16:13:10
#225 - I didn't know that Sir Sean gives his boy £5,000 a month. Is that really true? I suppose it wouldn't be illegal if it was just maintenance.
224

Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 16:13:29
I see Comrade Darling is back-pedalling on his economic forecasts.

From The Times,

"In remarks made to the Financial Times, Mr Darling suggested that the Treasury’s most recent assessment of the economy, made at the Pre-Budget Report in November, may have been overly optimistic and might need to be revised at the spring budget."

The whole New Labour Sleaze and Corruption party are rotten to the core and should call an election before the receivers are called in!!
225

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:15:35
Pound up to €1.11311
226

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 16:17:04
#228 - I don't understand how me asking why the Nationalists are so upset about this story amounts to "keeping the electorate from seeing just how bad the current government is and how low they have laid this country and its people."

I think the Scottish people can see fine just how bad Mister Salmond's government is, and how low they have laid this country and its people.

But this story is just about the love between these two men, separated by a huge blue ocean, and the gifts they give each other.
227

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:23:44
What has this joker Connery done for Scotland? Nothing.

All he will do this year is make a short appearance as part of the ridiculous "Homecoming" and they fly off into his tax free sunset in his prvate jet.

If he cared a jot for Scotland he would live here and pay taxes here. He is just a selfish tax avoiding so-and-so.
228

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:32:18
242

Green with envy. Get over it. Move on.

BTW - the "ridiculous" homecoming was the idea of the previous executive. I take it you're anti- Scottish?
229

Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 07/01/2009 16:42:01
The Scotsman - The Official Press Release Partner for Nulabour in Scotland.

A spokesman for Nulabour commented, er was the spokesman David Maddox
230

Nevsky,,

Moscow 07/01/2009 16:42:43
242#

Afraid not, Connery has always paid tax in this country..i take it you have no idea what you are talking about in that case?

He also has charitable foundations in Scotland and promotes Scotland whenever he can...for free as far as i am aware.

So what have you done? Nothing i am guessing!

231

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:44:57
#244 Get over it yourself - you have as much chance of winning a referendum on Scottish independence in 2010 as the pro Euro group has of persuading the UK population to vote yes to that currency. ie. ZERO. You know it, we all know it.

Ps. I am Scottish so unlikely to be anti-Scottish (unless judged by a bigot)
232

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:46:30
#246 You believe all his press releases and everything you read in the papers! How sweet. Now dry the wetness behind your new-born naive ears.
233

Queen D,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 16:49:55
So who took the time ,money and trouble to use the freedom of info act to secure this useless information?
My money is on the loveable old lord!
Anyone think otherwise?
Do you know that insulting insinuations on websites can be used in libel cases??
234

Lumpy Dan,

Partick 07/01/2009 16:51:07
242 "What has this joker Connery done for Scotland? Nothing."

Well apart from raising Scotland's international profile, being a tremendous ambassador for all things Scottish,raising thousands for charities in Scotland and getting up unionists noses you will need to ask the unionists themselves....I seem to remember them falling over themselves to kiss his feet during the last referendum campaign... then blocking his knighthood .

As regars his tax exile status perhaps you could ask the same question of Liebour apologist and Luvey Brian Cox why he is also exiled ..between voicing over Liebour's PPBs...pot, kettle ,black ?
235

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:51:18
It's the half life

Who mentioned referendum? If Connery were a labour supporter like Connolly you'd be creaming yer pants.
236

It's life but not as we know it,

The Oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:52:19
#249 Then you better hope "the lord" isn't reading this thread. Otherwise, go and take a walk and spare us your brilliance.
237

It's life but not as we know it,

The oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:55:20
Scotland. The year is 2015. Alex Salmond now long forgotten and just a sad and bitter old man walking the sand dunes that his other great chum, Trump ran out of money and thanfully couldn't destroy. The UK is still the UK as the SNP went down to inglorious defeat in the referendum in 2010. Face it.
238

