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Shops' bag levy carries some big problems with it



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Published Date: 12 May 2008
IN your story "M&S bags some praise from minister", (May 6), Richard Lochhead, the Environment Secretary, conveniently chooses to forget that he himself was part of the previous administration's environmental cross-party committee that unanimously agreed that to ban or tax plastic carrier bags would increase waste in Scotland by some 13,700 tonnes per annum.
Included in that report were the statistics that nearly 70 per cent of plastic carrier bags were re-used for a variety of uses.

In praising M&S for introducing a charge for plastic carrier bags Mr Lochhead fails to realise that M&S as a company
stands to benefit to the tune of £6.5 million yet has said it will raise about £1 million for charity, so where does the rest of the money go?

In answers to a recent parliamentary committee Mike Pringle said the reason he withdrew his previous bill in 2006 was because he knew that it was not going to be recommended to parliament and that a voluntary agreement had been reached with supermarkets.

That was utter nonsense for the simple reason that the voluntary agreement hadn't even been considered by politicians until early 2007, furthermore, the agreement that is now in place is quite clear in its objectives, and that it is to reduce the "environmental impact" of ALL types of carrier bags which include the likes of paper, cotton, jute and other non-plastic/higher impact carrier bags.

Finally, customs and excise figures clearly show that polymers of plastic imported into Eire since the introduction of their "plastax" have increased substantially, with sales of black refuse bags and bin liners up in some instances by 400 per cent.

Bill MacDonald, Staunton Rise, Livingston


Governor must act over prison drugs

IF drug use is more common in Saughton than in other prisons, as your article "Numbers caught smuggling drugs into city's prison soars" (News, May 5) suggests, then the most likely cause is the attitude of the prison management. It seems extraordinary to me that the Governor can not effectively control the introduction of illegal drugs into the prison.

G Davies, National Drug Prevention Alliance, Radnor Way, Slough


Getting the wrong ID about databases

WHILE Margaret Smith rightly raises the importance of security measures surrounding the national identity register ("Government can't be trusted with our personal information", News, May 5), she is mistaken to suggest that large databases must somehow be "dangerous". Take the current passport database which contains some 80 million records. The Identity and Passport service, which will administer the identity scheme, has an excellent track record when it comes to data security.

However, what government data losses have done is underscore the need to get the basics right. This is why the level of security for the national identity register will match some military databases. Personal data will be held on three separate and secure systems to greatly reduce the risk of unauthorised disclosures of information being used to damaging effect.

A National Identity Scheme Commissioner will oversee the scheme. He or she will produce annual reports to be put before Parliament on identity card uses and the integrity of the scheme.

No-one ever claimed ID cards are the only answer to terrorism or crime. But criminals and terrorists use multiple identities to hide their activities. ID cards will make it much harder to use false identities by linking a person's unique identity to the national identity register using biometrics such as fingerprints.

Finally, the latest estimate for the cost of the scheme published on Tuesday shows costs over ten years have been reduced by nearly £1 billion to £4.56bn. This is not money that can be "spent on putting more police on our streets". ID cards are like passports – the fees cover the operational costs of producing them. If there is no card, there is no money to spend on anything else.

Meg Hillier MP, Home Office Minister, Marsham Street, London


School must make economic sense

I AGREE with Jean Douglas (Letters, May 3) when she states the council has only set aside £33 million over the next three years to replace all the Wave 3 schools.

However, I'm afraid that Jean provides no costs for a new Portobello High School on Portobello Park. Whereas I used the official independent consultants report: they estimated that a new school on the park would cost the city of Edinburgh £33.5m compared to £47.9m on the existing site. The additional monies are largely attributable to a damaging two or three-year decant affecting thousands of families.

Regarding the other "missing" £15m? Jean goes on to argue "The other £15m capital receipts, from the sale of the existing site, suggests that the property market is buoyant, and that a high reward for this land, in an already built-up area will be achieved. However, this reward will be felt mainly by property developers and mortgage brokers, and not by the existing residents of the area."

Whether or not property developers eventually make a profit, they will pay the city up to £15m for the development site, money that could be used to rebuild two new primary schools elsewhere.

I'm sure the councillors who voted unanimously to build a school on the park took more than costs into account. However, they do have a duty of care to the other citizens of the city. The councillors were faced with the following choice: At a cost of £48m they could shoehorn the biggest school in the city onto the smallest space with another tower block and no outdoor sports facilities, thereby depriving further generations of children of green space. Alternatively for a net £18m they could build a low-level school surrounded by green space and sports facilities.

The wider community wants use of less than ten per cent of one of Portobello's numerous public parks for future generations and it happens to make total economic sense for the rest of the city.

Stephen McIntyre, Portobello High Street, Edinburgh





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  • Last Updated: 12 May 2008 8:47 AM
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Scots Man,

12/05/2008 12:25:14
I don't undestand the problem people have with a plastic bag tax. We all agree that overproduction of plastic bags is a problem, so let's work towards a solution rather than bickering.

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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:43:40
"Included in that report were the statistics that nearly 70 per cent of plastic carrier bags were re-used for a variety of uses."

Which is what I've been saying all along.

However, you can't let common sense get in the way of the desire to knee-jerk. Can you?
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Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:48:58
Scots man,

The solution is already there. It's called free plastic shopping bags. If you take them away then people will have to buy bags for uses such as bin liners and for general use around the home. The amount of waste will remain the same.

If there is a real concern about plastic waste then maybe it would be more effective to address the issue of excess packaging on products. When you buy a pen, for instance, you do not need it to come in a clear, hard plastic case that has been heat-sealed, with a good quality cardboard insert and a high quality paper instruction book that tells you not to wash the pen in the dish-washer.

Address that issue first and then I might have a bit of time for the anti-plastic-bag brigade.
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Dragonlord,

12/05/2008 12:58:24

No-one ever claimed ID cards are the only answer to terrorism or crime.



That's as maybe, but the UK government uses the fear of terrorism every day. Keep the people in fear and you can introduce any law you like. ID cards are a waste of money. Gangs of criminals never mind terrorist will simply forge them and sell them to anyone with enough money.
Blair taking us to war with Bush has put this counrty ( well englandshire) are more risk than anyone else.
The simple solution is to get Independance and distance ourselves from the warmongers in London and the USA.
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Unimpressed one,

12/05/2008 13:15:43
#1, "We all agree that overproduction of plastic bags is a problem"

Who's this 'we' you refer to? The eco-luddites? The useless MSPs and their lackeys who want to score easy points by introducing yet more loony regulations? Probably not ordinary consumers who are taxed to the hilt at every turn and whose concern on "plastic bag overproduction" is just above watching paint dry in their list of priorities. Get a life.
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STOP...... Hammer Time!,

12/05/2008 20:38:44
"No-one ever claimed ID cards are the only answer to terrorism or crime"

Yet the government has singularly failed to cite an example where national identity cards would have prevented a terrorist attack. So they have failed to demonstrate that they are even part of the solution.
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STOP...... Hammer Time!,

12/05/2008 20:49:54
"ID cards are like passports – the fees cover the operational costs of producing them. If there is no card, there is no money to spend on anything else."

Utter garbage! The 'fees' are nothing other than a tax imposed by a central government to administer the scheme. A tax is a tax is a tax... no matter what spin any politician attempts to put on it.
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