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Caught on film … the beast of Helensburgh

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Published Date: 29 July 2009
THE mysterious big cats of legend are on the prowl once more.
A military policeman yesterday spoke of his shock after capturing what appears to be dramatic footage of a big cat prowling close to a Scottish naval base.

Chris Swallow, a dog handler based in Faslane on the Clyde, said he was "stunned" to see a large black cat on a nearby railway line.

The officer, in a friend's garden in the Churchill Estate in Helensburgh on 30 June, initially believed he was looking at a Labrador crossing the tracks.

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But on closer inspection he said he became convinced he had seen one of the mysterious big cats that reportedly roam Britain.

PC Swallow said: "The animal wasn't moving the way I expected a dog to. It was then I realised that what I was seeing was a big cat. I ran to my car to grab my mobile phone for a picture.

"I stood on the rail bridge in Winston Road and got a still photo and a couple of minutes of footage of the animal moving up the railway line."

The sighting comes only a week after Strathclyde Police alerted the public that a big cat may be on the prowl near Ayr, after a farmer's horse was attacked by what the police said was "possibly a puma".

Big cats have been seen in the area before, with several reports of a large tan-coloured creature – the "Coulport cougar" – in the woods and hills around Loch Long in 2004.

John Belshaw, HM Naval Base Clyde's pest control officer, said he was contacted by police in 2007 about the sightings.

He said: "I have had a look at Chris's footage and have to say that I do not believe it is a domestic cat or a dog."

The naval base animal is the latest in a long line of sightings of big cats in the UK – Palug's Cat reportedly roamed Anglesey in the Middle Ages, while the Beast of Bodmin has been regularly seen since the early 1990s. Most are thought to be panthers. Explanations range from escaped zoo and circus animals to a mass release in the 1970s following the Dangerous Wild Animals Act.

Shaun Stevens, a researcher for Big Cats In Britain, a group that investigates animal sightings, said the animal in PC Swallow's photographs is "certainly not a domestic cat".

He said: "Knowing that the width of the rail tracks in Chris's video is 4ft 8½in, the animal is clearly in excess of 4ft."


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  • Last Updated: 28 July 2009 10:46 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Big cats
 
1

Cynicus Unbound,

29/07/2009 00:56:56
Is this good luck or bad luck?

Does size matter?

2

Steve McGregor,

dundee 29/07/2009 01:06:19
Yes, this can now be used by English historians to postulate that there was existance of wild Lions in the british isles prior to the ice age. Since Scotland is "part of England", it will now be possible to justify all across the world than england indeed had wild lions in the past.
3

donald,

glasgow 29/07/2009 03:03:13
Scotland produced more sheep since it became part of England.
4

Bobh,

st augustine 29/07/2009 05:38:57
Why hasn't anyone used a few good hounds to track this creature?
5

yamty175,

Rich.People.Silverknowes. 29/07/2009 06:01:03
I tawt I taw a puddy tat.
6

Phil C,

29/07/2009 06:40:33
Here kitty, kitty!
7

Royster,

29/07/2009 07:00:39
Talk about silly season. Headline should read 'Overweight Cat seen Railway Line Shocker'.
8

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh. 29/07/2009 07:38:26
Was it wearing a hard hat?
9

JaE_in_Oz,

Oz 29/07/2009 07:50:42
I have seen one about that size in outback New South Wales. Daylight - no beer consumed - four of us saw it. Unfortunately only rabbit shooting rifles and guns otherwise the cat could have been subjected to scientific study before being made into a great mat.
10

Shopping anyone?,

29/07/2009 08:07:01
Its a black labrador is it no'? About as sensationalist as the Swine Flu stories they're scarin everyone wi !!!
11

voltaire's janny,

29/07/2009 08:07:21
This will belong to one of the two out of ten cat owners who say their cat prefers slaughtered lamb over whiskas.....
12

voltaire's janny,

29/07/2009 08:08:10
#10 They showed the moving clip on TV - it's a moggy of sorts fer sure.
13

Rob Royston,

Bishopbriggs 29/07/2009 08:12:46
Well, I don't think it got to that size on Felix.
14

Lianachan,

Highlands 29/07/2009 08:32:12
#12 Other, more reputable, news web sites also have the moving images. It does indeed seem to move more like a cat than a dog.

(Not linking to the other web site I saw it on, because when I did that yesterday my post was deleted, hilariously)
15

mr broon,

Edinburgh 29/07/2009 09:13:42
Remember the Bigfoot hoax?
16

Barnacle Bill,

29/07/2009 09:37:32
Big beast living in Helensburgh, what is the surprise here?
17

Rosscobhoy,

29/07/2009 09:46:25
If this doesn't keep weans off the railway tracks, what will?
18

AJ Fife,

29/07/2009 09:47:59
It's jist a wee yorkie walkin' ower a model train track.