It's life but not as we know it,

The oort Clouds 07/01/2009 16:55:22
Scotland. The year is 2015. Alex Salmond now long forgotten and just a sad and bitter old man walking the sand dunes that his other great chum, Trump ran out of money and thanfully couldn't destroy. The UK is still the UK as the SNP went down to inglorious defeat in the referendum in 2010. Face it.
239

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:55:33
LIFEBOY

"In a rare interview with Scotland's Herald newspaper, the actor – most famous for his James Bond roles – handed over evidence from his lawyers to show that, despite living in the Bahamas, he had paid more than £3.7m in tax to the UK Treasury since 1997, considerably more than the majority of his critics.

In addition, his lawyers said, he had "been either personally responsible for or a major participant in a vast amount of motion picture production in the UK over that time span, which has brought literally millions and millions of pounds of capital into the country, employed hundreds if not thousands of individuals in those films and generated substantial additional tax for the UK Inland Revenue".

In other words - 37OHSSV O773H
240

Nevsky,,

Moscow 07/01/2009 16:55:39
248 Life#

I think it's you who should check your facts before posting..otherwise it looks like you are just spouting rubbish...which you are!

So back to the drawing board and try again and try not to look like a fool this time!



241

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:58:25
254

I read it the first time. It was rubbish then and it's rubbish now.

¡AVANTI!
242

Alan Reid,

Wellington 07/01/2009 16:58:28
51 Grahamski,Falkirk: Did you bother to read my post. Or do you hate the idea of Scotland running it's own affairs that you will attack anything that will threaten the Union.
Fact: The size, weight, appearance of Salmond has NOTHING to do with the way he does his job.
He and the SNP are the ONLY party which are fighting against Westminster, but beening an Englishman and knowing that without Scotland, England is f”cked your desparate to kept Scotland within the Union and under heel so it can be asset stripped. You are a sc@mbag
243

Hugh Roscombe,

07/01/2009 16:59:58
tinyurl.com/7er5wr
244

Economic Exile,

Perth, Western Australia 07/01/2009 17:06:14

#75 & #134 "who is Sandi Thom ?"

Don't know but I once knew a cop in Leith who lifted a Tom called Sandy.....
245

Alan Reid,

Aberdeen 07/01/2009 17:07:16
241 Fifi la Bonbon,

"I think the Scottish people can see fine just how bad Mister Salmond's government is, and how low they have laid this country and its people"

You want to expand on that, in what way that the SNP and Slamond have let the Scottish people down?

Can you also explain why Scotland is in such a bad state, after three hundred years of the “best Union the world has seen”

A clue:
http://www.scottishpolitics.org/scotching/greatdeception.html

There's lots more where this can from.
246

Mìcheal a Eilean Rùim,

Richmond 07/01/2009 17:17:23
Having read all the above, I can only conclude that the Scottish Cringe is alive and well, along with the mì-rùn mòr nan Gall and a complement of whining semi-literate bedwetters who make it clear why Scotland will remain an English province controlled by Westminster.




247

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 17:24:31
#258 - "Fact: The size, weight, appearance of Salmond has NOTHING to do with the way he does his job." That at least is something we can all agree upon. My only problem with him is that he sees his job as fighting Westminster instead of running the government in line with the Scotland Act.

Why are people so obsessed with trivialities? This is just a gentle, fun story about a man and his fan. Yet the Nationalist propaganda machine is in top gear about it.

There is surely a bigger story here we've yet to read about.
248

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 17:42:56
217 '' you are now arguing for breaching the privacy of citizens who apply for FOI information to be released. Presumably so they can be harrassed. This is the chilling effect that nationalists want to apply to citizens rights''

Rubbish and paranoid nonsense all in keeping with your twisted and nauseating pathalogical obsession with nationalism.

In my view Poster 110 was making a humorous comment hinting it might have been the serial FOI requester and Parliamentry questioner Foulkes who asked the question, not threatening anyone.

