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Published Date:
09 November 2007
ON day one of the official countdown to Scotland's decisive Euro 2008 qualifier with Italy tomorrow week, Alex McLeish made an impressive start to the psychological sparring that invariably precedes such occasions.
Having named a 25-man squad containing no surprises, McLeish insisted, whatever pressures may be exerted on the players taking part in the great showdown, the Scots' burden will be appreciably lighter than the one to be borne by the Italians.

In this respect, the national team manager made his case by highlighting the pronounced distinction between the expectations that prevail in the respective countries.

"The advantage we have in that regard is that our lads are already viewed as heroes for what they have achieved in the qualifying group," said McLeish. "Win, lose or draw in what will be our last match in Group B, our supporters know that the squad has achieved a position that couldn't have been dreamt of when the draw put us into a section with Italy, France and Ukraine.

"By beating France twice and then Ukraine in our last outing at Hampden Park, our players have been fantastic. They've already amassed 24 points from a series in which we set out thinking 18 would not only be a very respectable total, but as much as we could reasonably expect. It's different for the Italians. Their expectations don't just involve qualifying for the European Championship finals. That's something they would take for granted. As world champions, they will be expected to win the tournament, never mind just progress from the group.

"Yes, the build-up to the match may be pretty hysterical, but if the Italians were to lose it, the word "hysterical" will be too weak to describe the reaction that will take place in their country. For them, losing would be a disaster.

"The Italians are a great team, but they are also human, no matter how much experience they may have of these big occasions. France beat them and drew with them in Italy, and Lithuania also got a draw in the opening match of the campaign. They'll come to Glasgow a bit apprehensive about playing us, I have no doubt about that."

McLeish's conviction is underpinned by the various utterances that have come from rival camps, most notably from Raymond Domenech, the France coach. His interest could hardly be more relevant, since a victory for the Italians would almost certainly guarantee his own team's qualification.

Domenech has made pronouncements on the course of the qualifying section that have ranged from tipping Scotland to go through after their victory in Paris in September to his more recent observation that the dark blue shirts will lose their nerve next week.

"What that tells me is that they're a little apprehensive," said McLeish, when asked his thoughts of Domenech's remarks. "They and Italy are the ones with plenty to lose, not us."

Domenech had also said that the Scots would falter in Georgia last month, a prediction that came true when McLeish's team, diminished by injury and suspension, were beaten 2-0. But it is the resilience they have shown after such set-backs throughout the two-year campaign that encourages McLeish's faith in their ability to overcome the last, admittedly formidable obstacle.

"Our mentality is always to look forward, never back," he said. "The players who have been involved in the campaign have benefited from the great challenges they have faced. They've met them head on, they've lost some, but they have always responded magnificently.

"They've overcome setbacks that have involved either losing a match or something that's happened during a match. The Georgia match is in the past, as was the defeat by Ukraine in Kiev last year when we met them again last month and beat them 3-1 here. We have seen how our players have reacted to conceding an equaliser to both Georgia and Lithuania here."

At this stage, McLeish's fitness problems concern three of his six nominated strikers. Kenny Miller, Garry O'Connor and Craig Beattie all have injuries, although Miller would be the only probable first pick of the trio. He has a hamstring problem, but McLeish said yesterday he was expected to be available.

The manager confessed to being given a real scare when he heard of the appalling tackle from Benfica's Augustin Binya on Scott Brown that had the perpetrator sent off and caused the removal of the limping Celtic midfielder near the finish. He was informed by text in Barcelona, where he attended Rangers' Champions League match on Wednesday.

"My son texted me and said it was a scandalous tackle," said McLeish. "I asked if he had been stretchered off, but the replay was no, he's still playing. But, by yesterday (Wednesday), there were all kinds of rumours flying around about the seriousness of the damage.

"I had even had preliminary discussions with my assistants, Roy Aitken and Andy Watson, about how we might compensate for Scott's absence. But we then found out that he's fine and will be with us. Scott has become a significant player for us, so it is very good news. Now we have to wait and hope that the England-based players come through unscathed at the week-end."

The 25 men who carry a nation's hopes: how the squad has fared since Georgia

TWENTY three days have elapsed since the monumental letdown of the 2-0 defeat to Georgia in Tbilisi. Since then the Scotland players have been back at their clubs and playing against teams ranging from Barcelona to Barnsley. Here we assess how things have gone for the 25 men who will gather to plot the downfall of Italy and secure Scotland a first place at a major finals in a decade.

CRAIG GORDON (Sunderland)

Scored an unfortunate own goal against West Ham but has won the Sunderland fans over with a string of impressive performances. Will get no rest this weekend in the Tyne & Wear derby against Newcastle.

