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Starbucks push for 24-hour opening



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Published Date: 16 June 2008
A BID by the Starbucks coffee chain to open 24 hours in Edinburgh is being blocked by police amid fears of disorderly late-night customers.
The shop on the Royal Mile, near Hunter Square, wants to stay open to serve hot drinks, sandwiches and pastries for the duration of the Edinburgh Festival in August.

However, the application has been opposed by Lothian and Borders Police, who cla
im it will lead to "incidents of disorder and disturbance", although no residents or community groups have objected.

City councillors will meet this week to discuss the application, which falls outside the normal trading hours allowed in the area. During the festival, food can be served until 2am on weekday nights or until 3am at weekends.

An inspector from the police licensing section, writing on behalf of the Chief Constable, said: "I have no doubt that should this application be granted, local residents may be subjected to incidents of disorder and disturbance throughout the night, and additional pressure would be placed upon police resources."

Starbucks has asked the council for permission to open 24 hours a day from August 1 until August 31. Only the lower level of the store would be open between the hours of 1am and 6am, serving take-away snacks.

The only other outlet for late-night food on this section of the High Street is the Clamshell chip shop.

Premises on nearby South Bridge can open much later, but this street falls within a different licensing section and has less night-time restrictions.

Bill Cowan, a spokesman for the Old Town Association, said: "Normally, we don't object to late licences during August, because it is the one month of the year when Edinburgh can let its hair down.

"But the police have been very good in the area recently, so if they are objecting, I will ask local people what they think."

Last year, extra police officers were deployed on regular foot patrols as part of a "zero tolerance" approach towards street drinkers in Hunter Square.



A spokesman for Starbucks said the firm would not comment before the meeting.





The full article contains 356 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 16 June 2008 11:32 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Royal Mile
 
1

Smasher,

16/06/2008 12:14:04
Welcome to Scotland. A forward thinking modern country. Its number one city where you can't get a coffee during its biggest festival unless the police say so. What a sh1t place this is. No wonder we all drink too much.
2

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 12:14:09
Do you need a licence to sell coffee and buns nowadays?

This city is being run by morons.
3

Foo,

ejinbara 16/06/2008 12:22:03
This police man character should do the right thing, remove the foot from his mouth and commit hara-kiri.

Couldn't agree with #1 and #2 more.
4

Raoul Duke,

16/06/2008 12:23:58
I’ve always found it mental that you cant go anywhere for a tea, coffee, biscuit, drink of water on the way home from the pub, club, cinema, work, walking the dog etc.

Never mind just August, such places should be open during the night 12 months of the year if they so wish.

Laughing stock.
5

Journalistic licence,

In a coffee hoose 16/06/2008 12:25:19
You can jist picture the scene - a caffeine-fuelled brawl ensues after someone's cappucino got spilt. There's blood and powdered chocolate everywhere as everyone piles in. The polis'll need a lot of tazers tae sort this lot out.
6

Feral Youth who make Gorgie Tony's life hell!,

16/06/2008 12:31:12
I'm sure given the billions a multi-national corporation like Starbucks makes they could easily afford to hire some of the taxi marshalls to stop all the yahs and luvvies stabbing and bottling one another. Ruddy thespians are nothing but trouble!
7

Sarcasm,

16/06/2008 12:39:40
There may well be trouble, when folk taste what they have paid for.
8

Jakey Rowling,

16/06/2008 12:39:41
I'm sure they will have plenty grounds for appeal.
9

elayne,

16/06/2008 12:45:04
prefer a cup o tea myself
10

elayne,

16/06/2008 12:45:06
prefer a cup o tea myself
11

vote them out,

crazy 16/06/2008 12:45:09

Yes being attacked by a bunch of latte louts is my number one fear. I suppose allowing thugs to drink 24/7, scream and fight in the middle of the street is a small price worth being to avoid caffeine addiction!
12

elayne,

16/06/2008 12:45:12
prefer a cup o tea myself
13

elayne,

16/06/2008 12:45:15
prefer a cup o tea myself
14

fresian,

edinburgh 16/06/2008 12:45:44
Good name no6

Oi! Did you spill my Mocchachino??

Outside Now!
15

vote them out,

16/06/2008 12:47:04

correction - worth paying to avoid caffeine addiction.

16

Jakey Rowling,

16/06/2008 12:47:58
A Latte license during the Festival seems reasonable to me.
17

Jenny MacArthur,

16/06/2008 12:48:22
Starbucks sells the worst coffee of any of the main chains... thin, insipid, tasteless. The only people who go there are taste-free gits.
18

Foo,

16/06/2008 13:01:32
#8,9,12,13

I'm confused. Is it coffee or tea you prefer?
19

Foo,

ejinbara 16/06/2008 13:03:23
#17 - Is there anything on this wee blue planet that you aren't angry at?
20

Jakey Rowling,

16/06/2008 13:15:58
#19
Don't Mocha fflicted.
21

Raoul Duke,

16/06/2008 13:16:02
The way this country is going i'm sure you'll soon have to be 36 or older to drink frappaccinos or skinny lattes...
22

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 13:16:58
I think the een have just worded it funny basically and it will go ahead. What was the name of the one down the side of the high court which used to be open until yon time ?

