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Brown going for broke as fears over stronghold grow



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Published Date: 05 July 2008
LABOUR is to order virtually all of its Scottish MPs and MSPs to campaign in Glasgow East as it prepares for a "big fight" with the SNP in a knife-edge bid to save the Prime Minister.
Party chiefs have e-mailed the 39 Scottish Labour MPs at Westminster asking them to turn out, while MSPs have agreed to put campaigning for the party leadership at Holyrood – which is currently in recess – on hold until after the 24 July polling day.


Labour launched its opening salvo in the life-or-death by-election yesterday with a visit by Cabinet minister Douglas Alexander and four other leading figures to the constituency to convince voters to stay loyal to the party.

Mr Alexander, the UK International Development Secretary, told The Scotsman: "We are working hard to win. We are not taking the voters for granted."

Senior MP Tom Clarke, who joined Mr Alexander as he toured Baillieston, said: "I think this will be a very hard fought campaign and so it should be.

"We have learned a lot of lessons from recent by-elections. We simply have to make sure we put up a big fight. We have done that in the past and we have won. Nobody, but nobody, is prepared to take this for granted."

With the future of Gordon Brown at stake after humiliations in the Crewe and Henley by-elections, Labour MSPs Charlie Gordon, Pauline McNeill and Ken Macintosh also joined in the canvassing.

And The Scotsman has learned Labour activists across the UK are being roped in to canvass potential voters in Glasgow East by cold-calling them from phone banks across England, and in Glasgow and Edinburgh, to check whether the party is addressing "issues of concern" to them.

Today Alex Salmond, the SNP First Minister, will try to ratchet up the pressure on Labour by accompanying the Nationalists' candidate, John Mason, on a shopping centre visit.

Then, next week, Tory leader David Cameron and former leader Iain Duncan Smith will visit. Their aim will be to embarrass the Prime Minister, who is expected to follow convention and stay away from the by-election, even though it is in his party's heartland.

Labour was last night selecting its candidate from a short-list of three: George Ryan, who was considered the favourite, Irene Graham and Doug Maugham.

On the ground, The Scotsman found clear signs of support for the SNP, which has to overturn a 13,507 majority in Labour's third safest seat in Scotland if it is to inflict the third by-election defeat this year on Mr Brown and condemn him to consider resignation or limp towards a likely General Election defeat.

The SNP's chances were boosted by the decision of former MSP Tommy Sheridan not to stand for the Solidarity party. Bookmakers William Hill made the SNP 5/6 joint favourites with Labour.

Mr Mason, an SNP Glasgow city councillor, accused Mr Brown of "running scared". Mr Salmond said: "This by-election is an opportunity for people in the East End of Glasgow to send a message to London."

The by-election was called after sitting Labour MP David Marshall stood down on health grounds.

Mr Clarke told The Scotsman: "MPs will be there, MSPs will be there and I have no doubt Cabinet ministers will be there."

He added: "Douglas Alexander and I did quite a bit of Baillieston. We had a very, very good response. I don't want to be complacent – there is a lot of hard work required, but if we can do that we will hold the seat comfortably.

"I think a lot of Labour people who would not have voted realise this time their vote is particularly important. From what I was getting on the doorstep, they have a very, very good understanding of where the Labour government is and how important their constituency is.

"There are quite a lot of people who feel that Gordon Brown has been given a hard time. Glaswegians are like that. They're more likely to support people under attack."

WHO'S WHO

SNP

John Mason, 51


Leader of the SNP opposition on Glasgow Council, and a long-time resident of the city's East End, Mr Mason is councillor for the Ballieston ward.

An accountant by trade, he works full-time as a councillor, and is viewed very much as the voice of SNP at a local level.

He has a reputation as being combative in council dealings and has hard-line views on independence.

In March last year he was banned from meetings for nine months after he occupied the lord provost's seat in protest at changes in the voting system of the council.

Those who know him say Mr Mason is personable and extremely hard-working, as shown by his membership of every council committee and sub-committee.

LIBERAL DEMOCRATS

Ian Robertson, 30


A maths teacher at Bellahouston Academy in Glasgow's South Side, he was born and educated in the East End.

The youngest candidate, Mr Robertson's student background was in politics and debating, campaigning for the Liberal Democrats at Dundee and Strathclyde universities. He was the president of the Strathclyde Student Union.

Mr Robertson has said that he would be a "strong local champion" on unemployment and crime issues. He has claimed that "local people are feeling let down by Gordon Brown's Labour government."

In addition to playing the local card, Mr Robertson has also said that he is confident that he can make inroads into the Labour vote, attracting disillusioned voters.

CONSERVATIVES

Davena Rankin, 35


A veteran of previous Glasgow by-elections, in Cathcart and Kelvin, she will have her work cut out to make an impact in a two-horse race between Labour and the SNP.

Party sources believe her capable and intelligent, but nobody holds out much hope for her prospects in the polls.

As a non-white woman and a leading trade unionist, she is not the typical Conservative candidate. She was brought up in Glasgow, before going to Sussex University. Ms Rankin did Royal Navy basic training as an officer in 1997 before moving to Glasgow University to develop its commercial and entrepreneurial initiatives.

She is now the commercial manager for Research & Innovation Services at Glasgow Caledonian University.