I think you owe him an apology Fifi.
249

Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 17:45:31
BTW there are a lot of other threads on more serious stories so why are you lingering about here like a bad smell, Ms Bon Bon.
250

Anonym,

07/01/2009 17:47:45
Aye, Fifi, all so trivial, yet you've been blethering on about it. How many posts now?

Perhaps you should give up the amateur psychoanalysis, lest someone suggest it is actually you who is taking this too seriously.

I'd call it obsessive compulsive disorder, but then I'd be a hypocrite.

251

brownlie,

07/01/2009 17:54:22
Fifi,

If it is so trivial, gentle and fun why was public money wasted under the FOI Act to find this out and why is the Scotsman's Political Correspondent covering it instead of one of the office juniors?
252

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 18:01:59
#264, #265, #266, and #267 - because I can.
253

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:06:40
Fifi la Bonbon # 238

Under normal circumstances you would only give someone £5,000 a month if they were a blackmailer. Maybe Salmond knows more about the worlds most famous milkman than he has, so far, let on?
254

Beachcomber,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 18:08:46
Fifi I was told you are really Fat Jackie, apparently your not shy of a fish supper - or 6
255

Fifi la Bonbon,

07/01/2009 18:12:55
#270 - it doesn't have to be blackmail - it could just be aliment. It would be a great story, though - "Zardoz star in pompous politician paternity probe!"
256

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:17:09
Fifi la Bonbon # 241

They Natz here are upset about this lovefest thing between Salmond and Connery getting out because they don't believe that it is innocent. Why would one guy send another guy an album of a certain singer unless there was some kind of secret message involved? A lot of actors are gay and get married to stop the truth from surfacing. Doesn't make them bad actors though. The big milky only made one good movie in my book, I liked The Presidio. But, let's face it Connery only plays himself in any of his films, that is probably what Salmond likes about him, that "au naturel," tough guy stuff, it's an attraction of opposites!
Salmond is definitely not a tough guy, he looks like an overgrown baby dressed up in a big suit that he will grow into.

257

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:23:10
Lumpy Dan # 250

Connery is the only advocate for Scotland I have ever seen who describes the most suitable circumstances for giving a woman a slap on TV.
Maybe someone we know needed some advice on domestic discipline...? Here Sean, a little thank you!
258

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:28:25
Queen D # 249

Whatever it cost, it is worth every penny to see the Natz greetin' here about how unfair life is that their icon, their hero, their messiah is just a little sweetheart with a fond spot for this particular, big milkman.
259

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:31:52
Southside Jimmy # 275

And you are...?
What is wrong with you, are you so cynical that you disdain blossoming love, even if the protagonists are somewhat, hill and over...?
260

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:41:10
Sooside Jummy # 278

Show us all how to to do it then... You impresario you.

Do you wear your coat draped about your shoulders, like some famous acteur? Just wondered Jummy.
261

Stan Butler,

07/01/2009 18:42:13


"There are women who take it to the wire. That's what they are looking for, the ultimate confrontation. They want a smack."

262

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 18:56:21
Sooside Jummy # 281

Unlike you, I am not an "alkie."
I bet you used to drink in the "Tron Bar" and have a load of "mars bars" on your face. Have you checked YOUR trousers lately for dribbling, charity begins at home, you know?
Salmond thanks you for your support in this, his latest trouble.
263

Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 19:02:13
Nevsky # 246

Why would a no-dom pay tax in the UK? Ah, altruism!
Kind of defeats the purpose of living in the Bahamas as a tax exile though. Your little platitude does not scan, try again!
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W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 07/01/2009 19:27:29
Definition of "sycophant" - "fawning parasite".
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 19:44:29
Union is Best # 286

I think that WUM @ 285 has a point. It is not your best friend that takes £5,000 a month from you for an obscure album and a political wish-list.
If you had any friends would you milk them on a monthly basis, for loads of dosh, like a sort of parasite?
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 19:54:21
# 288

The SNP support can't cope so they resort to fake posts. Salmond's supporters are cowards who resort to smears when the discussion goes against them.
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 20:01:07
# 291

The worst known child abuser in Scottish history was Thomas Hamilton, Freemason, 13 march 1996, Dunblane.

