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Published Date: 03 October 2009
IT'S the prestigious post overseeing one of the biggest engineering projects ever built in Edinburgh.
But transport bosses today came under fire after it emerged the £110,000-a-year project director for the new Forth crossing will be based in Glasgow.

Transport Scotland is advertising the job of heading up the £2 billion project as an "opportunity of unprecedented scale". The government agency said the successful candidate would need to be able to deliver the project despite "high levels of public scrutiny" and "intense media pressure".

But its decision to base the role at Transport Scotland's Glasgow base has drawn criticism.

Margaret Smith, Liberal Democrat MSP for Edinburgh West, said: "Clearly, I would expect the project director for a project of this size to spend a fair amount of their time on site. This is the biggest infrastructure project Scotland has ever seen. It can't really be handled from 50 miles away.

"It's a Transport Scotland post, so they will have to be spending part of their time in Glasgow. But certainly, what we would expect is somebody not spending all their time behind a desk in Glasgow but actually here on the ground."

Tory Lothians MSP Gavin Brown said: "I'd have thought a project director needs to be on the ground as much as possible, particularly given the concerns of residents on both sides of the Forth.

"I would describe the handling of the project so far as patchy. They have done some things fairly well, but have been criticised by residents' groups. Some of the engagement (with residents] could have been better."

The decision to use an English headhunting company – London-based Rockpools – to lead the search, instead of a Scottish firm, also came under fire from Scottish Tories.

The parliamentary process to pass the bridge bill is expected to begin this year, with construction starting in 2011. The crossing, estimated to cost £1.7-£2.3bn, is expected to be finished by 2016.

Earlier this week it emerged the project had attracted just two potential bidders because of fears over cost increases and funding. Industry experts said other firms had been frightened off by potentially having to shoulder unexpected cost increases in the giant fixed-price contract.

A Transport Scotland spokesman said: "The advertisement clearly states the project director for the Forth Replacement Crossing will work initially in Glasgow, given that is where Transport Scotland is headquartered.

"As the project moves towards delivery, it is likely the project director and his team will spend a significant amount of time in Edinburgh and eventually on site, both as the bill is guided through the parliamentary process and as construction progresses."


Prepare for 'world's most expensive bus lane'

THE FORTH Road Bridge could become the "world's most expensive bus lane", campaigners warned.

Transport chiefs want to use the existing bridge as a dedicated public transport corridor once the new crossing is built.

But Queensferry and District Community Council, which represents residents living close to the site of the new bridge, called on the Scottish Government to keep the existing bridge open to cars and light vans.

The organisation also called for a direct link between the new bridge and the M9 motorway.

Tom Martin, the organisation's chairman, said: "There is a real danger that the existing bridge will have the doubtful distinction of being the world's most expensive bus lane.

"We are taking a national view."

www.transportscotland.gov.uk/projects/forth-replacement-crossing

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  • Last Updated: 03 October 2009 11:49 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges
 
1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 03/10/2009 12:07:09
Does it really matter where the man is based,can he do the job is what counts.
2

Pantaloon,

03/10/2009 12:11:40

Any senior managerial post will always be based at an HQ building.

You can be 'based' anywhere, but still spend most of the time on a site.
3

Mallory,

Edinburgh 03/10/2009 12:23:40
Just as long as the project management has nothing to do with the clowns who oversaw and built the Scottish Parliament or those involved with 'managing' the trams fiasco.
4

eDUCATIon,

03/10/2009 13:01:47
#4 Gregor Toley

So its OK for the monthly visits to "view" the new double decker trams that are being constructed. Could the builders not email a few photos over?
5

Doctor Bloodsplatter,,

03/10/2009 13:35:11
I can see this being another Parliament building / Edinburgh Trams fiasco.
6

AndyfromPerth,

Derby 03/10/2009 13:38:46
#4 - £2billion and you are worried about travel and subsistance costs. Put yourself forward as Project Manager. Don't forget to plan for your caravan pitch fees!!
7

inExile,

in my chair 03/10/2009 14:31:28
Could we arrange a campaign to eliminate the Alfredo gezzer, what an iratating git! Bloody sweetie wifie....
8

eDUCATIon,

03/10/2009 17:20:27
13

Heading South, you have to come off the M9 at junction 2 to access the Bridge which involves a rat run through a few villages.

