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Published Date: 24 April 2007
HE CARRIED a little leather-bound book of Burns with him in the courtroom and could recite many of his works by heart. But when Abraham Lincoln was asked to encapsulate what Scotland's national poet meant to him, he was almost lost for words.
The American president, and author of the Gettysburg Address, confessed: "Thinking of what he has said, I can not say anything which seems worth saying."

The note, written by Lincoln to the Burns Club in Washington in 1865, was penned in response
to a request from the White House tutor Alexander Williamson, a Scot, who asked the president for "the honour of your recognition of the genius of Scotland's bard, by either a toast, a sentiment, or in any other way you may deem proper".

Lincoln's first version reads: "I can not frame a toast to Burns. I can say nothing worthy of his generous heart, and transcendent genius. A. Lincoln."

The second, expanded version, penned beneath, reads: "I can not frame a toast to Burns. I can say nothing worthy of his generous heart and transcending genius. Thinking of what he has said, I can not say anything which seems worth saying. A. Lincoln."

According to an explanatory note, the "grievous cares" of his office prevented Lincoln from attending the Burns night but, on an earlier occasion, the centenary of the poet's birth in 1859, he was said to have attended a celebration when revellers drank "mountain dew" and "a large number of mysterious bottles circulated freely".

Lincoln was introduced to the poetry of Burns as a child by the Scottish-American Jack Kelso and could recite works, including Tam O' Shanter, by heart. Milton Hay, who was a clerk in his Springfield law office, once told a reporter that Lincoln "could quote Burns by the hour. I have been with him in that little office and heard him recite with the greatest admiration and zest Burns' ballads and quaint things".

The official biography of the president, which gave an approved account of his life, said: "When practising law before his election to Congress, a copy of Burns was his inseparable companion on the circuit; and this he pursued so constantly, that it is said he now has by heart every line of his favourite poet."

Such was the president's enthusiasm, he dreamed of visiting Ayr to see the poet's birthplace.

Remarking on the busts of Shakespeare and Burns in his office, Lincoln told James Grant Wilson, editor of Chicago's first literary magazine: "They are my two favourite authors, and I must manage to see their birthplaces some day if I can contrive to cross the Atlantic."

The note to the Burns Club in Washington goes on sale in New York on 22 May and is expected to raise £6,000.

It is part of the manuscript collection of the late publisher Malcolm Forbes, which is being sold in six separate sales at Christie's.

Reflecting the millionaire publisher's lifelong fascination for the handwritten works of United States presidents, the collection includes a draft of John F Kennedy's inaugural address, Lincoln's last presidential address and the opera glasses he was clutching the night he died.

Albert Einstein's letter to Franklin D Roosevelt urging the US to begin research on nuclear weapons and Lincoln's call for former slaves to be allowed to vote were also acquired by the publisher, who was said to have bid at every important auction of historic documents from the 1960s until his death in 1990.

Forbes, whose collection of nine Faberge eggs was sold for £100 million in 2004, said: "A letter penned in the hand of a president is a far better portrait of the man than a photograph or a painting."

The publisher said of his collection: "Documents remind us that these are more than historical figures - they were people pouring out their hopes, sadnesses, reactions and directions on to paper.

"Their letters and documents are what make flesh and blood of key figures in our country's history."

POVERTY TO POWER

ABRAHAM Lincoln was born in 1809 and grew up in poverty in a one-room shack in Kentucky - but became one of America's greatest presidents.

The Republican leader took the United States to victory in the Civil War and helped unite the country at Gettysburg with his call for: "Government of the people, by the people, for the people."

Believing that "all men are created equal", Lincoln was a lifelong opponent of slavery, which was abolished under his leadership. He was assassinated in 1865.

POET OF THE PEOPLE

ROBERT Burns' birth in Alloway, Ayrshire, in 1759, came half a century before that of Abraham Lincoln. And the author of A Man's A Man For A' That died in 1796, aged 37, so the pair's lifespans did not overlap - yet their attitudes had much in common.

Credited as an influence on the Romantic movement and in the birth of socialism, Burns fell out of favour after becoming too vocal in his support for the French Revolution.