Attempts by SNP supporters to detract from the story above by resorting to stories about child abuse shames the SNP and Scotland. Poor show Union is Best, you belong in the gutter with your leader who condones your scurillous tactics.
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bully wee alba,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 20:03:18
In reality Brown is toast.
He will not fight the next election as the leader of the Labourtories.
He will merely merge into the background as a barely remembered non entity oafish clown totally out of his depth.

You heard it here first
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:12:25
What a hoot. The Scotsman doesn't even realise that it is taking the peeeeee by satyrising Labour sleeze over a maximum postage charge at the taxpayers' expense and all hell breaks loose in the posts.

Then, when I fast forward, oh yes is woofing on about child abuse.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:14:02
Approx £8 to post the items.

Now discuss that.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 20:15:52
#301/2 Churchill W

Are you a bowler hatted, Butcher's Apron wearing knuckle dragger???

You certainly come across as one.
There is help available.

It worked for Ian Paisley who became best friends with Martin McGuinness and Gerry Adams.

The key is education but I won't hold my breath!!
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 20:16:21
The above is a denial of service attack on this site sponsored by sectarian elements in the SNP. Sectarianism is the unspoken subtext in all SNP communication.
Sectarianism is the reason that all independence referendums will fail in Scotland. Scotland is a sectarian country and the SNP does not have the moral fibre to stop it because the leadership is cowardly.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 20:19:15
Sectarian ? You're weird Churchill, very weird.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 20:20:05
Pope Churchill

Will you leave the UK when the Act of Settlement is repealed???
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 20:22:08
315 - like Bill Hicks do you ? Me too. Aye, why doesn't God just stop the bullets.
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 20:25:39
Jimmy Le Pie # 312

To which "Churchill W" is your question referred?
All of the sectarian posts were made within a period of around 14 minutes. This is prepared and contrived by sectarian SNP supporters. These people shame Scotland and will until they are exposed by the SNP leadership and expelled from the SNP. But, Salmond will not do that as he is both afraid of them and in their debt.

Salmond is a man with no moral spine, he allows racists and sectarian elements to rule his agenda. While he is so vacillating there will be no success in his putative independence referendum, ever. Scotland is not Germany in 1934 as a lot of Salmond's extremist supporters seem to believe.
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Florence,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 20:25:59
117 DARIEN: I may be wrong, but I don't think he actually graduated.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caldonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:31:34
This is the story about Alex Salmond and Sean Connery isn't it?

What the hell is yon noddy dug on about?
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 20:33:12
Pope Churchill

I know what you're about.

You are gay and are frightened to admit it.

Lots of Orangemen are closet woofters.

Come out of your closet and tell the world you're gay!

We all guessed you were :)
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:38:31
Extra (hidden) space in the Churchill fake.

I've reported it.
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Observer,,

Glasgow 07/01/2009 20:41:29
333 Please don't bother, thanks.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:42:45
333. May the fertiliser of your Mum go with you.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 20:42:54
#331 Pope Churchill

There, that wasn't hard, was it.

Now you're beginning to come to terms with your sexuality.

The rest will follow easily.

After a few months, with a bit of luck, we might even have you talking sense.
I know it's a big step for someone in your condition but you've started on the steep slope.

All our prayers are with you and your boyfriend.
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Churchill W.,

07/01/2009 20:46:17
Scottish independence will never happen. Loyalist terrorists in Northern Ireland will make sure of that. I am sure that Salmond has been told that it would create a very bad precedent for Northern Ireland
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 20:54:59
Mind and not step in your litter tray, oh yes @337. You need to put your mouth in it.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 20:56:44
337
Aye just like they did in NI??