LABOUR

George Ryan, 45


Tipped widely to be the Labour candidate, Mr Ryan is head of the council's pivotal development and regeneration department, and councillor for Shettleston.

Born and raised in the East End, he will make much of his involvement in the many regeneration projects currently under way in the area.

There are two other potential candidates short-listed: Irene Graham, a former Glasgow councillor and Doug Maughan, an airline pilot.





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05/07/2008 00:02:24
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ThomasP,

05/07/2008 00:06:03
"Mr Alexander, the UK International Development Secretary, told The Scotsman: "We are working hard to win. We are not taking the voters for granted."

Funny that. Labour did not exactly campaign hard for this seat during the last elections...

3

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:07:33

"There are quite a lot of people who feel that Gordon Brown has been given a hard time. Glaswegians are like that. They're more likely to support people under attack...."

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

That's unbelievable!

Is Mr Clarke saying that the people of Glasgow East, some of the most deprived in Western Europe should be feeling sorry for Mr Brown?

If that's the by election strategy, Labour are sunk!

4

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:10:19
1 Number: 6, 05/07/2008 00:02:24

The Hootsman's sloppy journalism is caught out again

The Labour Councillor George Ryan didn't attend the meeting yesterday night and the decision to pick a Labour Candidate has been put back to Monday.

It is rumoured that Cllr Ryan is reconsidering whether he wants to stand for Westminster.

Oh Dear

Labour in chaos before it even starts.

5

ThomasP,

05/07/2008 00:10:49
"And The Scotsman has learned Labour activists across the UK are being roped in to canvass potential voters in Glasgow East by cold-calling them from phone banks across England."

Is this wise? The country already are annoyed that the people phone up to try and sell you things over the phone...
6

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:11:59
2 ThomasP, 05/07/2008 00:06:03

Dougie Alexander

"...... taking the voters for granted."

Wee Dougie must be really rattled if he's emailing all his Scottish Colleagues to tell folk in Glasgow how there spending £4Billion on aircraft carriers whilst our soldiers are dying in afghanistan.


7

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:12:47
5 ThomasP, 05/07/2008 00:10:49

That will go down like a lead balloon.

Brown will be calling folk at 6am every other night.......

8

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:13:47
7 Ars Gratia Artis, 05/07/2008 00:12:34

It's even better than that

It is rumoured that Cllr Ryan is reconsidering whether he wants to stand for Westminster.

Labour are floundering
9

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 00:15:28
#1

When's Gordy Broon coming up to campaign then ? Face it, he's sh@t his pants.

There'll be no liebore leader from Scotland or the UK.

And what about the breaking scandal over Marshall's expenses ? Not just about his health.

Then one potential liebore candidate Clarke looks like he's withdrawing before the contest !

F@@@@@nnies !

10

democrate,

central Scotland 05/07/2008 00:18:54
How did Tom "I voted for the retention of the John Lewis list" Clarke have the brass neck to campaign in this constituency?
11

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:18:54
10 McMadman

lets not forget the list of Scottish Mp's who voted to keep their noses in the trough.......

Gordon Banks (Ochil & Perthshire South),
Tom Clarke (Coatbridge),
Michael Connarty (Linlithgow & Falkirk East),
Ian Davidson (Glasgow South West),
Brian Donohoe (Ayrshire Central),
David Hamilton (Midlothian),
Jimmy Hood (Lanark & Hamilton East),
Adam Ingram (East Kilbride, Strathaven & Lesmahagow),
Eric Joyce (Falkirk),
Tommy McAvoy (Rutherglen & Hamilton West),
James McGovern (Dundee West),
Anne McGuire (Stirling),
Rosemary McKenna (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth & Kirkintilloch East),
John Robertson (Glasgow North West),
Jimmy Sheridan (Paisley & Renfrewshire North),
Gavin Strang (Edinburgh East),


Labour should be hanging their heads in collective shame.

12

JulietB,

Inverness 05/07/2008 00:23:42
I know the SNP candidate from working with him several years ago and I know of the Liberal candidate. Both decent individuals but I have to say John Mason would rock a few boats down in Westminster so if I was local Id be voting SNP
13

Traquir , Alba,

05/07/2008 00:28:28
From The Herald it would appear to confirm that
Ryan might pull out or in fact has already
pulled out :)

"George Ryan, appeared to pull out of the running at the last minute for family reasons."

Perhaps they need a proven staunch Unionist like
Foulkes or Baillie - please, please.

see - tinyurl.com/62nlmo

Also good on Tommy Sheridan for kicking to
boot into Brown in the same article :

"I'm not going to be dishonest to the electorate," he said. "We don't think we have a realistic chance of winning at this stage. We have got no problem with the SNP winning this election. Solidarity will be pleased to see the demise of Gordon Brown."

Saor Alba
14

Senga Jean,

05/07/2008 00:31:25
Where is the Labour candidate, Stop fooling where is he/she. Surely not a McCavity,?
15

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 00:33:58
Liebore

"We have learned a lot of lessons from recent by-elections"

Aye. How tae get pumped.
16

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:38:13
17 Ars Gratia Artis, 05/07/2008 00:32:34

I put a complaint into Question Time, surely they can vett the audience so it really is members of the public and note activits, the depsrate crys of 'bring it on' that rung through about 5-6 people was hilarious...... Nicola not getting a chance to answer the boo boys wasn't far and David Dimbelby should have allowed her to answer them fully.

