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Painting's stairs lead to another mystery at Rosslyn

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Published Date: 04 September 2009
The mystery of Rosslyn Chapel has been given a new twist amid claims that the historic building may be hiding more secrets deep underground.
Rumours of long lost vaults said to contain everything from the Holy Grail to a hoard of Templar treasure have been long debated but there has never been evidence of their existence – until now.

A curious painting has emerged showing a Templar Knight standing in front of an intriguing staircase which seems to lead down behind the rear wall of the chapel, to the left of the famous Apprentice Pillar.

It seems to present tantalising evidence not only of the chapel's fabled Templar links, but also a possible doorway to the hidden chambers themselves.

The investigation has been taken up by Scottish symbologist Ashley Cowie, dubbed "the real-ife Robert Langdon", in homage to author Dan Brown's fictional Da Vinci Code grail-hunter, who reveals all in his new book The Rosslyn Templar.

The pastel painting, entitled Templar Knight at Roslin (sic) Chapel by Scottish artist RT McPherson, is dated 1836 and remained in the private ownership of a family of local nobles until its auction at Shapes of Edinburgh four years ago.

The modern order of the Scottish Knights Templar commissioned Mr Cowie, 36, to analyse the painting for evidence of Rosslyn's links to the Templar legend.

While he found little evidence that the Templar symbols in the painting had ever existed inside the chapel in real life, he did spot the mysterious staircase.

Mr Cowie, who was born in Wick but now lives in Glasgow, said: "The book systematically examines the carved symbols and designs that some authors point to as evidence of Templar symbology within the chapel and reveals them to be common symbols in everyday Christianity.

"While a lot of the Templar symbols in the painting don't tie up with features within Rosslyn Chapel, the most interesting feature is the stairwell that also doesn't exist there today.

"It is possible that this stairwell is also the product of artistic license. However, there is a growing amount of scientific evidence from excavations and scans which seems to point to the existence of these chambers, so there is every possibility that this stairwell did exist and that it was once the entrance to the chambers."

Although he has no formal qualifications in archaeology or symbology, Mr Cowie's experience stems from nearly a decade of research into Scottish legends and symbols. Like many people he came to Rosslyn after being captivated by its alleged links to the grail but soon found these theories wanting and turned to some of the real mysteries surrounding the chapel.

He now delivers lectures on the international science festival circuit, is an elected member of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland, and also holds the rank of Knight Officer in a modern Order of the Scottish Knights Templar.

He said: "It would be fair to call me a reformed grail fanatic, but if my research does lead to the discovery of a hidden chamber containing the holy grail or a hoard of Templar treasure, I will be claiming finder's rights.

"The first thing I'll buy is a fedora hat and a bull-whip, because these things belong to the realms of fiction or what I term the 'loony fringe' of Rosslyn research.

"The chambers won't contain any of these things but, thanks to the results of some 3D scanning work that's going to be published in the next few months, we may be close to finding out what it does contain."

WHAT COULD THE LOST VAULTS CONTAIN?
The Holy Grail:Some say the cup of Christ is encased in Rosslyn's Apprentice Pillar – could it be in the vaults instead?

The remains of Mary Magdelene: Some authors have translated the phrase 'Holy Grail as "sangraal", which can also be translated as "royal blood". Did Mary Magedelene carry a child and the bloodline of Jesus to Rosslyn?

The lost treasure of the Knights Templar: The Templars built their Scottish headquarters at Balantrodoch, a few miles from Rosslyn, but when they were brought to trial in Edinburgh for heresy in 1309, the St Clairs of Rosslyn testified against them. Did the St Clairs steal their treasure and bury it under the church?


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  • Last Updated: 04 September 2009 10:39 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Rosslyn Chapel
 
1

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 04/09/2009 12:02:33
Ask Gibson as he would have been there.
2

Dragonlord,

04/09/2009 12:02:35
Holy Grail batman!! That would be some find!
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Kenny Ex pat in the US,

florida 04/09/2009 12:31:49
can you tie a bow? ex edinburgh 1338
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Kenny Ex pat in the US,

king solomons temple 04/09/2009 12:33:33
only the chosen ones will get the above


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


conspiracy
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33rd degree and rising,

London 04/09/2009 12:50:12
As well as a knot - Kenny! Now behave yourself. I'm going away up to Rosslyn tomorrow to cover the story about this painting as it's causing quite a stir in the academic community down here. Although the author of the book rejects all of the usual Rosslyn/Templar connections upto the date on this painting, it pretty much proves the Rosslyn - Templar connection existed and opens up the case for all the other claims.

Whats your mothers maiden name?