What is the RUC now called????
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 07/01/2009 21:00:11
Hmmmm? Is afterthought not wonderfull?

338 should be: Mind and not back into your litter tray, on yes @337, you need to put your mouth in it.
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Jimmy Le Pie,

07/01/2009 21:08:06
Back to the real world.

I see from the Telegraph, that Comrade Broon's sale of our gold cost £5 billion. Just shows what a clown he is.
That money could have built a bridge over the Forth!!!

http://tinyurl.com/6tr927
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Robert Burns,

Ocean Beach (San Diego), California, U.S.A. 07/01/2009 21:10:06
I applaud 1st Minister Salmond on this. Though I hope the tax shelter situation is an activism aimed at the U.K. and not Scotland, James Bond himself is presidential or prime minister material and a worthy focus of the inexpensive attention well spent by Mr. Salmond. Labour needs to work towards birth, not miscarriage or at least start worrying about the Greater Depression in which we have been subjected.
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Florence,

Edinburgh 07/01/2009 21:11:40
242 IT'S LIFE: Have a look at comment No. 36 re tax avoidance.
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Nevsky,,

Moscow 07/01/2009 21:55:23
What is interesting is that Maddox on the fast runningout of puff Steamie waxes lyrical about a Christmas card he receieved from Lord George Foulkes-all.

Now knowing the English love a bit of name dropping and how Maddox (more than most) relates every meal he has in Westminster (being such an important journalist)and everyone with a title he meets...i wonder who paid for Lord George's cards?

Perhaps David could do a bit of investigation into this matter..just why should MPs send cards to journalists at the public expense?
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truthsleuth,

08/01/2009 00:38:20
Sean Connery
Just how much does he pay towards the Scotland he supposedly loves.



AS shows what an ASS he is by giving Connery publicity - or is it the other way round
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Billiam Wallace,

08/01/2009 01:11:37
Yet more evidence of the jealousy and ill-will that success and popularity engender in the hearts of the British. Only in Britain would we decry someone for being as successful as Sean Connery. Billy Connelly is similarly despised by some for his obvious success. No wonder successful people want to live elsewhere, they are fed up with the sniping from sad inadequates who will never amount to much in this life.

I trust that a free Scotland will be more welcoming of those among us who can excel.

Saor Alba
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Alan Reid,

Wellington 08/01/2009 01:57:38
To all you Unionist tw@ts out there.
Again this is from his website, please read it and then comment. Try not to let the hatred of the SNP cloud your view.
But I feel maybe you’re all a bit dim for that, eh truthsleuth, Churchill W., It's life but not as we know it, Grahamski, Fifi la Bonbon, Rufus-T-Firefly AM, Media 1 etc ????

Maybe you can PROVE he does not give money to the UK government? Go ahead prove it.


http://www.seanconnery.com/patronage/

Sean Connery believes in helping others.
He has donated to and supported literally hundreds of charities. One little known fact about Sir Sean's philanthropy is that he donated his entire salary (well over $1 million) from his Bond film Diamonds Are Forever to the Scottish International Educational Trust which he co-founded. This generous grant — like his many other gifts — has benefited the lives of thousand of ordinary Scots. While not all of the many worthy charities he supports are mentioned on this site, Sir Sean would like you to consider helping others as he has.




"I hope you are enjoying my website. While you are here, I would ask that you take a few moments to consider helping someone else. I will continue to develop this non-commercial website and provide to you electronic greeting cards, wallpapers, and insider information about my career. But I would like you to do something for me in return — I would request that you help me to help others. The charities listed below encompass three areas that are very important to me: education, culture, and Scotland."