It's not the first time Labour have been reprimanded for using party activits posijing as 'ordinary joe bloggs'...... remeber that £5000 advert during the Holyrood Election and when it came to light, every single person was a labour party card holder....

Well they are still at it, check out this.

www.labour.org.uk/proud/proud_to_be_labour

cont'd
17

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 00:38:35
"Mr Alexander, the UK International Development Secretary, told The Scotsman: "We are working hard to win. We are not taking the voters for granted."


"No, really, not this time, we mean it, not after 50 years, we really do mean it this time, we will deliver for you, honest, JUST SHUT THE FECKIN HELL UP AND VOTE LIKE THE SHEEP WE'VE ALWAYS TAKEN YOU FOR" the quote should have continued.

Said the pigs from the piggery known as John Smith house, though the voices were muffled due to their snouts being buried deep in the trough.
18

Ken_Fitlike,

05/07/2008 00:38:44
cont'd
Proud of the NHS, Proud to be Labour

www.labour.org.uk/proud/proud_to_be_labour

Does anyone else think this is incredibly misleading?

Many of these names do not state their affiliation with Labour and could be said to be presenting themselves as ordinary ''members of the public'', to an unsuspecting person who wnders onto this site.

There are NO Labour Logo's and it doesn't say outright that it is for labour.

Donors tell us why they've given to the "Proud of the NHS, Proud to be Labour" campaign

Didn't Labour get reprimanded for this at the May 2007 Election with 'fake' families stating they'd be £5000 worse off.

I've added the true identities, or atleast as far as I can find out doing a bit of googling, below each name, follow the link above and you'll see their names without the details of who they are:

[bold]Alitsair Campbell[/bold]
ol' 45 minutes himself, tops the list

[bold]Keith Vaz MP[/bold]
What was your award for delivering 42 days?

[bold]Andy Furlong, Bosworth[/bold]
Labour Party Official

[bold]Roy Kennedy, Lewisham[/bold]
Labour Party Candidate

[bold]Carol Linforth, London[/bold]
Assistant General Secretary. The Labour Party

[bold]Tom Watson MP, West Bromwich East[/bold]
At least he has been upfront about who he is.

[bold]Giampi Alhadeff, London[/bold]
Secretary General of the European Parliamentary Labour Group

[bold]Keith Birch, London[/bold]
Labour Party NEC member

[bold]Alicia Kennedy, Lewisham[/bold]
Labor's Deputy General Secretary

[bold]Hilary Perrin, London[/bold]
Director of London Labour Party

[bold]Chris Lennie[/bold]
Labour Party 'Registered Treasurer'

[bold]Colin Shrive, Blackpool[/bold]
Labour Councillor

[bold]Trevor Barton, Bolton[/bold]
Chairman of Quango 'Leigh Sports Development Partnership'
[italic]Political ally of Labour's Andy Burnham MP[/italic]

[bold]Linda Wilkie, Glasgow[/bold]
Continuing Education Gateway
[italic]Hosted by Gla
19

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 00:39:25
#19

What was your principled objection to the sentiment posted at #18 ? Was it inaccurate ?
20

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 00:40:50
#19

Btw, thanks for the lecture. Relevance to this thread ?
21

ThomasP,

05/07/2008 00:41:52
20 Ken_Fitlike.

I was shocked at the brutality of Question Time the other night also.

Least it shows the Nats in a better light then the Unionists who keep on whinging.
22

Voldemort,

Edinburgh 05/07/2008 00:51:42
What is the force that drives us toward such mediocrity that we believe in any political party that would have us make such a choice when there is no choice. It is time to throw off the fleece and vote with the teeth and talons that democracy gave us.

Better a big fish in a small pond perhaps ... I cannot be the only one who tired of seeing a society in which we are bullied and ignored.
23

ThomasP,

05/07/2008 00:57:11
27 Ars Gratia Artis.

Weapons?

What are you on about exactly?
24

Richardinho,

05/07/2008 01:00:28
As an SNP member, I hope the SNP win, obviously, but I'd advise every living in this constituency to seriously ask if Labour has really improved their lives. If not, I'd suggest they vote for any other candidate that they think might make a better job.
25

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 01:01:33
Ken.

Chill.

Everyone knows liebore are running ragged about the referendum.

Wendy: "I'm not that kinda girl, I don't believe in independence, why'd I want (I, not we) a referendum ?"

Wendy: "Bring it on, I AM that kinda girl after all."

Gordy/all liebore: "WTF ? Button it, kermitchops."

Wendy: "Ok, no, sorry, didnae mean it. I am indeed still virgo intactico on the referendum"

Gordy: "Cool, muthafekir"

Wendy: "Aw, ahv bin funnoot fir dodgy cash, wtf, BRING IT ON. Ah am a confused tart eiftir all"

Gordy/liebour: "FFS."

Big bro Dougie: "How dare the nats hound ma sister oot; even tho all the dodgy info could only have been leaked by me, errrr, I mean, us..... errr, ITS ALL A NAT PLOT"

Rest of the planet: "Fecck off liebour, ye dinnae ken yir @rse fie yir elbow on the referendum and are as bent as a three pund note."

