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In 1861 One o'Clock Gun failed to fire.. in 2007, guess what?

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Published Date:
02 June 2007
IT was almost too perfect a recreation of history.
Hundreds of people had turned out to see the original One o'Clock Gun "fired" for the first time in almost 150 years.

But with the crowds gathering on the ramparts at Edinburgh Castle, the mock firing of the historic "18 pounder" cannon had to be called off at the last minute.

The events echoed those of the first planned firing of the One o'Clock Gun in 1861 when the cannon also failed to go off.

But this time it was technical difficulties of a very different kind that kept the gun silent - health and safety regulations.

The organisers were forced to disappoint more than 500 people after Historic Scotland officials told them they couldn't wheel the gun into place without a full risk assessment certificate.

With less than an hour before the big moment - due to have been achieved with pyrotechnics, like the mock firing of Mons Meg on Hogmanay - everything had to be called off.

The problem lay with the plan to move the old cannon the short distance from Mills Mount Battery to the Half Moon Battery, where it was originally fired from.

The Half Moon Battery also overlooks Leith and yesterday's firing had been organised to mark the start of this year's Leith Festival.

Among the spectators that had assembled was Eddie McCarthy, who held the post as district gunner from 1968-72.

Pipers had also gathered to play in the run-up to the firing, while groups of Polish dancers who are taking part in the Leith Festival also performed.

Stuart Wilson, a member of the One o'Clock Gun Association, said he was disappointed it didn't go ahead. He said: "To move it back would have required a full risk assessment and Historic Scotland hadn't been informed about it so they wouldn't allow it.

"The pyrotechnics were there - the same guys had come over that do pyrotechnics for Mons Meg - so everything was in place.

"It was pretty disappointing that it didn't go ahead but the preparations were pretty rushed. We'll have a lot longer to prepare for next year so we'll go back to the drawing board and plan for that."

The event was to renew links between Leith and the famous one o'clock time signal, which was first established as a signal for sailors on the Firth of Forth, and was donated by the Royal Artillery in Scotland, based at Leith Fort.

On June 5, 1861, more than 300 spectators turned up at the city observatory to see the gun's inauguration. But it failed to fire because of technical problems with the clock connected to it.

Mr Wilson, who is also a volunteer for Leith Festival, admitted it was ironic that it echoed the "damp squib" event when the gun was first set up.

A Historic Scotland spokesperson said: "Unfortunately the replica firing was not permitted to go ahead as a compulsory risk assessment had not been carried out in advance of the event.

"The health and safety of our visitors and staff is always our primary concern."

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  • Last Updated: 05 June 2007 7:18 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Edinburgh Castle
 
1

Mallory,

02/06/2007 11:32:50

Funny how health and safety folks don't go over to Irfaq to make sure that our lads and lasses arn't being exposed to too much danger.

Seriously why on earth didn't Historic Scotlkand check this out before hand?

2

Elginloon,

elgin 02/06/2007 11:35:39

Historic Scotland - the same clots who demand risk assessments from the resident battalion in Fort George - a working Army base as well as a monument!

3

alex paterson,

embra 02/06/2007 11:55:21

This is hard lines,Hopefully somebody will be fired for this stupidity.

4

Suzi B,

02/06/2007 12:04:15

#3. I hope your comment was meant as a joke because the mental image of a Historic Scotland official being loaded into the cannon as punishment gave me a giggle!

5

Ron Ross,

Toronto 02/06/2007 13:47:22

The organizers did a low-caliber job in planning for this event.

They breeched the safety rules.

6

Barry.,

02/06/2007 14:34:25

Isn't health and safety rather at odds with much of what what our armed forces do, this being the reason we admired them so much?

I think I'd trust them to move a gun. After all, it's what they're good at.

7

Jim A,

02/06/2007 15:14:16

#7 Barry. The Armed Forces used to have immunity from health and safety regulations along with enviromental health. They lost this immunity in the early 90's (think it was 91/92). Saying that though the regulations are waived if a unit is on operations. Before 91/92 the Royal Army Medical Corps who were a bit more understanding of military ways used to handle military health and safety.

8

Masque,

02/06/2007 16:02:03

Health and Safety just go way too overboard sometimes. I hope an "official" does get jettisoned for this debacle!

9

livilion,

livingston 02/06/2007 18:21:42

I wonder about the quality of military personel we are producing when they are forbidden to move a gun never mind fire it.

These are the same people that'll have to be protected from dangers of the bagpipes?

