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Published Date:
17 November 2006
Maggie's Cancer Care Centre in Inverness wins best building 2006 Architect body's president blames PPP's for pricing out small firms Scotland does not have open bidding system for buildings common in EU
Key quote "In Britain generally, let alone Scotland, I don't want to live in a country where we are producing a few jewels in a whole pile of rubbish - which it is, frankly" - Richard Murphy, award-winning Edinburgh architect
Story in full THE cream of Scotland's architects gathered to celebrate the best of the country's design renaissance yesterday.

At a ceremony at Edinburgh's Balmoral Hotel, the Maggie's Cancer Care Centre in Inverness - with its curving copper walls and soft-wood interiors - was hailed as Scotland's best building of 2006.

But they warned that housebuilders and government contractors needed to make better use of the country's architectural talent, complaining of "potato stamp" mass-produced homes, "dreary and unimaginative", and poorly-constructed public projects.

Douglas Read, the president of the Royal Incorporation of Scottish Architects, said last night's Andrew Doolan Awards showed Scottish architects rank with the best in the world. But "volume builders" must start using them, he said. "Very little of volume building housing ever sees an architect's hand.

"The showpiece buildings are always of a high standard and it's the everyday buildings we would like to see raised to a high standard."

Some housing associations are building a good track record, such as Port of Leith Housing Association in Edinburgh, and the Molendinar Park Housing Association in Glasgow, he said. But in big public- private partnership (PPP) projects for public buildings, the "bundling" of a dozen or more buildings has priced out small architects' firms, as has the £5 million insurance demanded on big contracts.

The incoming director of the Lighthouse, the national centre for architecture and design in Glasgow, has given a similar message. Nick Barley recently singled out improving Scotland's homes - by working with builders - as his goal. "Scotland suffers from very poor quality of housing stock for ordinary people," he said. "You can drive through any number of Scottish towns with dreary, unimaginative, cheaply-built housing."

But Phil Hogg, the marketing director for Miller Homes, said only about 30 per cent of its homes were built to a standard design, with another 30 per cent created by external architects.

"There is often a great difference between the views of architects and the general public," he said. "In general, the public have firm ideas about the types of homes they love. Often, ambitious designs look out of place years down the line, where traditional designs are timeless."

Ingrid Gahagan, the sales director for Persimmon Homes West Scotland, said it acknowledged the "importance of good design and the significance of architecture", citing awards for its Sheriff Court and Anchor Mill sites. "We plan and design the layout and structure of our developments in order to ... meet market demand," she said.

The Andrew Doolan Award, worth £25,000, is named for the architect behind the striking Point Hotel and Conference Centre in Edinburgh. Mr Doolan left £20 million when he died suddenly in 2004 at 52.

Among those shortlisted were the giant new Royal Bank of Scotland headquarters in Edinburgh's Gogarburn and an elegantly simple house in Longniddry, East Lothian, and the other seven pictured here.

The winner, the Maggie's Centre in Inverness, was singled out by the Scottish health minister, Andy Kerr, as a way of using architecture to create a healing environment.

Designed to offer comfort to sufferers and their families, it takes its place as an icon of Scottish design alongside other award-winners, including the Scottish Parliament and Edinburgh's Dance Base. Mr Kerr's department is teaming up with Architecture and Design Scotland, the Executive's design champion, to encourage good design for NHS Scotland and health buildings.

The ADS chief executive, Sebastian Tombs, said: "A large proportion of the Scottish construction budget comes through the public sector, so it is appropriate for the public sector to be leading the way in good design."

The architect David Page, of Page/Park which designed the Maggie's Centre, said its aim was to break with hospital stereotypes. "If you go into a rectangular room, it reinforces all the old stereotypes. There's nothing rectangular about it, it flows in all sorts of ways; it's almost as if it floats around you."

He is the co-author of the book Cloned City, on "potato stamp houses" that add nothing to the national psyche. "We are still making those everywhere," he said.

The award-winning Edinburgh architect Richard Murphy said the talent in Scotland is very high, helped along by lottery cash for major projects, a pot of money that is now shrinking.