26

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 01:04:31
#27

In terms of your #24 as refers to me, I thought you made a couple of daft points and said as much. Don't get touchy. Move on. Same is said to me plenty often and probably with justification, life is too short.
27

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 01:18:15
#32

Truce. I gather you are no unionist, let us concentrate on rebutting nonsense from those who consider Scotia merely north britain and that would have Scotia remain a part of the glorious empire, subsidising the fules forever.
28

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/07/2008 01:20:47
Are Lyndall and McGinty just thick. Or are they being deceitful? Why no mention of the aircraft carriers? Which is Brown Dog's big by-election bribe.
29

Dawn Chorus,

05/07/2008 01:21:28
remember... we've never had it so good

thanks New Labour, for nothing

Vote SNP and give them a well-deserved bloody nose, it's the only option
30

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 01:25:44
#36

Indeed and agreed. What's the phrase we might both be seeking here ?

Errrr, how about "Bring it on ?" :)
31

Edward,

05/07/2008 01:41:34
'Party chiefs have e-mailed the 39 Scottish Labour MPs at Westminster asking them to turn out'
No doubt it will include the 17 leetches that voted to retain the 'John Lewis' shopping list
The good people of Glasgow East would be well within their rights to ask for a John Lewis voucher from them, after all they paid for it!
32

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 05/07/2008 01:41:57
Classic comedy from Labour on both sides of the border.

A by-election that the Bean will not attend even though his career rests upon the outcome, and they havent even got a candidate yet.

Go on Labour show us you care.
33

Edward,

05/07/2008 01:51:23
'Labour was last night selecting its candidate from a short-list of three: George Ryan, who was considered the favourite, Irene Graham and Doug Maugham'

Sorry Scotsman, youve been wrongly breifed by Labour
apparently George Ryan did a runner and Labour have posponed deciding who their candidate will be on Monday evening next week! Its actually reported in the Herald. Labour are in a shambolic state!
Can just imagine Labour MP's being bussed in and the first question that Joe punter asks 'an who is the Labour candidate?' erhm Dunno!
It is understood that Mr Ryan's partner is reluctant for him to seek the nomination, Steven Purcell, leader of Glasgow City Council, will come under party pressure to seek the nomination
34

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 05/07/2008 02:05:52
#37

Though some criticise the SNP for manifesto promises "broken" - and I use "broken" because they are merely one year in - those same critics cannot have it all ways.

The referendum bull is proposed for 2010 as per pages 8 and 15 of the SNP manifesto. Therefore it has been long known that this was the proposal. Liebour's in/out/shake it all about position is frankly disengenious.

At least the nats have been consistent on a referendum. One cannot criticise them for breaking all of their promises, yet then when they stick to a key promise - a referendum in 2010 - criticise them for keeping to this when independence is a fundamental tenent of their raison d'etre.

Whilst you may be right in saying "Mature politicians have a duty not to reduce debate to playground buzzwords," the fact is all of all parties do this in seeking to address what they perceive to be the "lowest common denominator," eg sun/daily record readers.

As it is well known that these papers base their content on a presupposed literacy ability of about 12 years old, you can see how politicians fall into this trap.

"There shall be a referendum in 2010. I like that," to paraphrase the late Mr Dewar. As it says on the tin (or rather the manifesto). Why do you think it requires to be sooner, and if so what support do you think exists for a referendum sooner ?
35

Richardinho,

05/07/2008 02:15:35
If there's even an outside chance of Labour losing this seat it would almost certainly be dumped on the losing candidate. Telling, that no-one wants to be the fall guy.
Shurely there must be some labour stooge who has nothing to lose, someone who has already been humiliated as far as it's possible to be-someone perhaps who has recently lost their job?
36

Nit-Nat,

05/07/2008 02:26:14
38

Are you talking to us all about maturity and BS buzzwords? You always refer to "Liebour", while I don't them as much a you, I can't help but notice how much the dregs of the SNP have in common with the dregs of Labour.

It is professional agitator v professional agitator in Scotland, child v child, it is ruining Scotland and if only you could take your own advice.
37

Traquir , Alba,

05/07/2008 02:39:36
So comrade Ryan cannae be bothered going down
tae London town - perhaps he would be better off
with Independence and he would just have to
travel to Edinburgh :)

LOL, what delicious irony if only the election
had not been so rushed then Labour would have had time to prepare :)

Here I think is the real reason they don't want Georgie
Boy being their candidate, or of course it
could be the book banned
Halls Of Infamy blowing his involvement in sleaze -

see -tinyurl.com/5hd5ec

Basically he opposed flying the Union flag and God Save
The Queen in Glasgow in favour of flying the
saltire and use the song Flower of Scotland instead :)
Can this Labour farce get any better - I have tears
in my eyes and am not sure how much of it I can
take - perhaps their latest cunning ploy is for the SNP
to die laughing :)

Now the excuse is that he does not want to go down
to Westminster - who can blame him.

All we need now is to have them nominate Foulkes or
Baillie for the circus to be complete.

However most likely it will a Glasgow Labour Councillor, which reminds me has anybody managed
to get their hands on a copy of Halls of Infamy
about the endemic sleaze
in Glasgow City Council ? Apparently it has now been
removed from Borders shelves in Glasgow's West End
and a full scale ban and censorship appears to be
in force. It would serve the SNP greatly if
somebody can their hands on this latest set
of Labour sleaze and/or
can track down the author Niall Walker. Hopefully
they have not bumped him off - he appears to have
disappeared.

