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HBoS reveals profits fall of 51 per cent



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Published Date: 31 July 2008
HALIFAX Bank of Scotland today said a £1.1 billion hit from the credit crunch saw profits more than halve in the first six months of the year.
Edinburgh-based HBOS reported underlying interim pre-tax profits down 51% at £1.45 billion, against £2.96 billion last year.

The banking giant also said it suffered a 36% leap in bad debts to £1.31 billion in the first half as hard-pressed custome
rs struggled with repayments.

HBOS said its share of new mortgage lending fell from 22% at the end of December to 7% after it pledged to put margins before volumes.

It has repriced new and existing products in order to offset higher funding costs in crippled wholesale money markets.

Around a third of its mortgage portfolio will be repriced this year, said the group.

Earlier this week it emerged that Abbey had overtaken HBOS as the largest lender of new mortgages, with a half-year market share of 26%, while Cheltenham & Gloucester, which is owned by Lloyds TSB, now ranks second with a 24% share.

Underlying pre-tax profits at HBOS's retail banking arm dropped 5% to £992 million.

HBOS reported rising numbers of borrower defaults and warned of higher arrears to come amid the economic slowdown and an expected 15% to 20% fall in house prices over this year and next.

Arrears levels – for borrowers three months or more behind with repayments – rose to 1.95% from 1.67% at the end of last year.

But HBOS said recent moves to bolster the business – including its now completed £4 billion rights issue – would help the bank weather troubles in the sector and wider economy.

Andy Hornby, chief executive of HBOS, said: "The first half of 2008 has seen the dislocation in financial markets evolve into a wider economic slowdown.

"Recognising the importance of strong capital to the HBOS core customer proposition, we have now completed our £4 billion rights issue, rebasing the group to stronger capital ratios.

"We are repricing both new and existing business, to deliver margin stability and the group is now well positioned to operate in the more challenging economic environment."



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1

Bigwull,

edinburgh 31/07/2008 08:08:22
only stole £1.45 billion from customers, my heart bleeds for them
2

It's me!,

31/07/2008 08:09:09
A profit of over £1 billion in six months in what has been the worst banking year for decades doen't seem to be too bad to me. Is the glass half empty or half full?
3

donald,

glasgow 31/07/2008 08:41:31
Banks are just shops full of money with no manufactured goods. And still their greed gets them into trouble.
4

JayJay,

Right here 31/07/2008 08:47:08
My granny used to say we needed wars every generation to weed out the population. In these more emlightened times, it appears what we now need is a good old recession every decade or so - however manufactured.
Except, this situation is entirely of the Banks own making. They relaxed lending criteria, allowed those who could not afford to borrow to borrow too much and, having destroyed their own market, and the world economy in the process, they scuttle off to the Government looking for "help".
Well, with success now measured in growth in profits, these figures are a disaster, and the dafties in the media will dutifully spin tales of woe, collapsing share price and so on. However to make £1.45bn in six months shows that this "credit crunch" malarkay will allow the banks to ramp up the margins whilst becoming more risk averse - and, handily, they can announce bumper redundancies to make sure the profits rise even further next year.
Just as well the sector is regulated!
5

Nic83,

31/07/2008 09:08:42
Re JayJay: What a refreshingly intelligent comment! Shame you don't write this paper! (c:
6

An Greumach Mor,

Highlands 31/07/2008 09:14:58
12 months ago the margin on a normal mortgage from eg. Halifax was 0.3% above repo rate. Now it is 1.2% above repo rate, all small competition has been almost wiped out of the market. Boasting profits and reducing competition for the big 5 lenders.

At the same time they have depreciated their assets for predicted losses that have not yet occurred and I would imagine this transfers to P&L to reduce tax considerably.

All the while claiming it was the Credit Crunch rather than using the correct term as stupid business practice buying NINJA loans in the US when they would never provide such borrowing in the UK.

Watch the Profits the UK banks make over the next 12-24 months. They will be massive. They will claim big bonuses claiming they turned it all around when it truth they are manipulating the credit crunch now.
7

John south of Soutra,

31/07/2008 09:56:29
is everyone else the same as me and fed up with the baks bleating about the "credit crunch" as the problem for all their woes. the so called credit crunch was caused by bad lending through greed and bad management,in smaller companies if managers had made bad decisions like this that cost the companies huge amounts of money they would have been sacked, I have no sympathy with the banks but unfortunately we need them as our whole society is now deoendant on the banking system, but as with the power companies the is collusion to keep prices higher than they should be.
Another part of the problem is the expectation of profit, in recent years this has gone through the roof and now customers are being squeezed and they have nowhere to go as there are no real alternatives, these companies - banks, energy etc are all as bad as each other
8

Navvy,

31/07/2008 10:02:14
Edinburgh based? my hat! The so called head office is an empty shell.

All went down hill after the take over by Halifax since when I have had to use 2 websites for my banking and can no longer post date payments.