"More interesting housing design began to emerge in cities," he said. However, he added: "In 95 per cent of suburban housing developments I see no change from the Noddy-box mentality, which litters the landscape from Caithness to Cornwall.

"In Britain generally, let alone Scotland, I don't want to live in a country where we are producing a few jewels in a whole pile of rubbish - which it is, frankly."

Competitions revitalise building design


SCOTLAND lacks the open competitions where emerging architects can bid to design buildings that are common in Germany, Scandinavia and the Netherlands.

"They provide a regular strand of opportunity for young architects," said Sebastian Tombs, chief executive of Architecture and Design Scotland. "There's a stronger tradition over there of local competitions even for smaller projects, and an expectation among the public that new public investment will have a cultural dimension built in.

"We should encourage more of them; there's been a bit of a drought of design competitions."

Scotland is holding on to architects who once left, said David Page, of Page/Park, but people still think they have to hire architects from outside the country.

Buildings designed by outsiders range from the Scottish Parliament and Our Dynamic Earth in Edinburgh to the massive new transport museum planned in Glasgow.

In Spain, said Mr Page, architecture is used as "an expression of self-confidence. Including almost every town hall, it's incredible the quality of civic buildings that have been put up in Spain".

He added: "The Irish are doing incredible stuff, in terms of the expansion of their towns and civic buildings. Dublin Docks is absolutely exquisite, done by Dublin architects."

Architect Richard Murphy said that on a trip to Barcelona he was told every school in the region is built after a competition. Here, schools are bundled to a contractor, he said. "We are getting some extremely tedious schools and hospital designs."

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  • Last Updated: 17 November 2006 1:45 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Architecture
 
1

Peter Cherbi,

Edinburgh 17/11/2006 02:34:05

Richard Murphy was referring to the Scottish Parliament when he was on about the pile of rubbish ? because it certainly isn't a jewel.

2

scottwebb.co.uk,

17/11/2006 03:18:52

Comment@1 Peter, nice one matey :)......as for Richard, met him on a number of occasions in the early nineties when i was dating this groovy chick from Uni that was in one of his classes.........found the guy to be quite a laugh when he was out, bright guy

3

Callum Gray,

Ann Arbor Michigan 17/11/2006 04:58:43

Architecture is the subject. Why was the pariament designed by a Spaniard. Seems to me that such a building, so personal to the Scottish psyche and history should have been fashioned by a scot. Even a thatch covered but'n'ben would be an improvement.

Missing home and all that goes with it.


Callum

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scottwebb.co.uk,

17/11/2006 06:37:51

Comment@4 Mr McCrunchie, hi mate, dont you mean one of the logal branches over seeing the rolling out of the One World Government Agenda, the other being The Scottish Exec

6

scottwebb.co.uk,

17/11/2006 06:54:35

Heres a very interesting vid which helps explain what i meant by last comment http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=827919062866201...

7

Peter Cherbi,

Edinburgh 17/11/2006 08:03:23

Interesting roof on that building .. wonder how it will fair up in terms of maintenance costs over timethough ...even though it is in copper.

[off topic]
a friend of mine is in the process of making some msp/holyrood videos for You Tube .. will be looking forward to them.

8

BingoFace,

17/11/2006 08:09:44

Ive actually got a bone to pick with our tenements, never mind the glass and steel numbers.

Tenements are Gray, boring , unadorned. they make me feel depressed.

9

paulr,

17/11/2006 08:14:10

Cheap crap sold for extremely high prices, just look at any new development.
The builders get specially constructed half size furniture for the show houses to make them appear to be normal size houses.

10

GP,

17/11/2006 08:15:57

So architects don't like other architects designs.
What's new?

11

eric,

17/11/2006 08:21:30

The Armadillo In Glasgow is More spectacular, Glasgow Bulldozed Council houses like that In The Gorbals,That Parliament is an eyesore,

12

Lumber Jack,

here & now 17/11/2006 08:28:00

Scottwebb, why is it that you always see everything as conspiracy?
World domination by the few!!!!

13

Steve S,

17/11/2006 08:32:30

Ahh, The Scotsman comments page - an everyday insight to small town mentality the world over.