His final years were marked by ill-health and financial difficulties.



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  • Last Updated: 25 April 2007 9:00 AM
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1

Scullion,

Canada 24/04/2007 00:48:18

Both men will live forever for their ability to do marvels with the English language.
Lincoln's letter to Mrs. Bixby (contested), his Gettyburg Address and his first and second inaugral addresses are perhaps the finest pieces of English prose ever written or spoken.

2

Freeman Stand,

24/04/2007 00:51:00

As Abe Lincoln once said, "You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Are you listening Jack Mc Connell, Tony Blair and all of your lying New Labour colleagues? You are fooling very few people now.

3

Skirvy,

Auld Reek 24/04/2007 03:08:00

#1, since when did Rab Burns speak English? LOL

4

tkscothk,

Hong Kong 24/04/2007 04:21:30

Rab Burns, although he spoke and wrote in Scots, could compose the most beautiful and haunting prose in English (see the contrasting language used in Tam O' Shanter).

5

Quebec Anglo,

Quebec City, Canada 24/04/2007 05:24:38

#2, I believe that saying to be apocryphal, though it's clever enough that its real originator deserves to be remembered.

6

Guga,

Rockall 24/04/2007 05:36:50

#2 You're forgetting one thing. Bliar and the New Labour numpties work on the principle that "you can fool most of the people, most of the time".

7

Alberto.,

24/04/2007 06:48:09

I understand that the well known phrase ' What a wonderful web we have to weave - when first we set out to deceive!' (or similar!)

For many moons this has been attributed to the Bard, but seemingly, the rights have now been claimed by New Labour as they feel sure they are much better at deceiving and weaving than Robert Burns could ever have imagined!

If nothing else, at least we have seen one thing they have excelled at during their reign of improvement, although I am slightly at a loss as to whose lot they have improved better than their own!

Perhaps it's really all a dream?

8

LochLomond,

Balloch 24/04/2007 06:57:58

2 and 6 what have your comments got to do with Burns and Lincoln? Go away and canvas or something.

Numpties indeed!

9

GP,

24/04/2007 07:00:15

6# you are wrong.

They just don't care about fooling anyone anymore they take it for granted that the numpties will vote for red.
They are most probably correct as will be evidenced in the coming elections.
In some quarters mostly the heavily subsidy junkiy areas a rossette could win purely by being red.

10

jamesfm,

24/04/2007 08:31:06

#7 Victor, the quotation is "Oh what a tangled web we weave, When first we practise to deceive!"

Sadly, not attributed to Burns. It's Sir Walter Scott, from Marmion. Still a good and appropriate quote, though...

11

Boy Wonder,

24/04/2007 08:33:49

#7 Victor. The words are Sir Walter Scott's ... from "Marmion", some of his most quoted (and most often mis-attributed) lines. Canto VI. Stanza 17 reads:

Yet Clare's sharp questions must I shun,
Must separate Constance from the nun
Oh! what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive!
A Palmer too! No wonder why
I felt rebuked beneath his eye;

Yet another great Scot with a master of words. Scott is credited by some with inventing the modern novel.

Burns' poetry is in Scots, and achieves it's full-flowering in that language, but translated into English, his works lose nothing of their power to captivate and hold you forever.

Two of the world's greatest literary geniuses.

12

Angus McIonnach,

Embra 24/04/2007 10:52:37

A thread about Burns goes from zero to 'Bliar' in two posts.

Old Lady at Bus Stop: "Nice Weather we're having"

Pavlovian: "YEAH! No thanks to BLIAR and his ILLEGAL War!!"

Old Lady: [clutches handbag worriedly]

13

Doh,

24/04/2007 12:08:49

#2

Yes but remember Abe Lincoln fought to keep the Union.
Sorry.

14

Scullion,

Canada 24/04/2007 12:38:46

#3

I'm truly sorry man's dominion,
Has broken nature's social union,
An' justifies that ill opinion,
Which makes thee startle
At me, thy poor, earth-born companion,
An' fellow-mortal!
"To a Mouse..."
Beautifully put-and in relatively standard English. He used the Scots dialect of English but it's English nevertheless.

