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1

eric,

12/11/2006 08:43:42

Let him out early eh!

2

CapitalKid,

Edinburgh 12/11/2006 08:43:54

Whatever else he was or may have been, Bothwell remains an important figure in Scottish history. His remains should be repatriated and buried in his ancestral lands ... then forget about him if you prefer.

3

Mikey,

12/11/2006 09:19:01

I agree with no. 3. He was a self seeking would be tyrant, but no more or less than the other lords of his time. He does, however, remain a an important figure in Scottish history and should be repatriated.

4

donald,

weegieland 12/11/2006 09:45:49

Bring the boady back and leave McConnell in an Independent Denmark, till he notices whit is goin' on roon aboot him.

5

'Suck' McCrunchie,

12/11/2006 11:59:31

Unless I am mistaken - even now, when someone dies on holiday, it is the responsibility of the said persons family or estate to return the body.

Often there is a cremation to reduce the repatriation costs.

So realistically here, its whether the Hepburns wish to pay for a box or a package, as no one else would have the costs covered.

The benefit derived from his body being here is far lower than the benefot that could be derived from another use of public money.

6

Robert,

Kirriemuir 12/11/2006 12:46:47

Well said, McCrunchie; if his descendants wish to do this at their expense well done for them but certainly not at public expense; indeed, other than his descendants there would be few other Scots interested!

7

eric,

12/11/2006 13:14:37

Maybe we should swap him for jack ,We would get more interest in a stiff.

8

mr chips,

scotland open prison 12/11/2006 16:41:46

Jackass will look at this, as a chance for another junket, before he is de throned in may.
Do you think if we ask nicely, the king of denmark will keep jack in the same room as james hepburn,
with no early release.

9

Edward,

12/11/2006 19:24:33

What did Bothwell ever do for Scotland?
Was he a hero? No
Did he better the life of Scots in Scotland at the time prior to his demise? NO
So why on earth should the Scottish Executive get involved in this, apart from a free junket for Jacky boy McC.
Let the Buchan Heburns pay for the return of the body and dont waste tax payers money!

10

mr chips,

12/11/2006 20:29:55

11. Edward /hear,hear.

11

Eve,

Scotland 12/11/2006 20:43:30

#5. donald: Unfortuntly theres a problem with leaving Jack McConnell in Denmark. (He'll never relaise whats going on round about him, it's sad but looks like in Jacks case it might be true). Also He possily wound understand Danish.

(it's a wee shame for the wee man)

12

Great Scott.,

Canada 17/11/2006 18:07:46

I feel sad when I read the vapid anti-Upper Classes and anti-Royalist posts.The comments are supposedly fuelled by 'what did they do for Scotland attitude ?'That attitude fails to understand who and what made Britain. The accusation that 'the Nobility 'is the cause of all the ills Britain faces now,is not supported by history and is not accurate.
The present cash for peerages debacle is just a repeat of what happened when Henry VIII decided to break with Rome.Vast swathes of land.Manors,Monastaries, were up for grabs and who did Henry decide to sell it to."The New Men' and who were the 'New Men?',grocers,butchers,merchants,lawyers.
William Cecil himself said 'Ancient Nobility'was nothing but 'Ancient Riches,' and he and his 'New Men" went about aquiring a bank account for the elevation to the Nobility that they despised so much:the Peerage.!
It was the "New Men' that threw the common people off the land,fenced it,and caused thousands of poor to migrate to London where they formed the slums of the Southern Banks of the Thames.
Prior to this the poor were fed by Monastries,Manor Houses and one Earl fed 2,000 people a month on his estate.
The evidence points to the "New Class of New Men", drawn from the educated classes as being the most mercenary people to rule England and Scotland,and in fact they are still doing it.Diverting the attention from accurate history under a cloak of hostility to Nobility while they line up to get their honours,and fat salaries.All at the expense of the 'Common People 'they profess to love.
As far as the Earl of Bothwell is concerned no man should be left to moulder in a foreign country.Exercise some of the compassion that I know great Scots are capable off.

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alice_copeland_brown,

Fascinating: looks like our species is the same re 18/06/2008 14:55:11
Gore Vidal has said that we in the U.S. have only 1 party: the Business party with 2 branches, one that pretends to be humanitarian. 3rd Parties don't have a prayer. The corporations bribe the members of Congress with 'campaign contributions', so we no longer have a democratic republic...we have an oligarchy where the 'people' represented are the CEOs. When Rep. Kucinich, a brave man, stands up in Congress and reads out the 35 Articles of Impeachment for our Mass Murderer, who Stole the Presidency, he is given no support except from we the people. The rest are in on the conspiracy to feed us politics as usual, until the 'American Empire' moulders in the grave.

Looks like you Scots have something not quite as noxious, but similar in that most of the governing classes are asses.

 

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