14

conservative,

Fife 17/11/2006 08:58:25

Of course asking architects what they think of house design is a bit like asking the lions if they like the look of the zoo. I would much rather have my 'potato stamp' house than some weird-looking, experimental, troublesome nonsense dreamed up by these architects. Is there an actual instance anywhere of an interesting piece of architecture which has both met it's budget and proved to be practical?

15

BingoFace,

17/11/2006 09:00:30

Architecture can and does influence peoples behaviour 13.

This is well known. Our "canyons" of Tollcross , Leith , Gorgie , South Side etc create a terrible ominous atmosphere. The buildings are like big grey flat crags.

The steel and glass numbers are at least a lot lighter to look at.

Sorry , if i am starting to sound like a pofie architect but it does interest me.

Look at the way the seagulls patrol down our "canyons" searching out stray chips and pizza , they are perfectlt at home there.

btw , I live in a tenement when im home. I want to paint it Bright Purple, but the *other* absentee landlords would probably never allow me.

16

Oldteuchter,

Inverness 17/11/2006 09:24:12

I'm so glad that the Maggie's Centre Architects have won an award. It was well deserved. A thoughtful building, relaxing for the users, yet inovative and stimulating.

It shows what can be done. Unfortunately the opportunity is just not there for the most architects. Still and all, I suppose that designing cheap to build homes that comply with the Technical Handbook is a challenge in it's self.

Let's have a well done for the builders too for meeting and beating the challenges that the construction posed.

17

Lang Spoon,

Leith 17/11/2006 09:32:03

The comments about our Parliament are all too familiar!

This building won some sort of award (from other architects) but has been almost universally reviled by the greater public.

Hopefully the Scottish weather will see it off in a few years, and we can then have a more serviceable building.

18

Broadsword,

Bavaria 17/11/2006 09:41:36

With the exception of a few set-piece buildings the general standard of architecture and build in this country is very poor. The volume housebuilders bang up genefric designs that are badly built. They are almost certain to look awful within 30 years and need replaced within 50. Yet we still shell out HUGE piles of cash for them.

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Joe Williamson,

Wellhouse housing association 17/11/2006 09:46:26

Whilst i am all for innovation, variety and high design elelments, we must be aware a large percentage of our population live in sub-standard housing which impacts on every aspect of their lives, health, education, life chances etc.

There must be a public debate reagrding the balance between design and volume can we follow a European model and have both?

20

jennie,

scotland 17/11/2006 09:55:10

Where I live, a volume builder has plonked (I use the word advisedly) 100 bungalows in a development in the middle of the village which have nothing to do, architecturally, with the houses around.
The plan for these bungalows is the same one you see from Cornwall to Caithness, lacks any imagination, does not relate to the vernacular architecture, the layout does not relate to the surrounding landscape and - well, it's probably too late, but in an ideal world, government would do something intelligent and creative about these volume builders.
(probably the only time you're ever going to see the words 'intelligent' and 'government' in the same sentence)
Re The Parly - the roofs on that are going to give ten times more trouble than Maggie's Inverness place. What a mess! and of course it should have been designed by a Scot. What kind of message does it send out that it wasn't?

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Zipper,

Glasgow 17/11/2006 10:04:25

im fed up with pompous architects saying that everything is rubbish except what they do
these so called design led practices have no comprehension of cost
or for that matter what the public actually want
yet they sit there in their glass tower looking down their nose feeling sorry for the poor uneducated people (you know who you are)

most of these iconic buildings will look dated in 30 years time just like their efforts in the 60’s

The new Zaha Hadid Maggies Centre in Kirkcaldy is a prime example of an Architect full of their own self importance trying to build a monument to themselves .......and what a load of rubbish it is

22

BingoFace,

17/11/2006 10:06:53

Look at the crap being built in Leith and all along the waterfront.

23

BingoFace,

17/11/2006 10:16:21

Or "Croy".

FFS.

24

GP,

17/11/2006 10:37:26

The parliament builidng is braw and at least it's in Edinburgh only pity it couldn't have sat where the castle is as its a MESS OF A BUILIDNG architecturally speaking.

25

AJ,

Fife 17/11/2006 11:10:58

Very good GP......MESS..... is that an original one or did you make it up?