All this mess has been driven by short termism and greed. Not the probity for which Scottish bankers used to be renowned
9

Luke Skywalker,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 10:46:02
9 - change to RBS. Excellent user friendly web-site and direct phone to your branch. And no I'm not an RBS employee.
10

Sedov,

Scotland 31/07/2008 10:53:45
Of course if things get much worse for these poor souls they will be asking the tax payer (us) to bail them out again. But will they stop the huge bonuses going to their Chief Executive fat cats ? I think not.
11

Andra, Dundee,

31/07/2008 11:31:52
The banks know what they are doing - they don't look for or need sympathy. And contrary to comment by #4 I'm not aware of them getting help from the government - except that the government want them to lend more to keep the economy going so the government offered them loans in exchange for security.
If you don't like the profits that they make then simply stop using them and spare us your whinging. Is it not the people who borrow money who are greedy? These greedy borrowers should learn to live within their means. If it were not for greedy borrowers we would not have the credit crunch – it’s time people took responsibility for their own actions. We seem to think Government, banks, etc are our nannies.
12

kimba,

31/07/2008 12:07:23
Serves them right,the Halfax was a great bsnk/building society before they joined up with tha bank of scotland!
13

John south of Soutra,

31/07/2008 12:59:16
Yes Andra,people need to take more responsibility for their own actions but please explain to me how someone borrowing money is greedy.
the greedy person is the lender who is/was raking in the interest on the repayments - 28%-34% apr on credit cards anyone.
If the banks had stuck to the lending criteria that they had in the past and also not constantly bombarded us with loan applications we would not be in the situation we are just now.
Will the people who received huge bonuses over the last few years based on the vast profits have to pay any of the back if any of their deals have been written off - no chance.
as # 14 says - 8 x your salary mortgage over 50 years anyone.
I'm sorry but that is greed from the banks and no one else
14

Luke Skywalker,

50 miles south of Dundee 31/07/2008 13:20:12
13 from Dundee - I tend to agree. People should be responsible for their own actions and decisions. In general nowadays we seem to live in a world where whatever happens it was not my fault; someone else is responsible. When I was young etc etc.
15

Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 31/07/2008 14:24:13
Serves them right...I hope there's a run on their greedy bank,that would be Justice, They have far too much power and hold on our hard earned. Bring back weekly wages...
16

nolimits,

Kamloops 31/07/2008 14:36:16
Theres nothing more tempting than 'easy money'.The banks dropped the bait, and reeled in the 'suckers'. Hmm...h*ll of an analogy, but it fits.
17

Resolutions,

31/07/2008 15:44:27
The B o S went downhill after the Halifax appeared on the scene and the Halifax went downhill when it forgot its roots and became a bank with shareholders interests and not investors(GREED again)

What is going on in that institution? It seems everyone I know who banks with them, is having a problem. (Now before some scream change your bank, some folk do not have much choice as the local branch, may be the only bank) The Branches, who seem to have little control, set up things and it does not happen or happens from wrong account etc.

Wish we had a choice - we do need a bank for cash and to get help with attempting to interpret the gobblygook sent out as info!!!
18

JayJay,

Right here 31/07/2008 16:17:16
#13
The banks know what they are doing? Are you for real or are you Fred Goodwin? The banks acted like lemmings, threw historic banking principals out the window, and, in commercial and retail markets, believed the hype that the market could only go one way.
The Government hasn't helped them? £50bn bail out of Northern Rock ring any bells. Whining from the banks that they needed the government to underwrite commercial and residential loans to stimulate the market (code for allow them to pass risk from their shareholders to the taxpayer).
I work in banking my friend. Let me tell you that the mantra for the last few years was lend lend lend. Affordability and bad debts were someone else's look out. There are huge amounts of blame to dole out, but chief culprits were the banks and their regulators. which bit of 125% of value and 8 times salary didn't they understand when it was plastered all over the papers?
19

Andra, Dundee,

31/07/2008 17:05:54
#16 John south of Soutra
I suggest that people who borrow are greedy because they want everything now - and are not willing to save so that they can pay for things with cash. For example if Mr Jones has a massive wide screen telly then greedy Mr Smith must have one too so he pays with plastic.
I draw an important distinction between buying consumables - which I believe should never be bought with borrowed money - and a house which is over time an appreciating asset. However I see the same problem with houses - people think they have the right to buy a nice flat in a nice part of town with no deposit - they are stupid and too lazy to save a deposit.
Common sense tells me that young people should live longer with parents, or live in shared flats and graft for a deposit.
20

Andra, Dundee,

31/07/2008 17:10:49
#21 JayJay, Right here
In business nobody knows the future for sure. The banks (RBS and HBOS) have taken a few losses but they are small compared with long term profits, and their shares will soar over the next few year and so will their profits (bigger margins thanks to less competition, etc). We both agree that 125% loans are risky – you blame the banks – while I blame the numpties who took the loans. However I have no sympathy for the banks and very little for the numpties. You seem to blame the banks despite admitting complicity and showing no remorse!
You say “historic banking principals went out the window” – however this problem occurred in the nineties and before your principals were ditched so I suspect you are just looking to pass blame.
21

JayDeeTee,

31/07/2008 19:48:21
I'm using a buscuit tin now.
22

JayDeeTee,

31/07/2008 19:48:39
Or even a biscuit tin..
23

Greyfriars Bobby,

Edinburgh 31/07/2008 22:11:28
#20 - 30 years with them and very few issues. When I have had charges they've been reimbursed when I talked to them - it's all about relationships you see. I think what we have to take into account is that most things these days are automated and computers aren't that sophisticated (yet). When you have a problem, go in and talk about it - if you generally manage your accounts properly then they're sympathetic. It's not in their interests to annoy you.

#9 - I don't get why you're using two websites, have you spoken to them about it as this seems really odd. I find the Internet banking to be excellent.
24

Minepie47628453,

Alba 31/07/2008 23:39:08
They have only themsleves to blame for this ...
25

Resolutions,

31/07/2008 23:44:14
#26 You have been lucky! Notice it was said until recently!!

We have gone into the Branch - the local staff are excellent, but they sort the errors and someone/ something elsewhere keeps them coming back. The local staff are powerless to deal with this, except to keep trying, which they do with good humour, when they must feel they are dealing with a steel wall!

Trouble is, it appears that virtually everyone who deals with them in this area, is having some sort of problem - it is a talking point. It must be so disheartening for the staff who deserve the massive bonuses, the faceless 'big cats' get.

No problem with the staff - but something, somewhere is very far wrong

 

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