Saor Alba
38

boudica,

Glasgow 05/07/2008 02:56:59
The East end of Glasgow is now being regenerated due to the Commonwealth Games ? also didnt the SNP try to stop SportsScotland being moved to the EastEnd of Glasgow and did a quick Uturn on that booboo in January ??? Nopw that alone wont be forgotten by the East Enders...
39

boudica,

Glasgow 05/07/2008 03:01:41
And Salmond also said that if he didnt get a Yes for Independence he would keep having referendums till he got the right answer...something like Mugabe did in Zimbabwee ..he just keeps having Elections till he gets the right answer ..No wonder Salmond admires him so ....
40

Castaway,

05/07/2008 03:03:20
Off Subject - But of interest to our fellow Gaelic speaking Scots.
Welsh and Gaelic are official EU tongues.
Welsh and Scottish Gaelic will soon be echoing around the European Union's corridors of power under an agreement that Britain is about to sign with its EU partners. The deal, which could be rubber-stamped as early as Tuesday, will mean that individuals will be able to write to the EU's Council of Ministers in either language - and that the Council, where governments take political and legislative decisions, will have to reply in the same tongue.
British representatives may also use the languages in official Council meetings. Once the agreement is formalised, Britain will negotiate similar arrangements with the European Commission, the European Ombudsman - which handles complaints - and other EU organisations involving parliamentary, regional and business representatives. July 5, 2008
http://tinyurl.com/56wjkg
41

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/07/2008 03:03:50
And how many unemployed Jimmies are now working for SportsScotland?
I suspect zero or the next best thing to it. Save yer breath, mesun.
42

Richardinho,

05/07/2008 03:05:11
'The East end of Glasgow is now being regenerated due to the Commonwealth Games ? '

Which Alex Salmond helped to bring to Scotland, if you cast your mind back.
43

clochoderic,

05/07/2008 03:26:38
Canm I just repeat that Dougie Alexander is an over-promoted trumpet?
44

Conan the Librarian™,

05/07/2008 03:37:50
51
A Tube(ah)?
45

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/07/2008 03:48:17
A brilliant thought overcame me - or maybe it's just a side effect of the box wine I've been drinking - but isn't it ironic and cosmic that the fate of the union and the future of Scotland could be decided in East Glasgow?
And that the future of the nation may come down to the will and the wishes of the Mhairis and the Jimmies.
The most depraved, oppressed, unfortunate, desperate, humorous, heartwarming and resilient people in the country finally are empowered beyond their wildest dreams.
Brown's job in the balance, SNP's dominance, the irrelevance of the LibDem/ConScot opposition, the carrier bribe, the wolves salivating back in Westminster.
Does it get any better than that?
Or do I need to upgrade my wine selection?
46

Traquir , Alba,

05/07/2008 04:07:02
53 Neil Waugh,

Excellent post. To your question does it get any better, I just
had a vision of the Unionistas bloggers here making their way
down to Glasgow East in all their Unionist splendour.
Can you imagine the campaigning efforts of the likes of Boudica,
Number 6, AM2 and Highland Mighty. Truly a sight for sore
eyes :) Of course these guys are so delusional they might
even do this, then the circus would be complete.

I await the Unionistas following to the letter their
Guide on How to Preserve The Union

see tinyurl/5ncw8z
47

Conan the Librarian™,

05/07/2008 04:16:28
53
Pity they will all be in Blackpool...
48

TommyKaye,

UK 05/07/2008 04:30:47
Went to Glasgow once for a laugh............came back in stitches
49

Andrew D,

BNE 05/07/2008 05:01:04
I just hope that the people in Glasgow step up... actually see behind the bull they have been fed and meekly accepted (my grandfather voted... and my father voted... so I'll vote...) for way too long and make a stand.

Yes, the SNP has won in Glasgow before but never from this position.

Unlike the bookies though I don't think this is at all an easy one for the SNP. I think it will take a lot of work from them because I - since I'm thousands of miles away probably can't get the pulse of the people - find it hard to imagine Labour voters in such numbers changing their vote.

(Honestly... the whole my grandfather/father voted thing turns my stomach. I was part of campaigning years ago in Glasgow and Paisley and the amount of times I heard that - almost apologetically said sometimes, as if they had no choice! - at the doorsteps really lowered my opinion of people in general a few notches)
50

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 05/07/2008 05:02:03
Fu(k Traquir, your box wine is better than mine. The delusional circus would be a great You Tube item.
51

somerferg,

perth 05/07/2008 05:35:33

Oh this is going to be a good one. Remember how nasty the monkeys with red rosettes were before the Holyrood election - well you ain't seen nothing yet! The monkeys with red rosettes may be sh.te at running the country, always lining their own pockets and keeping the plebs ignorant but one thing they are good at is NASTY politics. Words like the truth, honesty and fairness don't even register with them. As for some of the stupid pro-monkey comments on this thread all I can say is hopefully the colletive memories of the people of the east end of Glasgow will be long enough to remember how Labour has (and continues) to shaft them! and vote instead for the only party which looks after their and Scotland's best interests and who are not answerable to the great unwashed of the south east of engerland.
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 05/07/2008 06:49:37
labour mps wont have time to canvas they will be to busy filling in the snout in trough expenses claims
gordon brown does not have the bottle to face the people of the east end and the poverty unemployment and deprivation the labour party has created over the last 50years in the east end with there policys,wee dougie alexander another eejit who ruined the holyrood elections the guy could not run a message never mind a dept of goverment
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LEAL,