Anyway , this has nothing to do with me.
23

David Pantomime,

Leeds 16/06/2008 13:17:46
#17 - I disagree, I love Starbucks especially their frappuchinos and the extra large chocolate chip cookies. My one complaint is that they will probably only be able to find uglies for the graveyard shifts as the stunners who work in the Hunter Square branch on Saturdays surely have better things to be doing with their evenings.
24

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 13:27:19
23 I must meet these stunners.

You're young , good looking what do you want to do with your life ?

"earn 5 quid an hour selling coffees that cost 3p at 2 pound a shot to halfwits".
25

Pen Fold,

Here 16/06/2008 13:30:51
#23

doesn't matter if they just get the fuglies to work. if you have been out for 6 or 7 hours drinking and then go for a coffee to perk yourself up they'll probably look quite good.

don't want to waste your beer goggles on someone who is already hot...
26

David Pantomime,

16/06/2008 13:31:14
I'm guessing that at least some of them are students - if you're busy smoking pot and pretending to like arthouse cinema Monday to Friday you don't want a Saturday job that's too demanding
27

Urban Guerrilla,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:35:45
What moaning miseries the police are. Have they ever thought about trying to catch burglars instead?
28

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 13:38:51
27 easily identified by a black mask over the eyes and a dennis the menace jumper.

This is all a farce when you consider that places like "lava" and "ignite" are allowed to exist.

Anyway, nothing to do with me.
29

Florentine_Pogen,

16/06/2008 13:45:04
Whoa, wait till Kenny Richey discovers he can't get a skinny latte maccachino grande that tastes like dishwater at 4.00 am ........there'll be blood gurgling doon the High Street.
30

tomias,

Edinburgh 16/06/2008 13:45:06
No 28; me neither.
31

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 13:48:08
As long as they dont sell scottish things because I have no need for them. I dont like scottish things , most of them are scabby and tainted.
32

David Pantomime,

16/06/2008 13:54:08
#31 - that's a little harsh, I laike the naive charm of scottish things
33

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 14:02:23
I dont like english things much either apart from nice cathedral towns.
34

Florentine_Pogen,

16/06/2008 14:02:24
#32, True, Scotland is a local country for local people.
35

David Pantomime,

16/06/2008 14:10:16
is coffee a Scottish thing? - it seems like something a Scotsman might invent after waking up with yet another filthy whiskey-fueled hangover
36

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 14:12:22
Lets face it if people are stupid enough to want to go to Starbucks at 0500 let them.
37

Foo,

ejinbara 16/06/2008 14:15:23
Sukotorando, and ejinbara in particular has got to move with the time man!

Sipping mochachocalatto's at 4am as we browse Harvey Nics and grab a quick bite to eat at cheeseburgers r' us is a modern Scots right!

38

Foo,

ejinbara 16/06/2008 14:17:06
#35. It's a trap!

Don't feed the Morris dancing troll.
39

Disgruntled Black cab customer,

16/06/2008 14:31:24
Lets have Coffee Marshalls, problem solved.
40

The_Doctor,

The Real World 16/06/2008 14:33:38
Clearly the police haven't clocked that this late opening is for the benefit of the only people who matter in Edinburgh....the tourists.

As part of the Coonsul's strategy to be "a world-class, 24 hour European unleaded, carbon neutral tram-driven coffee culture" (or something) then this 24 hour opening is exactly the type of thing they should actually be encouraging.

Obviously, it just makes too much sense to have coffee available 24 hours during the festival. So clearly everyone in Edinburgh officialdom will be dead-set against it.
41

AD in sunny Livingston,

16/06/2008 14:56:42
Excellent idea. This should at best stop the violence - at least it would stop people moaning about the price of their pint in the pub!
42

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

, Newington Pun Factory 16/06/2008 15:20:21
I expect the police are afraid of patrons letting off steam and the subsequent violence percolating out into the southside.
43

Incandescent,

16/06/2008 15:23:54
#17 Jenny

Oh dear. Apparently your vitriol knows no bounds. I can only imagine your apoplectic rage at those who choose to drive to Starbucks... in a 4x4!
44

