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Trader hits out at £25 'piece of crap' supermarket kilts



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Published Date: 10 January 2008
A LEADING Edinburgh kiltmaker today launched a furious attack on plans to sell £25 kilts at Scottish supermarkets.
Discount superstore chain Lidl will stock the cut-price kilts from January 21, to allow people on a budget to celebrate Burns night.

But Howie Nicholsby, of Geoffrey (Tailor) Kiltmakers on the High Street, described the kilts as 'a piece of crap', and said the move was a 'slap in the face' to Burns which could destroy the kilt's reputation across Europe.

Lidl said the kilts were being provided by "a Scottish supplier", but could not say where they had been made.

Mr Nicholsby, who has previously hit out at "tartan tat" being sold on the Royal Mile, said there was no way they could have been made in Scotland.

"Burns would be turning in his grave at this, and it is not so much a celebration of his heritage as a slap in the face to it," he said.

"These are nothing more than cheap imports, and it is this kind of product which is doing irreparable damage to the industry.

"A good kilt will last a lifetime but that kind of quality costs.

"Anything on the market under £100 is imported, and anything at that kind of price is nothing but a piece of crap.

"It will fall apart after it has been worn once, but the sad thing is Lidl don't care about that – they think it's a way to make a fast buck."

Mr Nicholsby also suggested Holyrood should appeal to the EU to give Scottish tartan and Scottish-made kilts protected status.

He said: "Currently you get kilts 'designed in Scotland', but manufactured in India, and yet some people will think they are traditional Scottish kilts."

Ken MacDonald, governor of the Scottish Tartan Authority, added that it was important people did not think the cut-price kilt was "the real thing".

"There's a market for this imported stuff which is usually made in India or Pakistan, but it shouldn't be passed off as the real thing made here, which is of a far higher standard," he said.

A Lidl spokeswoman said the kilts were aimed at people who could not afford to buy a traditional kilt, but still wanted to wear national dress for Burns night.

She said: "It is a casual kilt, and I don't think it will have any impact on the business of traditional kiltmakers. This is something for people who maybe can't afford a traditional kilt."

The full article contains 423 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 10 January 2008 2:25 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Mile , Kilts
 
1

Londonroadguy,

nearby 10/01/2008 14:34:44
God this guy's got serious problems.Anyone wearing that cheap crap will look so! lighten up.
2

Mallory,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 14:37:51
I seem to remember that Scottish bagpipes had to import the chanters from Pakistan - and what about badger fur for sporrans?
3

The_Doctor,

10/01/2008 14:37:54
If this kilt is such "crap", then why does he appear so worried? Surely, people will be beating a track to his door to pay the premium price for his premium product?!?

Total storm in a teacup stuff from the rent-a-quote bloke at Geoffrey (Tailor) Kiltmakers, as usual.

Do Saville Row or Armani get their knickers in a twist whenever Asda sell a cheap suit? No...they accept that there are differing needs for different consumers, not all of whom will want (or can afford) to pay top whack for the "real" thing.

Mr Nicholsby needs to take a chill pill and relax. I am worried about his blood pressure.

And I hope he has some evidence to back up his dubious claim that Lidl's kilt will "fall apart after it has been worn once". If I was Lidl, I'd sue for that one.

4

JulesF,

10/01/2008 14:43:56
So let's see if I visit

http://www.geoffreykilts.co.uk/gentskilts.htm

with the intention of purchasing a kilt for a Burns night out, my cheapest option is nearly ten times the price of a 'piece of crap' from Lidl.

As a diehard fanatic of Lidl and Aldi and knowing their reputation for inexpensive yet high quality merchandise, does he really expect me to believe the product Lidl will be offering will be ten times less quality than his own product ?

i think not, in fact I might just make a point of going to Lidl and buying one even though i had no intention of buying a kilt before I saw this article. (I always hire)

Anyone know when the offer is on ?
5

Fenon,

10/01/2008 14:48:30
Polish and Russians in Lidl buying Kilts... Doubt it
6

PDdod,

peterhead 10/01/2008 15:01:28
Now there's a worried guy in aul reekie.
7

James (1),

10/01/2008 15:06:28
There is no self interest here you understand? This is all about standards!
8

Black Five,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:08:11
Why wear the wretched things anyway ?
9

Paddi,

10/01/2008 15:10:18
#8 you're right, no one should be seen wearing a kilt south of the highlands
10

Skip McClendon,

Headling for Lidl 10/01/2008 15:30:50
I'd like to thank Howie Nicholsby for advertising Lidl's cheap kilt. Without his rant, I'd never have heard about the availability of such an affordable kilt. Absolute bargain!