15

Steven M.,

24/04/2007 14:43:53

Lincoln quote of the day:

"All this talk about the dissolution of the Union is humbug -- nothing but folly. We WON'T dissolve the Union, and you SHAN'T."

--From the July 23, 1856 Speech at Galena, Illinois

16

Marcus MacLean, Edinburgh,

24/04/2007 15:07:04

After Thomas Jefferson, Lincoln has contributed more to the conservative movement than any other president. The fact that he was an avid fan of Burns reflects how much of a conservative Burns was.

For too long, socialists have been allowed to hold up "a man's a man", along with other Burns works, as tenents of socialism. In fact, the poem rails against monarchy - the ultimate symbol of the strong state, and promotes individual freedoms and liberties. He supported the French revolution, which, like the American revolution, was the harbringer of "libertie" in the form of free markets, freedom from state intervention and meritocracy.

My favourite Lincoln quote? "You cannot embigen the small by shortening the tall. You cannot enrich the poor by impoverishing the rich."

17

Patrick Scott Hogg,

Scotland 24/04/2007 15:46:41

As an author who has edited the works of Burns is it great to see his genius was appreciated by an American President so much - too often we at home sing his praises but do not fully acknowledge the complex radical genius he was. As to politicians - well, I knew McConnell at Uni and Sheridan. They had no principles then. Burns would have savaged both in biting satire..... Labour lost its souls and humanity years ago! That is why I am an independent candidate for the South of Scotland region at the election! Someone with integrity has to try to start sort out that den of self seeking pocket lining charlatans

18

Sambo,

The deep south 24/04/2007 16:05:49

It's a pity that the stupid "mercury cure" took his life so prematurely. Just think what he could have written should he have lived another 30 years.

19

Freeman Stand,

24/04/2007 17:01:10

#15. Lincoln might have been a unionist, but Burns was a Nationalist.

In a letter to Mrs Dunlop ( 10th April 1790 ), after over eighty years of political union with England, he asked “What are all the boasted advantages which my country reaps from a certain Union, that can counterbalance the annihilation of her independence and even her very name ……I believe in my conscience such ideas as My Country, her independence, her honour.”

20

Patrick Scott Hogg,

Scotland 24/04/2007 18:52:50

Well quoted Freeman Stand! Burns also wrote that "politics is a science wherewith by means of nefarious cunning and hypocritical pretense we manage civil politics for the emolument of ourselves and our adherents". To A Cunningham, 1793. We need rid of NEPOTISM and CORRUPTION that rots our democracy and is the kernel reason why many folk dont vote - politicians turn them off. RB was a lot smarter than every mediocre politician we have now. I hope Alex is up to the job. Jack only ever stood for himself - I asked him once what he stood for when at univ wi him and he replied "I stand for ME and ME alone!"

21

Patrick Scott Hogg,

Scotland 24/04/2007 18:57:12

Marcus McLean come on! Burns was not a conservative by any tortured means of evidence! He wrote to a radical paper saying “Go on Sir! Lay bear with undaunted heart &steady hand that horrid mass of corruption called Politics & State Craft! “

He attacked Pitt for going to war with France -
“To pillory… the rank reprobation of character, the utter dereliction of all principle, in a profligate junto …to deliver such over to their merited fate is surely not merely innocent but laudable…”

A Man's A Man is way above the so-called socialists in SCotland just now - they take their models from defunct Russian failures. The leading light of the SCottish left? T Sheridan?

Robert Burns criticism of Pitt's government is apt even today for McConnell's mediocre crew:
“But faith! I muckle doubt, my SIRE
Ye’ve trusted ‘Ministration
To chaps wha in a barn or byre
Wad better fill’d their station
Than courts yon day …””

22

Patrick Scott Hogg,

Scotland 24/04/2007 19:00:42

Marcus is right tho that Burns did agree with merit being rewarded. Some of the mouths of the Scottish left could do with a shot of Burns's REASON and INTELLECT and HUMANITY - and in the case of Sheridan HONESTY. A Man's A Man is a democratic marching anthem that wanted the demolition of the feudal order. FREEDOM was everything to Burns and YES freedom from such high taxation. He was a fan of Adam Smith - and even SMITH said very high taxation would lead to a rebellion among the people.