26

Matthew,

17/11/2006 11:21:23

The Scottish Parliament is one of the least imposing public buildings I have ever seen, and putting it in a low-lying position makes it worse (although low-lying suits the occupants).

The whole thing is just too fiddly. There's no coherence. It's simply a collection of stylistic quirks thrown together nto something that looks like nothing more than a giant pile of scrap. Kids with Lego could have done better.

I can see why architects love it though. They would kill to be given a project where they can indulge their whims without financial constraint.

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Caliwag,

york 17/11/2006 11:34:03

Cannot see a problem with the Scottish Parliament being designed by a Spaniard, British architects build all over the world and their creations are welcomed. Miralles (spb architect) was a truly superb sculptural architect, the best kind, thinking entirely in three dimensions, a real quality actually as most architects are just floor planners and fashion followers...that's why it won its awards and really why architects are not invited to get involved in mass housing. They would just end tinkering around the edges, playing with proportions, improving planning, and doing green bits and pieces...all valuable and improving but not award winning. Anyway every Tom, Dick and Harry and builder boy thinks they can do that and after all "I live in a house so what can an architect tell me"?
Incidentally if you don't believe me about the best buildings (see you don't even need to call it architecture) being scultural (structure, space and light) just consider some of the most recent "successes"...Bilbao for example (put the place on the map), or even the armadillo and that thing in Gateshead. These are flagship, sculptural buildings, just like the SPB. I personally think that its the best thing to be built in Scotland for a generation...please feel free to nominate yours... I'm afraid that the brits are just not prepared to accept anything except cosy cottage style buildings which is where the volume builders come in...they just go by what sells.
Incidentally on a recent visit to Edinburgh I honestly felt that Scottish architects...the bread and butter boys...knock spots off the English for retaining character, quality detailing and interest. So there.

Good luck, whatever you design.

Wag

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PETER C.,

Glasgow 17/11/2006 11:36:22

Architecture: Scotland's record is frankly WEIRD.

From the sublime to the obscene. The best is second to none, the worst is as bad as you'll find anywhere in the world :unspeakable. AND ALL THE WORST HORRORS ARE UNDER SIXTY YEARS OLD.

How is it that Scotland, of all countries, should in just a couple of generations have developed such an extraordinary cult of brutish all-round ugliness?

(Yes, NO SENSE PLEASE, WE'RE BRUTISH!!)

Generally speaking, our cities still do look like real cities - not the bloody mess you find in so many of the bigger towns south of the border.

Until some time in the inter-war period, Scottish architecture was exemplary. Edinburgh remains one of the world's finest cities. Glasgow is, with places like Barcelona and Chicago, one of the great nineteenth-century cities. What was built here one hundred years ago is as fine as the best to be found anywhere.

As for the post-war period - four letter words are far too good for what has been done to Scotland, and no doubt there are plenty of Scottish so-called architects now serving the Devil's town-planning department in Hell.

Tawdry, insultingly ugly eyesores, the product of a cult of home grown parish-pump mediocrity, combined with gross political corruption. (I don't KNOW about the corruption, but there is no other rational explanation (apart from lunacy) for the ABOMINATIONS visited upon Edinburgh and Stirling - to name two cities - by combinations of architects and city fathers.

And the horrid grey human deserts that stretch across great areas of the country with ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE (and hit the bottle) written all over them.

And no, I wasn't not thinking about the Scottish Parliament, which I don't care for one little bit, (all that nasty aggressive array of pikes, you'd expect to find a theme park with impaled heads and woad-painted Picts) but which is still relatively innocuous. John Lewis or Scottish Widows a