I'm just off to buy one now, and will be telling all my pals to do the same. Cheers, Howie! You're an absolute sport for going out of your way to draw attention to this excellent deal!
11

alex paterson,

embra 10/01/2008 15:32:57
Who the hell cares,how much do you think the bard paid for his kilt,tat they may be but if you only use them one a year who wants to pay the full price.
12

Scotty Cameron,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:33:22
These poor wee Lidl Kilts are kept in the dark, never see daylight for 30 days and with nae space to move around. Unlike the Geoffrey Kilts who have wide open fields to roam around....! It's just not fair!

Sounds like another case for Hugh Fernly McWhitinstall!
13

Puzzler,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 15:55:54
I agree that people should not be misled into thinking that they are buying something traditional, made in Scotland from Scottish materials, unless that is true, but the rest of it is nonsense.

I would quite like to wear a kilt from time to time, but hundreds of pounds for the hand made effort, plus the same again for all the extras places it out of my reach. I simply can't afford to spend the best part of £1000 for something I will wear a couple of times a year, if that. Sorry.

Recently my 7 year old needed a kilt at an event. The hand made version would have set me back £500, for something that would fit him, for a year at most. That's just too much so I got him the cheapo version from Gold brothers. He looked great and it didn't cost an arm and a leg, plus all the extras can be let out as he grows. Makes sense to me.

There will still be plenty of people ready to shell out for the real deal. I suspect that the Lidl kilts will be pretty cheap and nasty and not last long, but that's OK. They are only asking a few quid.

Instead of getting their knickers in a twist every time someone sells cheap highland dress, the kiltmakers should produce a range of products to suit people's pockets. The original kilts were made in a highland hovel by the wearers wife after all. It was a simple practical garment made with easily available and cheap local materials. There is no reason why something made of wool should be so ridiculouly expensive in a country that still has more sheep in it than people. It's basically just a woolen skirt, not a silken robe for God's sake.

The makers of traditional wears and souvenirs in Scotland are feeling the pinch because they have been too complacent for too long. Until the arrival of the Gold brothers, one had a choice of spending a fortune on expensive artifacts or nothing. Now they can choose the rolls royce version if they want, or go for something less expensive - even if it is rubbish.

There will always be a big market f
14

eric-shaun,

Lothian 10/01/2008 16:11:55
13
I can vouch for the hand made effort, Much better than those mass produced efforts.
15

Couch Correspondent,

Lidl - buying a kilt 10/01/2008 16:14:47
I'm sure Burn's would have been proud to see his fellow man, farmer and all, affording to celebrate his birthday in national dress!

16

S.E,

abbeyhill 10/01/2008 16:17:36
#3 I once bought a pair of Lidl Brougues for five poond and they disintegrated into nothing in a month!
17

alex patersons English teacher,

10/01/2008 16:44:30
16
no wonder,you should have boght some form of suitable footwear,trout along now.
18

My opinions count for more than yours,

because I'm special 10/01/2008 16:56:15
15.

"Burns" with an apostrophe. I've seen it all now.

Why not ju'st u'se one in every in'stance?
19

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/01/2008 17:00:07
I don't think this will hurt traditional kilt makers at all. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. If you pay £25 you will get a kilt that doesn't hang properly, will go shiny once worn a few times and will probably blow up in the wind.