23

Marcus MacLean,

24/04/2007 20:52:29

Thanks Patrick. Yes, when I said "conservatism", I was talking about modern conservatism, which Lincoln, Jefferson and Adam Smith all played a part in inventing. He didn't like the Tories of that time, but that was a party of protectionist trade policies (see the Corn Laws) and an all-powerful, centralised state authority - much like the SNP and Labour today.

24

Joanna,

24/04/2007 21:13:09

Robert Burns also wrote this song, it seems that like many wise people before and since he bent his politics to suit the prevailing wind.

With a possible threat of invasion by Napoleon, Robert Burns, a representative of the government as result of his position as an excise officer, played a prominent part in the formation of the Dumfries Volunteers which included writing this song:

Does Haughty Gaul Invasion Threat?

1.
Does haughty Gaul invasion threat?
Then let the loons beware, Sir!
There's wooden walls upon our seas
And volunteers on shore, Sir!
The Nith shall run to Corsincon,
And Criffel sink in Solway,
Ere we permit a foreign foe
On British ground to rally!
2.
O, let us not, like snarling tykes,
In wrangling be divided,
Till, slap! come in a unco loun,
And wi' a rung decide it!
Be Britain still to Britain true,
Amang oursels united!
For never but by British hands
Maun British wrangs be righted!
3.
The kettle o' the Kirk and State,
Perhaps a clout may fail in't;
But Deil a foreign tinkler loon
Shall ever ca' a nail in't!
Our father's blude the kettle bought,
And wha wad dare to spoil it,
By Heav'ns! the sacrilegious dog
Shall fuel be to boil it!
4.
The wretch that would a tyrant own,
And the wretch, his true-sworn brother,
Who would set the mob above the throne,
May they be damn'd together!
Who will not sing God save the King
Shall hang as high's the steeple;
But while we sing God save the King
We'll ne'er forget the People!

25

Rosemarie,

London 24/04/2007 21:34:55

I enjoyed reading that article, thank you, very interesting, wonderful tribute to Robert Burns.

I am hoping the Burns film waiting on the backburner, starring another charismatic and passionate Burns admirer, Gerard Butler will get support and backing from all over the world now, for the 250th birthday celebration. It has to be made, it's the right time. No one will do more justice to the role, he will make Scotland and Robert Burns proud and i hope all of Scotland and Scots around the world will get behind him.

Rose

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ALEXANDRIA Horyski,

Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada 25/04/2007 04:29:50

Thank you for this wonderful article. I am a transplanted Scot and proud of my family Heritage with the Grant Clan.


Robert Burns Scotland's Bard The Man - The Myth - The Legend

At times he was a LOVER and at others he was a LECHER.

At times he was a ROMANTIC and at others he was a REALIST.

He was a NATIONALIST and at times he was an INTERNATIONALIST.

He was at times a RADICAL and at others a REACTIONARY.

Here is a book were are presenting to Scottish Actor Gerard Butler in honor of his future Burns role:


For over 100 years this wonderful Burns book as been passed down through the generations and it passed to me by my Grandfather who told me before he died, to pass it along to a special person who is kind of heart and kind of soul, he made me swear to do it as his last dying wish. He said it has to go to a person who is full of dreams and a soul that touches others at it travels through life, well to me that is Gerard, he has touches so many and continues to touch so many.

My Great Great Grandfather had it with him all during the first World War and he said it kept him sane all through the death and madness of the war, it has seen many a battlefield all through Europe and he prized it above even his cigarettes. He read from it as one of his fellow soliders lay dying on the battle field and held his hand to ease his suffering, so the book as been many places and has been help near to many people's heart in my family and it was sent to Gerard from all of us at Team Burns.

The book is 177 years old and I have read it many times as a child and held great wonder in my eyes.

It is published in 1830 Volume 11 - Poetical Works Of Robert Burns

Please check the wonderful enteries at our 1ST RT Burns Poetry contest at this link:

http://uk.rottentomatoes.com/vine/journal_view.php?journa...


 

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