Very clever effort though!
19

Joburg Pete,

29/07/2009 10:29:26
How does such a story make it to a newspaper like this?
20

Black Five,

edinburgh 29/07/2009 10:38:01
comment 1 ......I think it would be bad luck if you encountered that cat in a country lane !
21

danbob,

29/07/2009 10:41:24
It's a fake. The track width being 4ft 8 would make it no more than 2 foot in length. It's height comparing it to the rail height above the track bed would put it at about 2 foot. The posture is wrong also. I think it is a stuffed toy. Now wheres the road to Loch Ness.
22

Lianachan,

Highlands 29/07/2009 10:49:04
#21 Well, it's not a stuffed toy - unless it's a convincingly moving radio controlled one. Check the moving pictures on, well, practically any decent news site. I'm not saying it's a panther, but I am saying it's not a stuffed toy.

As for Loch Ness - no need, it's already completely discredited. The idea of there being a monster of any description in there is only maintained by a small group of idiots.
23

AJ Fife,

29/07/2009 10:52:08
#22,

George Galloway is holidaying nearby. Could it be him?
24

danbob,

29/07/2009 11:02:36
22# OK it's not a stuffed toy. But it's not a panther. My guess is it's a dog. There are a lot of dogs in Helensborough. It reminds me of the story from Barnsley a few year back. People were reporting seeing a lion on the loose. Turned out to be a huskey that had had it's back shaved due to a operation but it's neck fur remained, It looked like a lions mane.
25

Joburg Pete,

29/07/2009 11:07:09
The Lochness Monster, Big Cats, Scotland qualifying for a major tournament - all myth I tell you!
26

Horrible Cankers @Cyber Shebeen,

29/07/2009 11:07:49
Had a look on the vid on the BBC news website...at 1.02 on the footage it definitely takes some feline action by sniffing a bush and then spraying it..the strange thing is though it does look very dog-like...had to turn the audio off...heavy breathing from the fella that took the footage put me off my croissant.....
27

Lianachan,

Highlands 29/07/2009 11:10:32
#24 It does seem to move more like a cat than a dog, but, aye, that doesn't make it a panther or anything particularly weird or unusual. I would imagine a police dog handler would probably be a suitably qualified and reliable witness when it comes down to telling the difference between cats and dogs.
28

danbob,

29/07/2009 11:10:34
A labradoddle is my guess.
29

danbob,

29/07/2009 11:13:29
27# Well you think a surgeon would tell the difference between a toy and a monster but his picture still appears whenever a Loch ness story appears. A man who wants his fifteen minutes of fame perhaps?
30

Lianachan,

Highlands 29/07/2009 11:23:43
#29 That's always an extremely plausible explanation. In the case of the Loch Ness monster, it's the second most common one - falling well behind the leader, which is "misidentification by people who don't know much about the loch".
31

danbob,

29/07/2009 11:40:00
30# It was the same with the Cottingley fairies. Do you remember that one. In the thirties two friends took pictures of a couple a toy fairies and had the world believing they were real. Even the so called photography experts were taken in. It wasn't until they were in there seventies that they told all. The problem with these stories of big cats is no trace or droppings or bodies are ever found. People so desperatly want to belive. It's like UFOs, ghosts, and the real whopper of an independent Scotland being a paradise. People are desperate to belive they will listen to anything.
32

Lianachan,

Highlands 29/07/2009 11:51:23
#31 Yeah, I know the background to those fairies. Cool photos - those ladies did a bang up job.

I'm pretty sure I remember hearing about some livestock that had been found somewhere in the UK recently - maybe even last week - that seemed to have been killed by a big cat. Tangable evidence is key, though. This is particularly true for UFOs because people tend to use the extraterrestiral hypothesis as a safety net explanation... "I can't explain what that is, so it must be an alien spaceship". Doesn't seem to occur to people that such an explanation is as deserving of proof as any other. AS for independent Scotland being a paradise... I'd like to try that one out for myself. If it turns out not to be, then I'll still be much happier... it's definately not paradise within the constraints of the United Kingdom.
33

Mcsnagpile,

29/07/2009 11:55:18
The black feline, red eyed, monster is waiting for the last train to Glasgow Queen Street to haunt the corridors for lonely late night passengers.
On cold winters nights one can sometimes hear distant cat screams above the howling winds coasting over from Tighnabruaich on its relentless eyrie journey to the Campsie’s snow toped hills.
It is not easy being a black moggy in Scotland.
34