Please take a few moments of your time and support these wonderful organizations:






The Scottish International Educational Trust
22 Manor Place
Edinburgh EH3 7DS
Scotland

UK Tax exempt No: SC009207

The Scottish International Educational Trust (SIET) has funded millions of dollars for scholarships to young Scots and Scottish institutions. Your help is needed to continue the
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Alan Reid,

Wellington 08/01/2009 01:59:01
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The Scottish International Educational Trust
22 Manor Place
Edinburgh EH3 7DS
Scotland

UK Tax exempt No: SC009207

The Scottish International Educational Trust (SIET) has funded millions of dollars for scholarships to young Scots and Scottish institutions. Your help is needed to continue the work of helping students and educational institutions in Scotland. The SIET helps talented and worthy individuals who need help to achieve their educational objectives.
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Friends of Scotland
19830 Via Escuela
Saratoga, CA 95070

Tax ID Number: 32-0006211

This US charity, Friends of Scotland, was formed, "… to create, stimulate, and sustain an interest in Scotland and its history, traditions, and culture; to bring together people of Scottish heritage; to promote goodwill and understanding about Scotland among the general public; and to perform charitable works…" Sir Sean serves as the Friends of Scotland's Honorary Chairman.

All donations are greatly appreciated; however, for donations of $500 dollars or more, Sir Sean will send you a personalized signed letter of thanks.

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Alan Reid,

NZ 13/01/2009 01:10:50
322, For a start I don't feel very important, and really I have to admit i'm not.
However that is not the point, the point is you fool, that SC pays TAX to the UK, get it?? Or are you that thick.
You say "They seem to think they should pick and choose who and what they help"
Eh yeah....! it's his money f@ckwit, he can help anyone he likes to.

Read the following and just admit you're WRONG!

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_20030307/ai_n12676444

Sean Connery hits back at critics by flaunting his pounds 4.6m tax
Independent, The (London), Mar 7, 2003 by Paul Kelbie
E-mail Print Link ONE OF the most high-profile living Scotsmen has launched a pre- emptive strike on critics who scorn his right to support political independence for a country he no longer lives in.

The actor Sean Connery, a staunch supporter of the Scottish National Party (SNP), has revealed how much tax he has paid to the Treasury in the past five years in an effort to stifle criticism of his support for nationalists during the forthcoming Holyrood elections.

Opponents of the SNP, responding to the well-publicised support from such a celebrity, have repeatedly sniped at the star's tax- exile status in the Bahamas - and before that in Marbella - claiming it undermined his commitment to the nationalist cause and made him a "false friend of Scotland".

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Competition, Not Economic Downturn, Driving Major Changes For High-Tech Companies However, with a campaign for Scottish Parliament elections beginning in the next few weeks, Sir Sean, 72, who once worked as a milkman in Edinburgh, is aware that his decision to live abroad will come under fresh scrutiny.

"I get battered with this living in Marbella, living in the Bahamas, whatever," the actor said at his Bahamas home in Lyford Cay. "I'm
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"I get battered with this living in Marbella, living in the Bahamas, whatever," the actor said at his Bahamas home in Lyford Cay. "I'm an easy target because of my political opinions but I defy anyone in Scotland to find one detail where I knowingly ever did anything that was to the detriment of Scotland. It gets up my nose."

In a rare interview with Scotland's Herald newspaper, the actor - most famous for his James Bond roles - handed over evidence from his lawyers to show that, despite living in the Bahamas, he had paid more than pounds 4.6m in tax to the UK Treasury since 1997, considerably more than the majority of his critics.

In addition, his lawyers said, he had "been either personally responsible for or a major participant in a vast amount of motion picture production in the UK over that time span, which has brought literally millions and millions of pounds of capital into the country, employed hundreds if not thousands of individuals in those films and generated substantial additional tax for the UK Inland Revenue".

Sir Sean said: "Everything I've got is tax paid. I don't have any blind trusts. And I hope this erases some of the cynicism about my financial affairs."

The actor, who regularly earns millions of pounds for his film roles, said: "I pay full tax wherever I am working. That's the way it works in the film industry. Since I've gone out of my way to bring film projects to the UK, instead of Hollywood, that's meant I've paid full tax here."

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Alan Reid,

NZ 13/01/2009 01:12:47
322, Enough for you p r i c k!
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