05/07/2008 06:52:37
59 somerferg
We've seen dirty tricks from Labour before.They have no positive arguments for remaining in the union,so they have to be negative and rely on dirty tricks.While it may help them in the Glasgow East byelection,it will come back to haunt them in all the elections to follow.Scots are sick of being told they are to useless to run their own country,and are sick of London rule.The dirtier Labour play this one,the better it will be for the SNP and Scotland in the future.
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 07:02:05
I asked for expense details from the London parliament, on Ann McKechin, MP for Glasgow North, David Cairns, MP for Inverclyde and Edinburgh North & Leith MP, Mark Lazarowicz. I also asked for info on His Lardship, Lard Foolkes from the Hoose of Lords @ foilords@parliament.uk.
They are very helpful, even acknowledging my enquiry and promising details next week.


I was going to enquire about George Ryan but seemingly he never showed up at his acceptance meeting!!!!
Looks like Purcell, so its his financial details I'm after.

Might find them in HALLS OF INFAMY?????
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 07:05:48
From today's Timesonline

Labour’s campaign in the crucial Glasgow East by election got off to a shambolic start last night after the party failed to select a candidate to fight the seat.

Party members were widely expected to back Glasgow city councillor George Ryan to contest the seat in the July 24th by election.

However, Mr Ryan failed to show up at the crucial meeting last night and it’s understood he is having second thoughts about standing for Westminster.

The SNP last night claimed Labour’s campaign was in disarray. A Spokesman said: “The wheels have come off Labour’s campaign, they don’t have a leader and now they don’t have a candidate.”
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 07:07:47
Was this the reason Ryan $hit himself??????


However, Cllr Ryan was set to be quizzed about remarks he made to a Cabinet minister five years ago about the Union Flag and the national anthem. Cllr Ryan told David Blunkett they were not “universally welcomed” symbols in the West of Scotland.

Cllr Ryan told David Blunkett in 2003 that because the flag and anthem had sectarian and offensive overtures for some Scots, the council would exclude them from a pilot scheme for citizenship ceremonies in the city.
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Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 05/07/2008 07:09:02
The job of our Government is to govern and not be over-concerned about "popularity". After all, should senior politians be subsequently voted out, they'll suffer no financial hardship - there are jobs in the EU and global corporations - it's only a dunt to the ego.

The scottish administration rather than government has to do the best for us from its restricted capabilities. This includes the notorious old boys club in the Scottish Office who can only be sacked at great cost of golden handshaking however incompetent they are. Whereupon they'll relocate to another high salaried executive post.
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John S,

05/07/2008 07:09:33
Gordon Brown hopes to rise above his troubles on global tour.
For much of the next three weeks, as his party battles it out with the SNP in another critical by-election, the Prime Minister will be out of the country attending summits, visiting trouble spots.
Tomorrow Mr Brown will climb aboard a private charter aircraft to take him the 5,500 miles to Hokkaido, in northern Japan, for his first G8 summit. He will be there until Thursday.
He will miss his weekly duel with Mr Cameron on Wednesday. Harriet Harman will fill the breach as Mr Brown.
The Prime Minister will then be popping over to Paris for an informal get-together - grandly entitled the Mediterranean summit - with EU leaders and others.
Mr Brown will be back in time for his last Prime Minister’s questions of the summer before heading off again the following weekend, July 20 and 21, to the Middle East for a 6,000-mile, 20-hour round trip during which he will hold talks with leaders from across the region.
Then he will face the chill reality of British politics again. Glasgow East votes the following Thursday.
After all that Mr Brown will go on holiday - somewhere in Britain, according to friends - before travelling to Beijing (another 10,000 miles there and back) for the last few days of competition and the closing ceremony, as the Chinese capital hands over to London for the 2012 Games.
Only two weekends ago he made a 6,000-mile round trip to Jedda, Saudi Arabia, to spend only a few hours on the ground discussing oil prices.
The Times July 5, 2008 - http://tinyurl.com/6rowoh
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05/07/2008 07:16:20
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 07:32:23
I fear Our Dear Leader Comrade Broon is losing his sanity

Claiming he is 'disappointed' that his Sleaze MP's voted to retain their 'perks'. Free vote on this, 3 line whip on 42 day detention??

New Labour Sleaze have become an utter laughing stock.

Vote SNP, the ONLY party for ALL the people of Scotland.
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 07:34:37
If Comrade Broon was sectioned under the Mental Health Act would he be the first PM removed from office for being insane?????

If he was sectioned would he still be able to enjoy his many perks???
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Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 05/07/2008 07:36:49
How can ANYONE vote for Labour...people of east Glasgow only need to look around them to see what Liebore have done for them...sweet FA.
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05/07/2008 07:43:13
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Fenland Farmer,

England 05/07/2008 08:01:58
Whilst watching this week's BBC question time from Scotland, a worthy informed us that the Scottish education system was superior to that of England. Hence the large number of Scot's in the UK Government. Whilst I was smiling at that particular bit of twaddle, the ZaNuLabour chap had spoken about Brown being the only person able to guide the UK out of the current financial challenge.
The worrying bit was that half the audience applauded at the end of his prattle.
Let's hope the cold calling does the job !