I'm waiting for the Health and Safety Exec to ban the army from using knives, guns or explosives when entering into a fight until all of the necessary paperwork, risk assessments and personal protective equipment have been put in place.

Some of these guns are highly dangerous, you could damage hearing or have somebody's eye out.

I don't hear anything about the unsanitary conditions our military are exposed to when facing the enemy on active operations.

These can be just as unhealthy as the noises these weapons produce for goodness sake.

Women sueing the army because they got pregnant, next it'll be for getting them shot at.

10

Jim A,

02/06/2007 19:14:35

#10 Livilion, The Armed Forces up until around 1991/92 had crown immunity from the enviromental health and safety laws. The laws are waived for training and for operations that requires handling ammunition, explosives etc. You said "Women sueing the army because they got pregnant, next it'll be for getting them shot at." Has that happened? I've never heard of a case before, during or after my service.

11

Steve Phillips,

A safety dept somewhere in Australia 02/06/2007 23:01:06

In all societies we have potencial monsters who find some outlet to their perverted needs. In nazi Germany there was the Gestapo, in in Russia the KGB and NKVD and now with those excesses denied them in civilised UK and Oz we get the Health and Safety Nazi.
Jumped up little Hitlers one and all.

12

livilion,

livingston 02/06/2007 23:43:38

11. Jim A
1991 PREGNANCY DISMISSAL IN THE MILITARY
R v Secretary of State ex parte Leale and Lane

In judicial review proceedings brought by the EOC on behalf of Mrs Leale and Mrs Lane, the Divisional Court held that the policy of the Army and RAF of discharging servicewomen because of pregnancy was contrary to European sex discrimination law.

As a consequence, the MOD agreed to compensate all servicewomen discharged because of their pregnancy since August 1978, the date by which the UK had been required to amend domestic law in line with European law.

The MOD changed its policy of dismissal and introduced rights to maternity leave
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199697/cmhansr....

If I remember correctly these women (360?) were awarded something like £100,000 each.

Which was nice.

13

Jim A,

03/06/2007 00:41:10

#13 Livilion, Cheers mate, I didn't know that. Like I said I never came across it in my time. Saying that we didn't have any females in our unit.

14

Boy Wonder,

03/06/2007 08:33:27

Widnae huv happened wi dear auld Tam the Gun RIP!!!

15

robbie A,

LONGSTONE 03/06/2007 14:18:44

THE ONE A CLOCK GUN IS A TRADITION . ITS A SHAME

16

Meredith Baxter,

03/06/2007 17:01:42

Health & Safety fascists rule again. Jobsworths who want to kill all pleasure in life, because that's so much more important than actually having an enjoyable life to live. Sack the lot of them!

17

TOPHER,

Edinburgh 03/06/2007 19:14:54

I was actually present at the Half Moon Battery when these events took place at the Castle, I have to side with Historic Scotland regarding the Health and safety issues that were raised. Unfortunately Historic Scotland were not made aware of the full implications of trying to load the Gun, this would have meant the Gun being drawn back from the Gun port to be loaded and it would have also had to remian in that position to ensure no debris from the charge would shower the members of public below. I ca assure you, that all the staff present from Historic Scotland tried all they could to let the Gun fire. And No ... I dont work the castle or any Local Government concern. The Leith festival commitee, will ensure that next year, the correct procedures will be followed and Gun should FIRE.

18

Alberta,

calgary canada 03/06/2007 21:28:31

As a 4yr old I toddled up to Castle Hill for the 1'0clock gun... From what I read hear. too many Scottish Traditions are being flushed down the toilet,and too many idiots making the changes..Rabbie Burns. William Wallace. Robert The Bruce, and yes Bonnie Prince Charlie,and Mary Queen of Scots are turning over in their graves (with or without their heads)
Pregnant women topic. ?????????Why on earth would the Gov't be so stupid as to pay 100.000 pounds to women who became pregnant ..I note the 2 mentioned were MRS.. Im roflol does the Army have a secret weapon used to getting women pregnant..Either the women were'nt too bright, or the gov't is'nt..Next thing, The Haggis, will be banned.. The sheep will sueing the butcher for stealing their stomachs. Heaven help us............Margaret

19

Kevin Edinburgh,

04/06/2007 08:36:05

Could it not have been 'fired' where it currently stands?
http://www.go360edinburgh.co.uk/index.htm?nodeChoice=Edin...

20

Xenophobic,

Meadowbank 04/06/2007 08:54:20

Wow! I am overcome by the very interesting story..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


 

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