David55,

29/07/2009 13:00:31
#7 - That's what I saw too. An overweight common moggy. It looked like a former pet of mine.
35

Rob Royston,

Bishopbriggs 29/07/2009 13:08:36
Could it be the son of Sam The Skull.
36

Curious Yellow,

Edinburgh 29/07/2009 13:09:15
What a load of tripe! It quite clearly is a cat, perhaps a large cat, but certainly not a Big Cat! And no-way is it a dug!
37

danbob,

29/07/2009 13:14:58
36# Is a dug a new species common to the windswept hills of Scotland?
38

The Glasgow Ranger,

Edinburgh. 29/07/2009 13:51:01
Can we not send in the local delinquents to check it out?

Come to think of it does Helinsburgh have delinquents or should they be brought in from Dumbarton?
39

Obanite,

29/07/2009 13:57:51
#38 Helensburgh just has stuck-up princesses and their exotic animal loving husbands...wait a minute!
40

ScotLJM,

Richmond 29/07/2009 14:58:31
My bet is that it IS a young black Panther, Leopard or Puma whatever you want to call it. It is the tail that gives me the clue, long and relatively thick. I have not seen a video, but if it walks rather stealthily, then that's another indication. Dogs move in a jerky fashion mostly, cats glide.
41

The Browne Gothic,

Medieaval Nottinghamshire 29/07/2009 16:09:35
They just got too big ....... methinks 'tis those pre raphelite boys, one wishes, Angie Baby.
42

The Browne Gothic,

Medieaval Nottinghamshire 29/07/2009 16:16:18
....... or maybe it doesn't have a home 'went out for a while and got lost ....... 'can you help me with this'
43

danbob,

29/07/2009 17:05:23
It could be a dog that strayed a bit close to faslane and got a dose of radiation, this caused it to morph into a hideous cat like creature. Could help explain some of the local pondlife that circulates.
44

Cynicus Unbound,

29/07/2009 18:10:32
The video is an obvious fake.

The beast is clearly the Loch Ness Monster in disguise -cheesed off by all the seasonal rubbernecks at Castle Urquhart.
45

MattyMat,

So Cal 29/07/2009 20:15:39
It's obvious the cat was drunk on Tokyo, perhaps?
46

Ronda,

New York State 29/07/2009 22:02:05
We have mountain lions in New York State. I have seen mountain lions and inspected the skins of dead mountain lions, and this is not a mountain lion. The tail on a mountain lion is nearly a meter long and almost as big as your wrist. It is almost never held up like with a house cat. In addition, the animal in the video walks like a domestic cat not a mountain lion. It appears to me that the animal in this video is walking on the train rail. The foot of a mountain lion is 3 in./7.6 cm wide. That would make it difficult (but not impossible) for a mountain lion to walk on the rail like that especially since mountain lions don't put one foot directly behind the other when they walk. The whole posture and shape of this animal is wrong for a mountain lion. I'd have to say that this is just someone's large cat.
47

TexasJan,

Richardson, TX 29/07/2009 23:34:20
#46 You are speaking of American big cats. This is a Scottish big cat. There could be enough difference in the breed that the walk is a bit different. I've seen Pumas, Bob Cats, they don't all move exactly alike. I've also seen some very large domestic cats, but not as large as the one in the picture above. I haven't seen any of the clips. Maybe they haven't seen any scat because the cat burys it. Around here a lot of people have lost their small dogs to big cats. We have built out until we have encrouched onto their land.
48

hidflect,

Tokyo, Japan 29/07/2009 23:49:53
It's a bit of a wee beastie, isn't it? Bit hard to build a tourist trap around THAT one...
49

Texas Sandman,

Kountze 30/07/2009 02:00:10
Why is it so hard to believe that a big cat could live in Scotland? Is the entire kingdom paved with concrete and tarmac? But from the pic (I couldn't locate the video), this critter is far from the size of a puma/cougar/mountain lion/panther. It's not quite as tall as a Labrador, and smaller than a Blue Tick Hound. MUCH bigger than a bobcat, however, and he tail is not bobbed.
There are at least two lions (American lions, or cougars, that is) living in the woods at my 600-acre place in east Texas. The older one is about 3 feet at the shoulder, with a six-foot body and a four foot tail. I've seen them a few times roaming the woods at twilight.
So why can't there be a big cat near Helensburgh?
50

COH,

England. 30/07/2009 12:48:04
Perhaps the police officer need some specs,it is a bloody lab!

 

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