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Capital targets 'bevvy culture' blighting city



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Published Date: 06 May 2008
A MAJOR drive to curb drink-fuelled violence in the heart of Scotland's capital is set to be unveiled today.
Police, council and health chiefs will join forces to tackle the "bevvy culture" they claim blights Edinburgh city centre.

Regular trouble-makers, badly run licensed premises, irresponsible shopkeepers and cheap drink deals will all be targeted un
der a new action plan.

There are also plans to introduce the expanded use of test purchasing schemes, CCTV cameras, joint initiatives between council and police officers, and more on-street marshals for taxi ranks.

The first violence-reduction programme for the city is planned to run for the next five years.

Figures released earlier this year revealed one nightclub was visited by police almost 250 times in the space of 12 months.

The report states: "Hotspot mapping for crimes of violence clearly shows a connection between areas with high availability of alcohol and high incidence of violence.

"While the strength of Edinburgh's night-time economy is good news, the availability of alcohol and its misuse by a minority, gives real cause for concern," it says.

Superintendent Ramzan Mohayuddin of Lothian and Borders Police, said: "While Edinburgh is fortunate to have lower levels of violence than many comparable cities, there is no room for complacency.

"The profound impact violence has on victims, perpetrators, witnesses and families is obvious."

Councillor Paul Edie, the city's community safety leader, said: "We plan to prevent violence from occurring, help those at risk of becoming a victim or offender and treat those who are already committing violence or are being victimised."



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1

yockel,

06/05/2008 07:45:50
The serving of alcohol to drunks, which is already illegal needs to be addressed.
24 hr closure on the spot might help.
Though this would do little to deal with the multitude of other alcohol issues, getting a good thumping for shutting your mates pub by being drunk might help promote a little social resposibility, which is the real issue.
Behaviour, consequence, its a Pavlovian thing.
2

eric,

Lothian 06/05/2008 08:28:36
For a City that would fit into Glasgows South Side this is not good.
3

S'me,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 08:39:45
Eric... what can I say.. you're obsessed!
4

JT,

06/05/2008 08:40:56
Last sat my partner and I went into town for a meal which was really good however as it was a pleasant evening we walked along George St and it was about 945pm and people were staggering around already, we got swarmed by two massive hen parties who were already drunk. It was really off putting. Im not an old foggy before anyone asks but I think next time we will avoid town. I cant believe that with all the cctv around the capital more people cant be taken off the streets for being yobs.
5

Boy Wonder,

06/05/2008 09:01:07
The barn door is open and the horse has long since bolted.

Cutting drinking hours won't help now. Barring individuals won't work.

Cheap booze in supermarkets has completely changed things.

All drunks picked up need to go to late-night drunk tanks and slapped with huge fines. Take the money away from them. There's the solution. And return off-sales alcohol to the likes of Oddbins, where everyone would show a pass of some sort that allows them to buy the stuff.

It IS a bigger problem than smoking or drugs. But, the biggest problem is that the government won't touch it because of the taxation they take from its sales!

6

Rod,

Champfleurie Estate 06/05/2008 09:06:05
#2 For a City that would fit into Glasgows South Side this is not good.

Geography Lesson - Module 1 (Foundation)
City of Edinburgh surface area 28373 hectares.
Glasgow City surface area 17549 hectares.
Which makes the surface area of Edinburgh 50.28% greater than that of Glasgow.
Geography Lesson - Module 2 (Foundation)
Aberdeen City surface area 18,576 hectares or 5.8% greater than that of Glasgow.
Pupil project 1
Check the web site of the General Register Office for Scotland to confirm this distressing data.
7

Dileas,

06/05/2008 09:15:01
"Which makes the surface area of Edinburgh 50.28% greater than that of Glasgow."

Sorry - I make that 61.68% greater.
8

Southsider71,

East Renfrewshire, Glasgow 06/05/2008 09:38:13
yawn....
9

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

06/05/2008 10:02:52
Its not that easy , its too deep in the culture. From sponsoring childs football tops to cheap bevvy in supermarkets , a ridiculous number of boozers, an absolute NEED to go out and get hammered at the weekend.

Imagine it was pies. Everyone going out and eating 8 pies on a friday night. It makes just as much sense.
10

Rod,

Champfleurie Estate 06/05/2008 10:13:56
#7 Sorry - I make that 61.68% greater.

My apologies. Edinburgh = 26373 and not the 28373 originally stated.
Mathematics Module (Foundation)
Use of the calculator - identifying the bits you need to press.
;-)
11

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 10:39:39
What the hell is this? Anti-alcohol day or something?

for the third time...