As far as the new A8000 goes, think of it as another half-assed job courtesy of the powers that Govern here.
9

FF,

Edinburgh 03/10/2009 17:50:42
It would be sensible before committing at least £2 billion to this project to establish whether the old bridge is actually falling down.
10

D Napier,

03/10/2009 19:14:54
#15. FF.

The existing bridge carries over double the amount of traffic it was designed to carry - FACT.

FETA are currently installing a dehumidification system on the main cables but it will be another 2 years before the cables are dried out and then they have to open them up to inspect them before they will know if this has succeeded in reducing the rate of corrosion in the main cables. Even it it is successful, the cables are already estimated to have lost approximately 10% of their strength.

So, if the Government waits until the results of this work are known we could end up in the situation where the existinmg Bridge has to close to HGV's and a new Bridge will not be ready until 5-6 years later. What effect do you think this would have on the Scottish economy???????
11

Class On Grass,

Stirling Bridge stirring 03/10/2009 20:09:09

.. Or move jobs, capital etc to Stirling, where a smaller bridge could be placed and allow beter access to the North.
12

thetraminator,

thefuture 03/10/2009 20:41:49
Well lets face it, you will never get the quality of candidate you want if they have to live in Edinburgh. It is probably better that he is based in Glasgow. Hope on the M8 and take that new road straight to the bridge site. Far quicker than trying to get from an office in Edinburgh.

thetraminator.wordpress.com

PS. tip from the future. The bridge is never built. The firth of forth actual dries up and they build a straightforward road across it. The water that had flowed in is all being bottled and sold to the English who have since learnt how to wash.
13

CRAGman,

04/10/2009 00:45:12
Actually, the main point is that ANOTHER BRIDGE IS NOT REQUIRED!
14

D Napier,

04/10/2009 07:30:17
#19. CRAGman.

Please justify your statement.
15

FF,

Edinburgh 04/10/2009 08:55:18
#16 Napier. I accept, as you point out, that the Bridge MIGHT BE falling down, but that's not the same as IS falling down or PROBABLY IS falling down.

The difference is important because the £2 billion is basically the cost of repair. As I say, it would be sensible to find out if a repair on this scale is actually necessary.
16

Dood,

04/10/2009 09:15:03
So it's the biggest engineering project ever to be undertaken in Edinburgh, eh?

Technically not actually. Does the Forth Road Bridge not provide a link from the south to the north of Scotland? In which case is it not a Scottish rather than an Edinburgh project? Or perhaps it's a Fife project rather than an Edinburgh project. Is it not the case that the bridge falls into Fife's jurisdiction anyway?

And, as pointed out by someone earlier, is it not a SCANDAL that the Edinburgh Evening News, The Scotsman and the Scotland on Sunday, all East of Scotland newspapers, will now be printed in the WEST OF SCOTLAND at a loss of 100 EDINBURGH jobs? Perhaps the EEN would like to run a story on that scandal?

Or perhaps we should all stop buying newspapers from Johnston Press on account of the fact that they have degenerated into complete rags with juvenile, ill informed journalism.
17

D Napier,

04/10/2009 20:21:40
#21. FF.

Valid points, but have you considered the extent of the disruption which will be experienced during any such "repair" works. This has already been investigated and the report makes interesting reading. Years of disruption = disaster for the economy of Scotland.
18

DogHouse,

05/10/2009 01:14:17
irnically this story from the Edinburgh paper that wants to relocate its printing to glasgow!!!

come on EEN dont treat us like fools, i feel very patonised byt his article.
19

truthsleuth,

06/10/2009 00:00:38
A complete waste of money
If 70,000per day use it it will cost £1 for each of them in subsidy from the taxpayer ratepayer in interest charges alone.

As i have said many times before let those who want it form a private company to build and operate it.
Anyone (especially those who promote it) could buy shares in it. Purchase of the shares would entitle them to a certain number of toll free trips each year.

All others would be required to pay tolls for use of the bridge.

Lets hear from you - how many shares would you buy at £1 each?

20

scottishcoffindodgerno1,

Tram City 21/11/2009 17:44:59
16#Only on the fife side have 25% the edinburgh side 25%,the rest is over water so we can claim salvage rights and sell the middle 50% for scrap,sounds like agood idea dood

 

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