29

Duncan,

on tour 17/11/2006 11:38:11

I am always impressed and uplifted when I sail into Tobermory and see the colour that has been injected into the community by the multi coloured buildings. Local authorities should take notice!
These buildings are what attracted the BBC there to record there Balanory children's programme. Since then Mull and Tobermory have enjoyed a tourist boom.
With regard to potato stamp housing, I agree, there is nothing worse.
The Stalinist mentality of local authorities that created many of our concrete ghettos has to be eradicated. This has spilled over into the private sector, who throw up there timber framed Wendy houses in no time.
And as has been said, they have to have special small furniture made for there show houses, as they are so cramped. Another favourite trick is to remove all the internal doors, giving potential customers the illusion of space!
After all the smaller and more similar they can keep there buildings the less it cost's, jam them in tight, and then there is more profit. I would sooner daub my self in mud and live in a cave.
Another place where multi coloured buildings are of benefit to the landscape is Norway in particular, and Scandinavia in general. They seem to have much higher building regulation standards than us. And recognise that they live in an adverse climate. We tend to build as if we are in the Mediterranean. We can learn a lot from them, I wonder why we don't?

30

eric,

Lothian 17/11/2006 12:04:11

Yes Glasgow did knock down Lots of Victorian buildings ,If Glasgow had stayed like Edinburgh ,Our economy would have badly suffered.Glasgow now portraits a Modern dynamic Scotland as well as old,And thats The image i want for a Modern Scotland ,I know that edinburgh is stuck with the old ,And thats really nice etc,

31

Pete McClelland,

17/11/2006 12:21:02

The designers, architects, planners and builders in London have stumbled upon something miraculous. When one enters an old building made of stone etc, it's cool inside. When one enters a new building made of aluminium and concrete, it's warm so needs air conditioning. Air conditioning is responsible for making the temperature in London higher so in order to combat this more air conditioning is required to cool the new buildings. So! the genuises have come to the concusion that new buildings should be built of stone!
Wow!

32

Budgie,

Scotland 17/11/2006 12:39:36

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; some like the SPB , some don't and many more are indifferent.
Whatever view one holds, one thing is assured: it will remain a topic of conversation until it is no longer fit for purpose.Having said that,some might say that it has already reached this stage!.

33

Billy,

Germany 17/11/2006 12:59:44

Yes eric Glasgow may seem modern (By Scottish Standards), but If Labour had cleaned and renovated in the 60's instead of the wholesale destruction of some fantastic buildings, then the city would be more attractive, indeed the only attractive areas in Glasgow are those that were cleaned and renovated.

34

Budgie,

Scotland 17/11/2006 13:17:46

It is a pity that many fine buildings of architectural merit were destroyed in the mad rush to modernity - not only in Glasgow, but throughout Scotland.
Bridge Street in Inverness is a classic example of this municipal vandalism.

35

Chosen a name,

17/11/2006 13:23:09

I like the parlianment :-)

I think it looks great next to dynamic earth and arthurs seat.

36

Blackie,

NY State 17/11/2006 13:28:27

As an expat from the Granit City, I always thought our homes were much nicer than others in Scotland. The newer homes built since I left use other materials which I believe are much less expensive but you pay such a premium on them. What limits buildings that are affordable and their style are the building materials used in Britain. In the US, most houses are wooden and you can get the builder to build many varieties of design, they must pass the building code officer inspection as they progress. It takes much more money to build a brick home. Housing in my area is more affordable than most other places in the US. My wooden home has 4 bedrooms and two full baths on one acre of partially wooded land and I would be lucky to get $100,000 if I sold out. HRH The Prince of Wales was correct in his assessment of building design in Britain. The tennaments built in the 60's and 70's look like something out of Soviet society, cold and austire. The Victorian buildings Annie Lennox and I lived in had much more character. The homes currently being built in the US are getting larger. In the 1950's homes had around 1,500 Sq. Ft. and now are 2,500-3,500 sq. ft.

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DAVID,

Edinburgh 17/11/2006 13:31:31

Agree with the tone of comments like #35 and #36. Most modern buildings (mainly since WW2) that have gone up in Scotland are atrocious, as is the vast majority of housing designs (boxy, unimaginative, bland, uninspired).

I think this is very short sighted and reflects badly - again - on local authorities who have allowed this to happen. It's why I worry when I hear the government talk about giving more power to local democracy. As if Edinburgh District Council can execute their duties effectively at present - think of the mess when they have even more power.

Another point relates to the secondary housing market. In Edinburgh, demand in the housing market massively outstrips supply for the homes everyone lusts after, namely stone built Georgian / Victorian / Edwardian stuff. I seriously worry that we are building homes that nobody will want in a few years, especially as we are already seeing homes from the 50s and 60s being bought and then demolished to allow buyers to re-build afresh on the plot.