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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 05/07/2008 08:06:02
Browns Clowns have signed their own death warrant by voting to maintain their "John Lewis" unaudited expenses.

The people of Glasgow East will deliver them such a drubbing that they will all live in fear of the next General Election.

Brown may even resign, as it become apperant that Labour is headed for a defeat of historical proportions at the next general elections.

Whichever Buffon they chose to replace him with will not matter. Come election day most of these Clowns will be looking for a New Circus
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terry osser,

morden 05/07/2008 08:25:47
maggie is finished?
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/07/2008 08:31:21
All the SNP needs to do to win is to have a big trough somewhere out of the way. Keep topping it up with cash and white goods and that should distract the Labour MPs and MSPs for the duration of the campaign. Simple yet effective.
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jdships,

05/07/2008 08:31:24
One of he problems facing the SNP in this constituency has the "Ma Grandfaither and ma faither voted Labour and a'll be votin' Labour" syndrome.
It is still around in the West of Scotland - believe me.
Be an interesting campaign - methinks !!
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jacquesmac,

In the Norwegian Mountains with Aase's pony 05/07/2008 08:38:30
46 and 47 Boudica

What did the Romans ever do for us?

Mmm, let me think, apart from Central heating, Republicanism, piped water, latrines and a few other things they sure the Hell stuffed you.

Which is exactly what the people of Scotland are going to do to you and your Unionist wee pals on the 24th of July

Today is the 5th and ZaNuLab haven't even got a candidate nevermind a clue about how they are going to fight the election on the 24th, apart from all the usual gerrymandering tricks.

What was that tune Kinnochio used to play run onto the party platform?

"Things can only get better"

You would think that having slid so far down the greasy pole that they might expect some sort of heartflicker to indicate that the patient is in recovery. Turns out it is not the Pole that is greasy but the labour party itself.

Welcome to the abyss, a generation or so in two parallel universes awaits. Free Scotland and a permanently Tory Engerland.

I really feel sorry for the decent hard working English and Wlsh in Newcastle, Manchester, Cardiff, Liverpool and most other points north of Birmingham. You lot of pin striped lattee chattering socialist have sold Scotland and the aforementioned decent people down the toilet for so long.

We are about to kick you lot out good and proper.

As a Troll you can always reinvent yourself but as functioning human being it is not going to be so easy

You can run but you cannot hide

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donald,

glasgow 05/07/2008 08:43:27
English Labour HQs have been cold calling Scottish by elections since the Hamilton by election, when they had to bus activists up from Englerland and pay to have posters put up and leaflets delivered.
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LEAL,

05/07/2008 08:45:05
75 draco

excellent idea.Have tou had training in tactical matters?It would have to be a very big trough though.Labour MPs dont do anything for nothing.Not even for their own party.
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jacquesmac,

In the Norwegian Mountains with Aase's pony 05/07/2008 08:46:19
During one of Gordon's Awayday trips in the next few months, do you think we have his passport revoked?
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brownlie,

05/07/2008 08:48:05
44 Nit

Interesting to see you being against buzz-words and your reference to posters as the "dregs".

There is no significance,therefore, in your choice of moniker. It merely illustrates the maturity of your opinions.
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 08:54:12
It will have to be pointed out that New Labour Sleaze will only ever pay attention to marginal seats and ignore their 'safe' seats.

The electorate don't deserve any consideration.

As a financially and morally bankrupt party, New Labour Sleaze can be clearly seen for what they really are.
Selfish, greedy, self serving and arrogant.

Will Steven Purcell end his political 'career' by fighting a lost cause???

I don't think so. And there is the 'Halls of Infamy' which is being investigated by one of the Sundays. When that story breaks that'll be the end of the Glasgow mafia

The whole point of this election is saving Comrade Broon from humiliation, saving the Party and not giving a to$s about the electorate.

They will pay the ultimate price.
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Colin R,

05/07/2008 09:11:34
SNP's Kay Ulrich nearly beat Full Metal Camy Knickers Helen Liddell in John Smith's old Monklands seat so here's hoping.
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 09:12:21
Just a few reasons NOT to vote for New Labour Sleaze

1. Gold fire sale.
2. Pension theft.
3. Northern Rock.
4. Millennium Dome.
5. Nuclear power stations.
6. Cash for honours.
7. Shambolic immigration/asylum policies.
8. No European referendum as promised.
9. Illegal Iraqi war.
10. Trident replacement.
11. London Olympics.
12. Inadequately supplied troops
13. PFI/PPP debt for years.
14. Swearing allegiance to Britain by school kids.
15. ID cards.
16. NHS computerisation shambles.
17. Child tax credit shambles.
18. Child Support Agency
19. Scottish Election shambles (Dougie Alexander).
20. Economy in meltdown.
21. 24 hour drinking. (Keep the peasants pie-eyed and they’ll vote for us, just like their dads did).
22. Dr David Kelly
23. Westminster expense cover up
24. "British Jobs for British workers."
25. Privatisation of air traffic control
26. Giving director of CBI a ministerial job...
27. Dungavel detention centre for children of asylum seekers
28. Failing to vote on, or offer alternative or amendments to, the Scottish budget
29. Voting to keep graduate endowment.
30. Collaboration with rendition/ torture.
31. 12,000 redundancies at the DWP.
32. Closing Remploy factories a cost of 1000s jobs for the disabled.
33. Millionaire's inheritance tax cut.
34. Tuition fees.
35. Means testing benefits for the old.
36. Annexed 6000 Square Miles of Scottish Territorial Waters
37. Continued Theft of Scottish Oil & Gas
38. Constitutional Review (oops Commission)
39. Fly British Flag from public buildings
40. Destruction of Scottish Fishing Industry
41. 'Independent' Electoral Commission
42. Reduced funding for Scotland
43. Invest heavily in London infrastructure -e.g. High speed rail, Heathrow,
44. Nepotism and cronyism on a grand scale.
45. Scottish Industry Forum
46. Massive closures of Scottish Post Offices
47. Lose BP Hydrogen Plant @ Peterhead
48. Catalogue of top rated Wendy you-tube videos.
49. Refuse to investiga
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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 05/07/2008 09:13:14
#83 Bob Christie

