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"MY OWN position on abortion, which I believe must be an issue of conscience for members of Parliament, is that I would probably vote to tighten the time limit in accordance with recent advances in medical science.
"The issue should be kept well away from party politics, and party instruction."

Alex Salmond, First Minister

"We are killing, in our country, the equivalent of a classroom of kids every day. Can you imagine that? Two Dunblane massac
res a day in our country.

"I ask them [Catholic politicians] to examine their consciences and discern if they are playing any part in sustaining this social evil. I remind them to avoid co-operating in the unspeakable crime of abortion and the barrier such co-operation erects to receiving Holy Communion."

Cardinal Keith O'Brien, leader of the Catholic Church in Scotland

"The medical ethics committee considers access to first-trimester abortions should be available on an informed-consent basis as with other medical procedures. Removing the current conditions will remove the legislative and administrative burdens created by the act that, in reality, do not stop women seeking abortion, but potentially expose women to delays and more costly and higher-risk procedures."

The British Medical Association ethics commission

"While overall responsibility for the NHS in Scotland lies with Holyrood, abortion, human fertilisation and embryology are reserved to Westminster.

"There is a danger that, besides having no constitutional role, Scotland will be left out of the debate."

John Haldane, professor of philosophy at St Andrews University

"I would be quite happy to support the call for a proper inquiry - I think parliament would be open-minded."

Sir David Steel, who introduced the original 1967 Abortion Act on calls for an examination of time limits



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  • Last Updated: 24 October 2007 8:21 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Abortion
 
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Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 25/10/2007 01:00:56

It brings me on to the last comment I posted on the other thread on abortion!
What if it was twins, triplets, all perfectly formed at 24weeks which they are!
How can you conscience, live with that?
Babies are perfectly formed at about 12weeks, then its, grow. grow, grow, until the murder takes place!

2

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 25/10/2007 12:29:23

We can always rely on Cardinal O'Brien to toe the party line - the Vatican party line.

We know priests take a vow of obedience but sometimessdoesn't their God-given conscience intrude in the case of rape victims and those women whose live will be imperilled - or they could even die - in giving birth.

But since the Catholic church is firmly entrenched in Medieval morals, one can only be aghast at its inhumanity to suffering womankind.

That is to be expected of a "boy's club" that has an inordinate fear of women and their sexuality and wallows in same-sex "special friendships".

3

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 25/10/2007 14:03:44

jennifer

I beg to disagree. No reasons need to be submitted as my views in my posting are self-evident.

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Charles Linskaill,

With Heart! 25/10/2007 15:50:49

Its often I come on these pages, having a 'rant', but today because of this issue, i would really like to tell what its like from both sides of the coin, unfortunately not the Babies.
I have two girls (grown up now) with my ex, we were one of the first in Edinburgh to use the at that time, the new birthing room at our hospital to have our second child, which was a marvelous experience.
We also went through one termination, although that was years ago, even as a guy I don't forget about this dreaded time, so what it like for the Woman must be worse! and 'The terminated Baby', we can only imagine, if our minds let us, or possibly if you are religious, you might meet your dead Baby again someday!
As many of you know my DYW (darling young wife) and I have been TTC (trying to conceive) for 10years now, had a little help about 3years ago but no luck, we are lucky to have been given an appointment date soon to start trying for a 'BaBa' again soon.
Both my DYW and I don't have hate fr anyone that has had an abortion, but its something we both could never do, unless under Extreme circumstances, but even at that my DYW, would rather die herself, than terminate a Baby inside her.
As many should know, a 'Baby' is FULLY FORMED at about 12weeks, then its 'grow, grow, grow', so YES the 'Mums-to-Be' on here at about 18-20 weeks, it is A CHILD you feel, She or HE doesn't suddenly turn into a Baby at birth!
Also as many said, its an argument with NO easy answer, for me now, after years of having a wife working with Babies and all the courses I help her with my attitude has changed on abortion, you see even when my wife thought she was pregnant, that was it, it WAS OUR BABY, and my wife would be very careful in all she did and even I felt all 'father-like' and protective!
Life starts at conception DAY1, I used to think it was OK to abort at 20weeks, then 15weeks, but after doing a study on conception to birth, I think 15weeks is a 'no-no'!
So

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JG,

Fife 25/10/2007 16:18:14

Personally, I couldn't give a monkey's what the Cardinal's opinion is. He has no idea what he's talking about. He is not a medical man. He is not a woman (they don't let women reach such exhalted positions in his organisation). He gets his opinions from a book written 2000 years ago and a man in Rome.


 

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