But of course, maybe this is a deliberate strategy by homebuilders. By building in obsolescense (spelling?) they are creating a market for themselves. They have no incentive to build decent designed houses if they can knock them down and start again every 30 - 40 years once they become obsolete and unwanted!

38

eric,

17/11/2006 13:53:26

Missed the Point .Glasgow has now got both images Modern & Old and the Modern has brought finance to to the city ,Armadillo etc etc .So it aint all bad news is it,Edinburgh has to make a living out of Tartan shortbread etc etc ,And that all fine for Edinburgh,Good for them ,

39

DAVID,

Edinburgh 17/11/2006 14:25:57

Jennifer #40 - thankfully we are not all as visionary as you.

The current lemming-like fascination within local councils all over the UK for "iconic" (ie ugly and unnecessary) buildings to pull in the tourists will be seen as utter folly in years to come. These buildings are unsympathetic to their surroundings, take no account of the local vernacular and form no part of an integrated and coherent town plan with real streets, facilities, etc. This Bilbao effect is damaging in itself, and also because of the knock-on effect of distracting us from focusing on addressing the real design and build quality issues that are plaguing our cities and towns.

Dismissing critics of daft, trendy buildings as having "tunnel vision" misses the point. Critics - like myself - are attempting to look beyond the headlines and current trends to raise concerns that these may be the current flavour of the month, but will we really look back on them fondly in future years? I think the answer is no.

40

PETER C.,

Glasgow 17/11/2006 16:43:47

David (40): thanks for helping me to understand that mysterious but disgusting word ICONIC which journalists and PR people in Britain now use three times in every paragraph - LOOK NO EDITOR - and which awaken in me the desire to build an iconic pillory for them.

Main thing: like your iconic buildings, it's useless, meaningless and a good way of farting way above one's fundament.

As for no. 42 - modernity - I'm all for it. But while (30) 19th century Glasgow compared with Chicago and Barcelona, something died on Clydeside in the second half of the 20th century, while it went on living and doing wonderful things in places like downtown Chicago. Armadillo etc.: fine, but it doesn't make up for the self-inflicted damage of the Sixties and Seventies.

Duncan (31) and David (39) have a good point. Building standards in the housing market remain abysmal, both technically and aesthetically. There's nothing more costly than false economies, and all British architecture and town planning seem for decades now to have been plagued with that disease. I can still remember a Polish architect-engineer friend who worked for one of the London boroughs in the Sixties complaining about how British buildings began falling apart before they were even finished...

(Well, Ronan Point was the extreme case, most buildings moulted a little less dramatically).

When will people understand that doing everything on the cheap is a luxury we can't afford?

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PETER C.,

Glasgow 17/11/2006 16:55:31

Sorry David (41) for confusing you with someone with whom you did not agree...

Perhaps I have do tunnel vision, perhaps it was brought on by working for years in an Important Public Building which looked like the proverbial camel (a racehorse designed by a committee) and functioned like a lead balloon. But much as I detest the lousy imitations of masters like Mies, Le Corbu etc. which defaced our cities from the Sixties onwards, I'm even more scared of what mediocre architects may get up to if they try to follow Gehry and other postmodern luminaries.

42

Esther. Mexico.,

17/11/2006 19:39:19

Peter C.#30. C'mon, admit it, you're really Prince Charles incognito.
I agreed with you all those years ago when you blasted the 'new' British architecture, I was hoping your little scolding had brought those guys to their senses. Doesn't seem to have had the desired effect.
There's so much to admire in the Glasgow of old... good,clasic design is timeless.

43

Marilyn,

USA 17/11/2006 21:22:52

It's always a complex debate. But "public funds VS. public good," (WHICH "public"?) instead of a debate framed as "public funds PRO public good" is a "them" VS. "us" frame that creates conflict, rather than a unified "them AND us.”

The "we" are those who must live IN buildings AS WELL AS look AT them--that means all of us. Being penny-wise and pound-foolish benefits none of us. Everyone wants to live where it's pleasing to the eye, functioning and serving all purposes well.

