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Forth Road Bridge: 'It is unthinkable that there would be no alternative'



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Published Date: 12 August 2008
THE news that the Forth Road Bridge may have a longer life span than had been feared is encouraging. But it should not be taken as a signal that the process of planning a replacement crossing should be slowed or even halted.
Although the rate of corrosion in the bridge's main cables might not be as bad as first thought, the reality is that the true position will not be known until 2011 or 2012 when they are re-inspected. Only then will it be possible to see how effe
ctive the dehumidification process has been and give a more accurate assessment of the life span of the present structure. Until then the work should proceed as planned and as if nothing has happened, with the aim of beginning construction in 2011.

Opponents of the building of a second crossing would doubtless like politicians to sit tight for three years and await the outcome of this further study before more work is done, but the risks involved are too great.

Until proven otherwise, there has to be a presumption that another crossing is required and the preparatory work needs to continue to avoid the situation whereby a new crossing is still needed but three years have been lost and costs have escalated beyond the current estimate of £4 billion.

Should the bridge have to close by around 2019 as was originally forecast – and to freight at an earlier stage – it is unthinkable that there would be no alternative crossing in place at this point on the river.

On the other hand a favourable outcome will only serve to confuse the issue and re-ignite the debate over whether a second crossing is needed.

Certainly if the life span is considerably extended it will be difficult to justify the cost of building another bridge. And it would be very wrong to do so if the primary reason was based on the need to handle growing traffic volumes alone.

A second working bridge would only serve to fuel a further massive expansion of house building in Fife, leading to thousands more people commuting into Edinburgh and adding considerably to congestion in and around the city.

But while the result is uncertain it is in everyone's best interests to proceed as planned. It could be in 2011 that the Government finds itself with considerably more time to play with but until then it would be foolish not to plan for the doomsday scenario of needing to begin construction right away.

In such troubled economic times, no-one should be prepared to gamble with the future of such a vital piece of infrastructure.





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1

no more roads,

Edinburgh 12/08/2008 12:28:24
The chief engineer has said he is highly confident that cable drying will arrest the corrosion. This means that the bridge can be fixed for just £10.3m, saving taxpayers £4.2bn which John Swinney and his pals in the Johnstone Press dont want them to save.
2

Road Raga,

EDINBURGH 12/08/2008 12:43:09
Edinburgh and Fife managed hundreds of years without a road bridge. The only thing it has done is make it easier for people to commute from Fife by car, which is hardly a good thing.
3

Man of Reason,

12/08/2008 12:47:21
#1 if you had a business in Fife then "highly confident" would not be good enough to ditch plans for a new crossing - we need absolute certainty.

Even then, a new crossing will eliminate delays due to maintenance and high winds - something that may not seem significant to you but is very important to anyone who relies on the bridge for their livelihood.

Do we want to live in a country with decent, modern infrastructure or just fade away into an economic backwater?
4

no more roads,

Edinburgh 12/08/2008 12:54:33
Businesses in Fife should not rely on subsidised private car routes for their viability. There is absolute certainty: the chief engineer says he's "highly confident" cable drying will work, as it's being used on 16 other suspension bridge worldwide. Extensive transport research shows that the new crossing will worsen congestion. I want to live in a country where finance and transport ministers do not lie about the need for roads in order to win office - that's corrupt.
5

Heretic_,

12/08/2008 13:01:20
#4
Where might I read this "extensive transport research" that shows a new crossing will worsen congestion?
6

D Napier,

12/08/2008 20:48:53
#1. FETA have reported that the main cables on the Bridge have already lost approximately 10% of their strength. The dehumidification system will not be completed for at least another year and it will then take a couple of years to dry out the cables.

Only in 2011/12, when the cables are opened up again will FETA know if the dehumidification has been successful.

The dehumidification system will not fix the corrosion which has already happend it will just stop it from getting worse, so we will still have a bridge with main cables which have lost 10+% of their strength and which has to carry ever increasing traffic loading. Remember - the bridge already carries in excess of twice the load it was designed to. Therefore, we need another bridge.
7

geekpie,

forfar 13/08/2008 10:19:17
"Until proven otherwise, there has to be a presumption that another crossing is required and the preparatory work needs to continue"

As we don't really know what the preparatory work is, and its expense relative to the increased costs of a delayed bridge or a construction later than forecast, it is impossible to say if this statement stands up or not.
8

Thomas J,

Dunfermline 13/08/2008 18:45:19
How refreshing to have a new bridgemaster who does not engage in politicking but instead simply states engineering facts.

Let us hope that the provisional studies for a new bridge can be abandoned and some of the £100 million that is currently being spent on this can be saved.

Perhaps we should look at the option of enhancing the bridge as has been done on a suspension bridge of a similar age at Lisbon.

The 25th of April bridge in Lisbon was built in 1966 and like the Forth Road Bridge had 4 car-lanes; 2 in each direction, with a dividing rail. In July 1990 this dividing rail was removed and a fifth reversible lane was created to accommodate peak traffic requirements. In November 1998 the side walls were extended and reinforced to make space for the present six lanes.

Cars crossing the bridge make a peculiar hum as two of the lanes are metallic platforms instead of asphalt. Naturally there is no need to dig up and resurface these lanes every two years as seems to be the case with the Forth bridge.

Since June 1999 the lower platform has carried two railway tracks. To accommodate this, the bridge underwent extensive structural reinforcements, including a second set of main cables, placed above the original set, and the main towers were increased in height. The rail line had been part of the initial design, but was eliminated for economy, and the initial structure had been lightened. Original builder American Bridge Company was called again for the job, performing the first aerial spinning of additional main cables on a loaded, fully operational suspension bridge.

Given that he Forth Road Bridge has had 5 major strenthening modifications since it was built it might be that some of the work undertaken in Lisbon might not be necessary.

Send for The American Bridge Company!
9

no more roads,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 23:15:58
Heretic: it's contained in SACTRA - Standing Advisory Committee on Trunk Roads Assessment, 1994. I'll look for the link... or u could google that! Even Blair admitted in his letter to road pricing petitioners that we cant simply build more roas as they quickly fill up with traffic.
10

no more roads,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 23:22:15
D Napier: cable drying has already started and is already being used on 16 other bridges worldwide. When engineers say things like "we have a high degree of confidence that cable drying will work" it means they are pretty certain; they have to sleep at night and they wouldn't be able to if there was any serious doubt. It's significant that the government is now desperately trying to bully Feta to get back on message as their honest engineering opinions are threatening the case for a new bridge.
11

Regular visitor,

In Edinburgh 22/08/2008 23:48:25
Well.... it wont last forever and replacing it wont get any cheaper. No easy answer but traffic loads are surely likely to only increase. An opportunity to fully integrate it into the general improvements of Edinburgh roads?
12

Desperately Seeking.......a solution,

28/08/2008 14:38:34
who wrote this cr*p ?? Probably D Napier.....

 

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