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digestive biscuits returns,

04/09/2009 12:53:30
...also, what is your National Insurance number ?
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Chico Pumpernickel De La Constipationé,

04/09/2009 12:53:48
#4 Beat it Richey!
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antifa,

04/09/2009 12:56:54
5 how does it prove the connection? It was painted in 1836.
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33rd degree and rising,

04/09/2009 13:09:23
#8. It proves a historical connection existed between the Templars and Rosslyn from atleast 1836! Academics reject 'all' connections between the two as no evidence existed. This painting is a smoking gun and forces the ideas about Rosslyn and the Templars to be re-evaluated. Don't you think?
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It's Leith for me!,

04/09/2009 13:50:12
how come nobody's ever used ground radr to see if there are any 'hidden' chambers under Rosslyn - why's it always secret clues found in paintings when somebody's got a book coming out - if I had a suspicious nature......
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Foo,

04/09/2009 14:03:09
Just wait till you see what I'm going to 'prove' next Monday! Edinburgh castle was built by diplodocuses enslaved by their T-Rex overlords.

I have a picture to prove it that was definitely not painted by me using my imagination.
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33rd degree and rising,

04/09/2009 14:10:36
10# Rosslyn was scanned in 1999 by Edinburgh Uni and again this year by the Glasgow School of Art. The last sentence in Cowies book is something like 'Modern technology will very soon answer this age old question'. If there are chambers and they are accessed at the bit shown in the painting, I suppose the author or his publisher are in the running for a finders fee or royalties for any relics or treasure thats recovered.
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bufp,

04/09/2009 14:11:59
Foo, leave that type of comment to Jaco - he does it so much better.
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Foo,

04/09/2009 14:16:28
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Do I hear a comment nazi?

The only thing you excel at is nasty comments. Keep them to yourself.
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Big bob 79,

04/09/2009 14:17:30
Da Da Dah Dahhh Dah Dah Da Da Dah Dahh Dah Dah
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Mikey,

Carstairs Junction 04/09/2009 14:24:53
the apinting proves that the painter knew of templars in 18 canteen. Is that surprising?
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bufp,

04/09/2009 14:42:39
No Foo, you read my polite statement of the obvious.

The only thing you heard were the strange little voices in your head.

As for being nasty, hold up a mirror sometime.
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Anonym,

on the wind up 04/09/2009 14:50:45
#13

Foo makes a VERY good point about paintings (Art) essentially being works of imagination, and as such, are not to be taken as literal proof of anything relating to the subject matter.

Having said that, Jaco probably would have done it better.
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Foo,

04/09/2009 14:54:18
You don't know the meaning of polite.

You sneer and critisice at every opportunity.

Other than slagging of other people's comments, you bring nothing to this forum. This is called trolling, and it's not welcome.
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Foo,

04/09/2009 14:55:09
#18

Yes, thank you. That's the point I was trying to make.

I agree jaco could well indeed have done it better.
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Eoo,

04/09/2009 15:05:01
The naughty man is being nasty to us again, isn't he? Because we likes sucking up to Jaco.

We loves to pick fights with everyone, but we brings nothing to this forum that isn't called trolling, and it's no wonder we're not welcome.
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Unimpressed one,

04/09/2009 15:18:35
So we can look forward to Tom Hanks returning then?
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D Williams,

04/09/2009 16:35:07
#23 Absolutely - "The Da Vinci Code and the Templar of Doom".....
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Professor22,

lochgelly 04/09/2009 18:00:27
"The modern order of the Scottish Knights Templar commissioned Mr Cowie, 36, to analyse the painting for evidence of Rosslyn's links to the Templar legend"

I think youll find that it was a London Business Man that commissioned the book, not the templar order and can I ask why my entries have been deleted?
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Professor22,

lochgelly 04/09/2009 18:02:45
The book is nonsense written by someone who does not understand what he is talking about. Contact me if you need more information as it appears Johnston Press are censoring my comments on the book and their article?
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Professor22,

lochgelly 04/09/2009 18:04:30
At the beginning I said I was looking forward to seeing the “tangible proof”. I seem to be still looking for it. It isn’t in this book! There appears to be an overriding agenda by the author to create, or to provide proof for, a “non Masonic” Knight Templar Body. You may want to purchase the book for the nice photographs of the Chapel but to be honest most are easily available in other publications of the same ilk. If you must purchase the book I would recommend XXXXX who sold me the publication at £4.96, saving 54 percent of rrp . My recommendation to Ashley would be to research more thoroughly next time before going to press and take time to learn the subject matter better.
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33rd degree and rising,

Fife 04/09/2009 18:19:43
Its very apparent from the above posts that Mr Mcgowan is obsessed with both Cowie and his work. I suggest Cowie gets a body guard quickly as he's got himself a stalker. Scaaaaaary.
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Professor22,

lochgelly 04/09/2009 18:25:31
Obsessed, maybe, but not with Cowie. Just had enough of the cottage industry nonsense that deflects from the FACTUAL study of these issues.

The media doesn't help with its incestous relationship with publishers and them falling over each other to print this, and other, REVEALING stories!
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33rd degree and rising,

04/09/2009 18:43:29
Lighten up brother - it's Friday. If you are not obsessed with Cowie, you probably just fancy a bit of him. You know what they say about you Templars!!!
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Professor22,

lochgelly 04/09/2009 18:55:06
His liver with a nice Chianti. hmmmmmm
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is it me?,

Edinburgh 04/09/2009 20:21:11
I think I've spotted the Holy Grail in the painting.