Yet, reverting to the "them" VS. "us" perspective divides us all against all of our purposes. Our conflicted mind shows up in what we do, what we create.

One certainty is this: public buildings = depression. And not merely of mood; or an economic sort; it's a motivational sort. The "haves" begrudge the "have-nots," perceiving them the cause of their own sorry plights, in a "meritocracy" attitude of self-righteousness. The "have-nots" resent the "haves" for having the power money gives, blaming them with greed, selfishness. Feelings of being used and abused on both parts = CONFLICT.

Perhaps a creative "exchange program" of dozens of groups, where all would live in the other's situations for a time, might refresh each one's prison of subjectivity.

It has been repeatedly proven: if one has no hope, one gives up. If one's life seems worthless, one feels others' lives are equally worthless. It's why people are killed for a lousy fiver in the pocket. If one doesn't receive respect (and respect is displayed in many different ways) one begins to lose respect not merely for oneself, but for others, as well. This speaks to "we are how we treat the least among us."

This doesn't mean one simply throws money at it; nor does one begrudgingly watch each penny. Often the best creativity results from a lack of funds-

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marc,

Western Canada - happily ex-pat 17/11/2006 22:40:26

There is an old saying that a society gets the architecture it deserves, and that those buildings reflect that society. So when a nation buildings are cheap, nasty and architecturally cynical - what does that reflect?

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Kitti Kat,

17/11/2006 23:18:03

The Parliament is ugly enough--Maggies Centre is just as bad. That building does nothing to make me feel a sense of peace. Makes my blood pressure rise. I would venture to guess that the architects are the ones who love it.

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Esther. Mexico.,

17/11/2006 23:18:26

Marc, Western Canada...how would you explain all those 'vinyl villages' so beloved of Western Canadian architects ?
The architecture in much of the west is truly appalling and soul-destroying.
To paraphrase your question... "Cheap, nasty, and cynical- what does that reflect ?"

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Dr. Who's-Gloverall,

Random points in the universe 18/11/2006 00:51:26

I now live in the Midwest of the US, for some reason. They have come up with a unique solution to the atrocious architecture of "vinyl villages" raping the farms and fields....It's called a tornado!

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Hunter,

OH - IO 18/11/2006 05:45:06

Of course Gray #3 is "missing home and all that goes with it" - he's stuck in Ann Arbor. Go Bucks.

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Hunter,

OH - IO 18/11/2006 05:46:04

Gray #3 - Go Bucks.

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ex ex-pat,

edinburgh 19/11/2006 08:21:05

Gray #3: Ann Arbor is a great place to live, kind of an American Edinburgh in a way, very "town and gown", full of parks and trees and within easy reach of beautiful countryside. Also has golf courses and loads of other recreational opportunities. Most residential areas are lovely, well-designed, individual homes with class and style, especially Ann Arbor Hills. But anyone living away from Edinburgh should make every effort to get home as often as possible, after all, there's no place like home!

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socialmedic,

USA 20/11/2006 04:36:49

World domination by the few, # 11? It should be ever more clear in the age of globalism that the world is being dominated by the many, not the few. Would the matters of cost and practicality be permitted to strangle all design sense were we not being accused of starving the nations of China, India and the like, by shaking the bars of our budget/practicality cages? No sir, the three or so BILLION pregnant women of the third world are having thier say, rather, ramming it down our throats. The extreme rationalism of Meyer is their aesthetic, not the moderism of Duiker nor the historicism of Charlie Windsor, PC and associates. This is true in the same way that their globalism is not about internationalism and a concert of free self-determining mutually respecting nations. Au contraire, it is fascist imperialism world wide commencing war on national boundaries. Not a facet of human existence is present in the world today that is not subject to their mass fascist dicatorship, from the outsourcing of the manufacturing sector of yesterday to the importing of scads white collar workers more than willing to push miles and miles of dull, practical, cost-effiecient lines at the point of a mouse for half our pay. One by one the marble chip streets succomb to asphault while historic city blocks and monuments are flattened to make way for more acres and acres and acres of concrete block Walmart ... and babies in from the third world.


 

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