If you spend 3 figures on a kilt, it will fit you, will last years, will look good and will not blow up.
20

Young Gordon,

The Shore 10/01/2008 17:21:11
My mate Rob works in Inverness in a nice Genuine Kilt shop. He is a very nice genuine person so I'm genuinely emailing him this article, in order that he may continue selling genuine goods. No tartan tat in Inverness! Keep up the good work Rob, say hi to Becs for me !! G:-)
21

Jingling Geordie,

Sunshine on Leith 10/01/2008 17:25:23
What a price, I ver near 'kilt' myself laughing.
22

Mikey,

10/01/2008 18:13:04
He's right, you know! Just feel a 'real' kilt and then feel the crap ones. No comparison. The people who wear this cheap crap probably wander about in white nylon trackie bottoms. No class!
23

Fluffy,

edinburgh 10/01/2008 19:28:03
#4 exactly!!!!!

there's clearly a market for cheap kilts, judging by all the 'tartan tat' shops around the city, and at the end of the day, most guys will rent a kilt for a wedding anyway!

this guy needs to wake up and smell the bacon butties (or is that tat too)!!!
24

Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:43:56
Dont we all just LOVE Lidl ?? :-D.
Tell you what ? you got to congratulate them on this'
"coined idea"!!
25

Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:49:33
Anyway that not 'so' Scottish Shop in Princess Street sells them anyhow, so whats the difference?

'Ye-aha Cowboy' get the music outside now!!
26

Charles Linskaill,

.Edinburgh 10/01/2008 20:52:09
Let the winds blow high,
Let the winds blow low,
Down the street in m' kilt I go
And all the ladies say "Hello
Donald where's your trousers?"
27

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10/01/2008 21:18:23
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28

ian citizen,

overpriced 10/01/2008 21:19:18
nicholsby is well over priced thats why they are millionaires & running scared well done lidl's keep up the good work
nicholsby ahh same one that makes non tartan stupid looking kilts now that doesent seem to bother him suppose highlanders wore them did they ?
29

earnabob,

right here 10/01/2008 22:32:31
All this fuss and the big poet himself never seemed to wear the damn things anyway !
Most pictures have him in a lovely set of trousers.
30

COLINTON.MAINS,

Oakville Ontario 10/01/2008 22:47:48
.i.would.never.go.in.to.aGOLD.BROS.STORE.FOR.STARTERS
31

Yuro Raitt,

11/01/2008 00:16:06
1.28
32

James (1),

11/01/2008 08:23:46
#31 please tell me why you put a full stop after each word.
It make you appear a tube! What is the meaning of it?
33

OLD GIN,

KINGDOM O FIFE 11/01/2008 09:05:39
LIDL HAVE ALLWAYS SOLD GOODS AF A GREAT STANDERD WHATS HIS MARK UP IN PROFIT, I STILL WOULD NOT BUY EVEN AT THAT PRICE
34

Duncan in Edinburgh,

11/01/2008 09:31:06
#13 said "I agree that people should not be misled into thinking that they are buying something traditional ..."

Quite right. It has never been traditional for people in the Lowlands to wear a kilt; the Bard rarely if ever wore one; what is called "traditional highland dress" today is largely an invention of the the nobles of the 19th century, whose other achievements include the Highland Clearances; the association of specific tartans with specific clans is a complete invention of this period; and the only reason people are concerned in this business today is that there is a great deal of money to be made from it.
35

Logie Almond,

11/01/2008 11:16:38
"Burns would be turning in his grave at this". I agree with Duncan. Burns never wore a kilt in his life.
36

ACS,

St Andrews 11/01/2008 11:35:26
Well said #30 and #35. A "national dress" invented by Victorian English land-owning classes and its links to the Clearances which generations of proles have bought into. Us real Highlanders widnae be seen deid in one, but if we did we'd settle for the Lidl version!
37

ian citizen,

burns 11/01/2008 17:23:56
if burns ever wore a kilt which he didnt, would it be one of howies overpriced leather ones, or one of the other skirts he makes
38

jimb4abobor2,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 04:39:05
Let the winds blow high,
Let the winds blow low,
with inflation very high you no
and with the credit crunch i cant buy lunch
so Down the street i will go
in m' kilt i bought from lidl oh
and all for twenty five pound oh
And all the ladies say "Hello
Donald wheres your trouser
where did you get the kilttie oh
Donald where's your trousers
39

CurlySue,

12/07/2008 14:45:38
Surely these kilts are just 'fancy dress' for Halloween or Fancy Dress Parties. These kilts are not SEXY!!!! Every time I see a man in these taki kilts I think he should be wearing a twinset and pearls.
They always give me a good laugh - thanks for that boys!!!!

 

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