Just out of interest, who are these 'vulnerable' people? It seems to be a buzz word of the moment, especially amongst the Labourites that you're purporting to criticise. The young are vulnerable. The old are vulerable. All sorts of minorities are vulnerable. The poor, it would appear are vulnerable. Vulnerable to what and who? It all strike me as a symptom of the all-pervading culture of victimhood and entitlement that's everywhere.
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Jimmy the Pie,

05/07/2008 09:13:17
And a few more!!

50. Refuse to create an Independent Scottish Labour Party
51. Catch Phrases/Spin e.g.” Whiter than white, Purer than pure”, "McChattering Classes", "CyberNat" and "Ranting Bloggers"
52. 20% Scots in relative poverty and increasing- tinyurl.com/2klhdm
53. Massive election frauds in Birmingham and other places (judge described as being like "banana republic" corruption)
54. The £400 million over-run on the parliament building.
55. Tony Blair comparing the Scottish parliament to a parish council.
56. Dressing taxes up as Green taxes and not spending the proceeds on the environment
57. Hammering high profit oil companies with high corporation tax but not his friends in the higher profit financial sector
58. Back door stealth taxation.
59. Banning protest and free speech near Westminster and Whitehall.
60. Ignoring the Glasgow East By-election.
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MisterN,

Scotland 05/07/2008 09:14:46
I will be more interested in how the media play this.
Are we going to see the exact extent to which the national media is controlled by the British establishment? will Rupert Murdoch himself tour the East End of Glasgow side by side with the Labour candidate?
Lets just see how low our so called free press will stoop on this one.

"He has a reputation as being combative in council dealings and has hard-line views on independence.

In March last year he was banned from meetings for nine months after he occupied the lord provost's seat in protest at changes in the voting system of the council."

Is this a prime example of what we can expect?
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icwalker,

angus 05/07/2008 09:18:46
I suggest labour's slogan or the election might be "saving councillor ryan"
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bluehead,

edinburgh 05/07/2008 09:25:31
the labour party are yesterday's people is time for them to depart,!for them to be booted out of office is essential, if we wish to rescue what is left of this country.
Britain has been dismantled to such an extent that it looks almost impossible to bring it back to the standards it once was.
i never thought that such a tragic mess could be made
of this country but unfortunately it is there for all to see.
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 05/07/2008 09:27:01
I look forward to seeing the gallant 39 members of the "Best Club in London" explain to the residents of the poorest and least healthy constituency in the UK what 11 years of Labour government have done for them, and why the folk should continue with their support.
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jacquesmac,

With Aase's pony 05/07/2008 09:28:06
I knew Tom Clarke in the old days when he wuz the Provost and always found him a quiet modest sort of man.

Much has he reason to be quiet and modest
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Pilrig.,

Livingston 05/07/2008 09:29:09
12 - working class heroes, the lot of 'em !
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Geoff,

sa 05/07/2008 09:30:46
85Jimmy the Pie-some might think of many items on your list as reasons TO vote for Labour-Trident replacment,Nuclear Power,Flying the British Flag(imagine that! Flying the British flag in BRITAIN!! Shock horror what next!!)London Olympics. Also "Massive closing of Scottish Post Offices"-what about Post offices closed elsewhere in the UK. Really James, sometimes you guys are over the top-closing Post offices= saving Public money. Ever heard of email= no need for stamps=less need for post offices!
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MisterN,

Scotland 05/07/2008 09:34:51
94

Oh aye just you repeat all that to the folk in the East end of Glasgow and ask them to vote for Labour on the strength of it.

Please!
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MisterN,

Scotland 05/07/2008 09:41:01
94

These people are living in one of the most deprived areas of Europe and you think they will be impressed by Labour spending their taxes on Trident missles the London Olympics and Nuclear power? and not on regeneration of the inner cities or housing schemes?
or on trying to keep public service open to the public?
Where are they going to get their giros from if the post office is shut?

Are you for real?
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Iain's,

Barcelona 05/07/2008 09:41:48
Remember the Hamilton election when Winnie Ewing was elected.

Vote anything other than New Labour or you will be left to rot!

There is no viable socialist party left in Scotland other than the Nats. The rest are all Tories or even more right of centre.

And Remember, any Muslim who votes New Labour is an apostate.

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brownlie,

05/07/2008 09:43:57
94 Geoff


Some might think that there are reasons to vote Labour - some might, but I suspect that not many will.