Edward,

16/06/2008 15:49:21
An inspector from the police licensing section, writing on behalf of the Chief Constable, said: "I have no doubt that should this application be granted, local residents may be subjected to incidents of disorder and disturbance throughout the night, and additional pressure would be placed upon police resources."
Especailly after having many cups of expresso and that caffiene high buzz!
45

tommy the jambo,

city centre 16/06/2008 15:52:56
this is just typical innit its festival time so lets get on our knees for the tourists!what about us edinburgh citizens who would love more shops to be open later as some of us are on wierd shifts,bye the way starbucks ia rank but that aint the point,as soon as festival homes intae veiw they cant do enough for the jugglers clowns and cross dressing english am dram brigade and thats just cooncil office staff!ach ye ken wiy ah mean,anyone got ticket for bill bailey tho,lol
46

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16/06/2008 15:56:32
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47

Edward,

16/06/2008 15:57:57
#17
You may be right, it actually all depends on the franchise holder and how they prepare the coffee (It should all be the same regardless of which shop you go into, but at the end of the day if the Franchisee starts to skimp on ingredients then you end up with rubbish coffee)
Starbucks in general is very good, but unfortunately the Starbucks here is just not the same as those in the country where it originates.
In addition the Coffee and food served is very overpriced
So its amusing that the Police would actually consider that there would be trouble if a Starbucks went 24/7 as the cost would prohibit some from venturing in
48

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/06/2008 16:09:32
I think 45 and 46 are miserable halfwits.

I dont understand this whole coffeeshop nonsense (we have slightly more interesting ones here in NL - but not much). But if they want to open late then I say Okay.

But it's not up to me. Or you.
49

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16/06/2008 16:18:34
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50

Foo,

ejinbara 16/06/2008 16:42:36
#45...no I don't know what you mean at all...

I'm guessing you're against the festival and all the resulting trade it brings to the city. Personally I enjoy it, I go and see a few shows and the atmosphere is great.

I actually believe it's people with your attitude and #46's that hold Scotland back. It's a shame.
51

Journalistic licence,

Doon the A1 16/06/2008 17:05:47
Just heard that Tranent cooncil have given permission for an all night coffee caravan to be parked in the high street and they are only tae serve the neds who can feed the stuff tae their big mad dugs and then they can baith go rampagin' through the streets bitin' aff ears and eating small kittens.
52

Ganjass,

16/06/2008 17:46:42
Typical fat lazy civil servants, can't actually be proactive and do what they are paid to do, protecting tax payers from tubes so that many can enjoy some civilised goodness.

So hey we'll just stop it happening, and go on our usual path of turning up too late for serious crime, and busting soft targets for hash and speeding offences!!
53

tumshie heid,

16/06/2008 21:16:24
What "incidents of disorder" is the police spokesman talking about? The fight at the police station as to who gets the last chocolate cookie perhaps?
How can Edinburgh as a city be taken seriously when we can't even have a coffee shop open 24hrs without the police objecting?
54

Bravetart,

16/06/2008 21:42:02
Do the police even know what Starbucks sell? Late night drinkers? I didn't think that meant coffee, right enough that lot can get rowdy, all tanked up on espresso, throwing their laptops around, kicking off in their Gapwear.

They sell donuts too (or at least I think they do) - did the police know that? Bet it would have made a difference.
55

Finbarr Saunders,

16/06/2008 21:54:43
I think some posters are missing the point with their comments about the police being overly cautious about some Festival goers sipping overpriced coffees. The article says the place will:

"... serve hot drinks, sandwiches and pastries ..."

All the drunks in the area will descend on this place for something to eat on their way home if the kebab and pizza places are closed. And that's when the trouble kicks-off.

56

Julian.,

edinburgh 16/06/2008 22:30:02
I actually agree with most of the comments, including Petrol Head which is unusual.

So, let's get this straight. We can get p!ssed out our minds until 5 in the morning but if we want to leave the pub early and get a coffee to sober up that's not possible. Brilliant, you couldn't make it up.
57

tommy the jambo,

17/06/2008 11:06:04
re48 -50 its called irony you tools, iv lived and worked in edinburgh all my life and very proud of it i was merely havin a bit o fun it,s people like YOU who hold us back narrow minded no sense of humour with nowt better to to do than judge a person by a four line comment,tw**ts
58

jimb4abobor2,

Edinburgh 21/06/2008 04:46:15
Sorry I dont understand this you can get pissed all night and create havoc on the street and stretch police to there limits but your not allowed to have a wee cup of tea and a sandwich and be peaceful. Could be you cant impose the same rate of tax on a coffee or a tea well ive seen everthing now is the police run by a labour majority I wonder.
59

celtic4,

USA 29/06/2008 04:54:01
Gosh, I cannot afford to go to a Starbucks in the daylight! Why would they want to be open all night for? Besides, it is said to be not all that right to taste it. I prefer a good Earl Grey myself.

 

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