WE DO NOT NEED ANY MORE BRAIN-DEAD LAWS
WE DO NOT NEED ANY STUID NEW TAXES.

Scotland DOES NOT have a "bevvy culture". Why should law-abiding people be held to account for the actions of morons? Start be enforcing the EXISTING laws before restricting our freedoms further and treating us all like nursery-school muppets.
12

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

06/05/2008 11:15:53
11. It does it does and you are a radge. Admit it.
13

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 11:33:15
Mario,

If I am a radge, consider for a moment the status of those who seek to curtail our freedoms on a tide of supposition, misunderstanding, hype, lies and knee-jerks.

I speak out for common sense and from a position of refusing to accept sensationalism at face value. I also speak out for the rights of the individual to make their own choices and for their right to take responsibility for their own actions without fear of nanny state interferance.

If that makes me a radge, what does it make you in light of the fact that you are prepared to support yet another pointless set of infringements of personal liberty justified by hyped up, overstated, twisted round lies?
14

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

06/05/2008 11:47:44
because it's certainly NOT hyped up. It's true. Scotlands dunkenness holds the country back in EVERY respect. We are a "nation" of drug addicts handing over our economy our money and our mental health to the breweries. Cannae even afford to build a decent M8 , cannae connect the airport to a train line, cannae afford to upgrade the A9. Cannae be bothered.
15

council never win,

edinbrugh 06/05/2008 12:14:48
We are a nation that thinks going out and drinking is a pastime or a hobby.

I have read all these 3 alcohol related articles today and it reflects many of the issues I have dealt with over the last 20 years.

We are brought up to drink and drink some more - my folks did it and initiated me in it. My dad still does it when we visit. It's not a let's go and have a game of pool and pint. It's just let's go down the pub and drink.

Every family get together is the same and I know friends' families who are the same. Basically families get together binge drink and fall out.

How about drinking not being the main activity? How about it being sport or some outdoor activity or a meal or a bit of culture? It doesn't mean you can't drink but the drink is not the focus anymore.

16

ThePeter,

Glasgae 06/05/2008 12:54:45
# 11 - totally agree with you
Also, this Weegie versus Edinburgh thing
The totally pished in Edinburgh is just a light drink in Weegie land
17

Euan,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 14:51:38
I think the USA has the correct approach concerning the sale of alcohol.

You're not allowed to buy any booze if you are under 21 ANYWHERE in the US.

Even when you are over 21, you HAVE to have photo ID on you to buy alcohol, pensioner or not, if you don't have it, you don't get served.

I don't see why this sort of law could not be introduced in Scotland.

I mean how hard can it be?

On saying this, we should scrap the stupid rules in this country not allowing you to buy booze before 12.30pm on a Sunday, especially annoying when you realise the Formula 1 is about to start and there's no coldies in the fridge..
18

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 06/05/2008 22:44:35
Mario...

...It's hyped up.

It's hyped up as sure as eggs are eggs.
19

EleanorLovesEdinburgh,

Edinburgh 07/05/2008 10:36:21
The reason that this sort of law could not be introduced in Scotland is that IT DOESN'T WORK. Underage drinking in the USA is as rife and as established as it is here, but the problem is merely pushed underground by laws that are easily flouted by those determined enough to do so. It would be completely infeasible to halt all alcohol sales to under 21s; the culture of student drinking is far too ingrained and reliance on sales to those aged 18-21 by licensed premises too great for it ever to be practical- there would be an enormous effect on the industry, and quite frankly, I can't see the government being able to overcome the powers of the SLTA etc. Before any change to current laws are introduced, these laws need to be ENFORCED. I will freely admit to having gone out to licensed premises since the age of fifteen without being asked for ID; completely ridiculous. Yes, it would have been irritating not to have been able to do so, but if this is the tiny price that I would have had to pay to be free and able to do so at the age of eighteen, then so be it. ID effectively - two forms of PHOTOGRAPHIC ID, no cut passports, back-up in the form of bankcards, N.I. number card etc. I also can't say that I disagree entirely with alcohol sales in off-licenses being limited to over-21s; this may be an effective measure, but again, it also could mean that it will now be those between the age of 14-20, as opposed to 14-17, asking parents, older siblings, friends to buy them alcohol. THIS is the culture that needs to be tackled. Alcohol needs to be de-glamourised and its dangers highlighted in a much more effective way. And yes, price increases would be effective. It's much harder to find an extra £30 for a night out than a willing 21 year old to buy alcohol for many teenagers.

 

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