It's in the form of a mysterious Holy rusty cold water cistern floating way above the secret stair in the painting.

Maybe the Holy Grail had to be that size to give eveybody at the Last Super a sook.


Aaaaarghh.
42

is it me?,

Edinburgh 04/09/2009 20:24:15
Pardon my spelling, My bowels are in an uproar over this.
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is it me?,

Edinburgh 04/09/2009 20:35:40
That thing at the back of the painting could be anything. Or nothing.
It looks too clunky, (architectural term), to be a balustrade to a secret staircase. More like a memorial tablet on a plinth. Since removed, if it ever existed.

As for the EEN's comparative modern photie. Can anyone see ANYTHING in the background?
44

is it me?,

Edinburgh 04/09/2009 20:53:04
I think the dude in the painting was a Dandy on his way to a Georgian fancy dress party and the painter, (not artist), superimposed him on a contemporary People's Friend cover.
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Explorer,

longniddry 05/09/2009 08:21:32
There is no mystery in this painting, other than how an artist could depict the figure of the man so well but distort and imaginatively decorate the background so inaccurately! Yes, there is a staircase behind the Pillar and it has been there since the 15th century when the Chapel was built. It was seen in the film of The Da Vinci Code and I walked down it and back up not so long ago. It's juts that the artist's perspective is not correct and he has shifted the stairs from behind the Pillar. This is called 'Artist's Licence'. Have a look at some of George Washington Wilson's photograph's in 'Rosslyn Chapel Revealed' (The History Press, 2009). Of course, you can't beieve everything you see in photographs either. One small detail - the technicolour stained glass behind the knight is not accurate either. From the shape of the window it is supposed to be the great East Window - which is at least thirty feet above ground level. Another imaginative touch.
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Templar75,

Edinburgh 05/09/2009 23:21:07
This is a load of rubbish, the painting is mirror fashioned as the pillar should be on the right hand side, as anyone will know who has visited the Chapel, the Crypt is on that side. I believe that the painter has put a staircase there to show that this is where the Crypt is. if the picture is downloaded, any program should be able to mirror it and only then will people see what I mean. Far to many writers are are making a fortune by writing garbage, trying to find codes and secret messages, it's all about making money from vulnerable people who don't know the in's and out's of the Chapel.

Templar
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Professor22,

lochgelly 06/09/2009 09:03:14
Templar75 - Right on Target......!
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hoblar,

06/09/2009 13:02:57
I am astonished that my post was removed, as I actually have been involved in Rossly Chapel for over a decade, and merely stated that the book basically shows somebody (unknown) posing with Templar Freemasonic regalia and a vague copy of the east side of Rossly Chapel as a backdrop.

I bought this book but found not an iota of information within that I didn't alsready know, having said that the author is very careful not to attach a Templar origin to Rosslyn Chapel, and that is because he spoke to very authoritive people who actually know that the first connection of Rosslyn to templars was created in the 18th century.

I also noted that beyond these mythical and invented stairs (which only descend a few feet or so, was a carving of horsed men that is NOT in Rosslyn, and therefore the author of the book about this painting didn't notice that the artist had put this there.

I also stated that Balantradoch was gifted to Bernard De Clairvaux in 1129 by King David I of Scotland, and therefore became the first templar ecclesiastical building outside the Holy Land, surely this couldn't have led to my informative post being removed.

I have never seen so many deleted posts, what on earth was commented upon after my own comment I wonder?

I don't give a kak about some zealot removing my comments, but they were observed and informed ones and I see no reason or benefit for them to have been deleted.\

To the professor character above-it doesn't matter who commissioned this book, it says nothing new about Rosslyn or the history that surrounds it (which has nothing to do with a grail or such-like) it is merely a book about a portrait that appears to have been posed in the Chapel in the 1830's, and as such there is no harm in that.
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Professor22,

lochgelly 06/09/2009 15:25:07
Hoblar,

My point re commissioning was around the veracity of the journalism!

I also bought the book but my critique (the deleted posts by admin above) must have not been "on message" as I have found the same as you, some nice photos of the chapel but no substance in the book. This is mearly a money making exercise with a pretence of aligning this painted individual with a non masonic KT order (and an agenda for Ashleys own KT group that was created in 2006 - not 2007 that the book suggests). Ill send you a copy of my review if you want to email at paulmagoo@btinternet.com)
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33rd degree and rising,

09/09/2009 13:24:23
Proff22 - AKA Paul Magoo. Having re-read Cowies book, I just don't get your drift? The book makes it very clear that the figure is most probably a Masonic KT. But because this cannot be 'absolutley' proved, the author keeps this point open for debate.

What is Ashley's own KT group called? and how does the book benifit them when they are not even mentioned in his book??? Am I missing something? It really is a fascinating painting and subject matter and I think your apparent obsession with Ashley might be distracting you from the painting.
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AcuteEnigma,

16/11/2009 21:46:54
I think the painting dates to the 1990's not the 1830's.


 

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