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Windbreaks plan to put brakes on bridge blockers



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Published Date: 13 June 2008
THE Forth Road Bridge could get windbreaks to tackle the problem of lorry drivers ignoring warnings not to cross.
A feasibility study is to be carried out into installing the shields on a small section of the 42-year-old bridge.

It comes after drivers have faced delays of up to two hours on approach roads during strong winds, as police deal with high-sided v
ehicles attempting to cross. Bridge operator FETA has been powerless to stop lorry drivers ignoring the warnings since the bridge tollbooths were demolished.

Engineers had previously ruled out such a measure on the whole bridge, but it is thought it will be possible on the section near the two main towers.

The last two lorries blown over on the bridge were felled at this point and it is hoped the shields, which are commonplace on more modern bridges such as the second Severn Crossing, will help address this.

The moves were welcomed today by road and haulier groups. Phil Flanders, the Road Haulage Association's director for Scotland, said: "This seems to be a sensible move and will go someway to addressing the problem, though it is worth noting that the vast majority of our members do obey the warnings and don't cross during high winds.

"There is a knock-on effect for all motorists when a high-sided vehicle is blown over, but for hauliers you are looking at a 40-mile diversion and it can cause real problems.

"It is good to see this committee coming forward with some good, pragmatic ideas."

Another idea being considered by FETA is for new variable messaging signs to be installed on the M9 Spur and A90.

Neil Greig, head of policy in Scotland for the Institute of Advanced Motorists, said: "It is certainly an interesting one and anything that can help to reduce the number of closures has to be welcomed.

"It was always the case that the old bridge could not have these wind shields – which work really well on more modern bridges – retro-fitted.

"If it is the case that we can now get these fitted in some way, then I think it will help on the borderline days when it is touch or go as to whether the bridge has to close because of the wind.

"What we still need, however, is more enforcement on the ground in terms of getting the message across to lorry drivers so they are not taking the risk and crossing the bridge when the wind is strong."

The "high-winds" action group set-up to tackle the problem has also recommended transferring powers to allow FETA officers to stop and divert traffic during high winds, instead of the police.

It also suggested introducing a mandatory 30mph speed limit on the approaches to the bridge during high winds, using CCTV for a name and shame campaign set up for repeat offenders, and establishing an emergency update radio station for the Forth area.

A FETA spokesman said: "It is very early days but there is the recommendation to look into the feasibility of installing wind shields at the main towers.

"We know it is not feasible to install the shields along the whole span of the bridge, but it may be possible for more localised barriers."





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  • Last Updated: 13 June 2008 12:08 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Forth Bridges
 
1

Incandescent,

13/06/2008 12:56:21
The box-girder design was originally conceived to allow the wind through the structure while still being light and strong enough to bear the anticipated loads. Anything that increases the wind load could be very dodgy indeed. Perhaps better to ticket the offending drivers with as heavy a fine as legally possible for obstructing the queens highway by willfully ignoring the warning signs. Some minor legislation might be necessary, but it would be a lot cheaper and wouldn't adversely affect everyone using the bridge.
2

Ferry Resident,

13/06/2008 13:22:54
Bridge operator FETA has been powerless to stop lorry drivers ignoring the warnings since the bridge tollbooths were demolished.

There was never tolls on the north side of the bridge and they managed to control south bound traffic during high winds. So what is the problem now?
3

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13/06/2008 13:30:55
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13/06/2008 13:38:22
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alex paterson,

embra 13/06/2008 13:38:28
It will act like a sail and blow the bridge and lorries into the Forth.
6

Incandescent,

13/06/2008 13:44:00
#2 The problem is constant disingenuous sniping at the toll abolition at every excuse. Just like they blame the northbound delays on abolition of the tools, whereas it is clearly because, rather than simply take the booths away and have an uninterrupted carriageway, some mastermind decided to install a bizarre chicane system.
7

Hmm ...,

13/06/2008 14:00:38
... sorry Incandescent (1) - the Tay Road Bridge is box girder - the Forth is a suspension bridge, so called because it is supported by suspended cables.

I suspect that a present lack of adequate policing is responsible for trucks not abusing the wind restrictions.

But if it is possible to protect traffic on te bridge and prevent its routine closure in high winds, why was this not fitted years ago - when the second Severn crossing was built with windbreaks in place?
8

Spout,

13/06/2008 14:14:24
Why not ensure that this is classified as a criminal offence and have large fines in place for the selfish drivers who ignore the warnings? Make them on the spot fines as well to give the police the powers to arrest these idiots.
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11+failed,

the pans 13/06/2008 14:41:55
"the shields, which are commonplace on more modern bridges such as the second Severn Crossing, will help address this"
Typical of FETA stuffed with dead beat cooncillors. Wait till the cables are 20% rusted before they think about corrosion, stop the trucks every time the wind blows, always operating behind the game.
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11+failed,

the pans 13/06/2008 14:44:40
One wonders what FETA do now that their main preoccupation, counting the toll money, has disappeared!
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13/06/2008 15:13:17
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Jehovah,

13/06/2008 16:02:30
#1 I think you'll find the Forth Road Bridge has an open truss design rather than a box girder. I know what you mean though.

My reading of this is that FETA are going to look into thsi to see whether this is possible - I'm sure they will consider whether the structure can take the additional wind load as part of this.
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Jehovah,

13/06/2008 16:04:30
#6 Who exactly are "they"?
14

Jehovah,

13/06/2008 16:07:37
#10 It looks like they have been looking at ways to reduce the risk of lorries blowing over...
15

D Napier,

13/06/2008 16:37:58
#6 Incandescent. Exactly where is this chicane system???

When I drove through the former plaza area last night there were 2 lanes for the A90 with a sliproad joining as at a normal dual carriageway.
16

The Geniune Mario Antionette,

13/06/2008 17:51:12
#11 - So do the Dutch
17

11+failed,

13/06/2008 18:16:41
14 Jehovah,
Exactly my point, they have been blowing over since 1968!
18

me150,

13/06/2008 19:41:39
And of course we will all pay for this, not just the road users.....bring back the tolls!!
19

ddmc,

13/06/2008 20:42:36
i like dutch cheeses :D
20

Julian.,

edinburgh 14/06/2008 04:02:42
#17

Yes, and if they are powerless to stop the lorries crossing since the tolls were removed how exactly did they stop them travelling south when the tolls were around?
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fmuldar,

New Jersey, USA 14/06/2008 04:11:22
Just do what The Bridge & Tunnel Authority do here!
At the beginning of the Forth Bridge have a large cement girder that can be swung when high winds notices are broadcast--& held down with metal straps---it is high enough for cars too pass under--but too low for trucks too pass!
They will soon learn--"DO NOT TRY TOO PASS DURING HIGH WINDS"!

 

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