DAVID MARSHALL (Norwich)

Another Scotland keeper, another own goal, this time against Watford. Always likely to be Alex McLeish's third choice.

ALLAN MCGREGOR (Rangers)

Walter Smith described his performance against Barcelona as "exceptional" despite shipping two goals. Will be rested this weekend along with his Old Firm colleagues but barring injury to Craig Gordon he will be in a supporting role.

GRAHAM ALEXANDER

Worked hard to set up chances against Hull but couldn't prevent his side going down 1-0 and manager Steve Cotterill losing his job.

GARY CALDWELL (Celtic)

Has been playing at right back in what has been a mixed few weeks for Celtic, losing 3-0 to Rangers and in Benfica, but keeping at top of the league.

CHRISTIAN DAILLY (West Ham)

Loan period at Southampton extended after impressive showings in injury-hit side.

ALAN HUTTON (Rangers):

Helped restrict Thierry Henry and Co at Ibrox. Augurs well for the task of shackling the likes of Luca Toni at Hampden.

JAY McEVELEY (Derby)

Recovered from a neck problem and played in the 2-0 defeat by Aston Villa. Confidence could be low as part of a porous defence.

STEPHEN McMANUS (Celtic)

Was carried off with a bad looking head knock in Old Firm match but returned to face Benfica four days later. Has been a solid performer.

GARY NAYSMITH (Sheff Utd)

Worked well with James Beattie to beat Ipswich 3-1 and give manager Bryan Robson his first home win in the Coca-Cola Championship.

DAVID WEIR (Rangers)

Henry got the upper hand - literally - against him in Barcelona as he endured a torrid time which may be a useful experience when it comes to trying to subdue the glittering Italian forward line.

SCOTT BROWN (Celtic)

Fortunate to still to be walking on two legs after Benfica's Augustin Binya's horror tackle. He had earlier served notice of his value to Scotland with a high energy display against the Portuguese.

BARRY FERGUSON (Rangers)

A goal in the Old Firm match and a top-class display against Barcelona at Ibrox should have the skipper in good spirits. More of the same against Italy a necessity.

DARREN FLETCHER (Man Utd)

Thankfully has a few games under his belt, something sorely lacking in Georgia. Was not involved against Arsenal on Saturday but returned to play full 90 in 4-0 win over Dynamo Kiev.

PAUL HARTLEY (Celtic)

Has been one of Celtic's best performers of late, with a good showing against Benfica at Parkhead on Wednesday.

LEE McCULLOCH (Rangers)

Has been an ever present for Rangers but hasn't found the net since his wonder strike against Ukraine at Hampden.

STEPHEN PEARSON (Derby)

Has played in three winless games for Derby as their difficult Premier League campaign continues.

BARRY ROBSON (Dundee Utd)

His club-mates may not get a rest this weekend but he will after his sending-off in the 2-0 SPL defeat by Aberdeen ruled him out of tomorrow's home fixture against Kilmarnock. Has been a driving force in Dundee United's good current form and scored from the penalty spot in their win over Rangers

GARY TEALE (Derby)

Another suffering at Derby, although not as much as he would like as he is not a first-choice. Came on as a substitute in the defeat by Aston Villa and his rash tackle led to Martin Laursen opening the scoring.

CRAIG BEATTIE (West Brom)

Has proved himself in Scotland colours but his participation is in doubt as he is currently sidelined with a calf injury and a question mark hangs over whether he will even feature in the club's game against Coventry on Monday.

KRIS BOYD (Rangers)

On the bench more than he would like but the penalty-box predator has done what's asked of him anytime he is called upon. Didn't feature in Barcelona but scored two goals in his previous two starts to take his tally for the season into double figures.

JAMES McFADDEN (Everton)

A hero for Scotland but still struggling for a regular starting spot in Everton, where he has been mainly deployed as a sub or in the Carling and UEFA Cups. Started on bench against Nuremberg last night.

SHAUN MALONEY (Aston Villa)

A perennial bench warmer at Villa, the former Celtic forward got a 22 minute run-out in the 2-0 win over Derby and showed his goal threat when he drilled a low shot wide of the target with ten minutes left.

KENNY MILLER (Derby)

Did not feature against Aston Villa but the hopes of the Rams - and Scotland - have been boosted by the news that he took part in training as he looks to make a comeback from a groin injury.

GARRY O'CONNOR (Birmingham)

Hoping shake off a groin injury and feature in the Birmingham derby on Sunday against Villa. Has come off the bench in his last two games and is beginning to win over Blues fans and manager Steve Bruce .

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1

Wee Pal Joe,

09/11/2007 00:22:06

No surprises in the squad. It will be very tough against Italy - but not impossible.

2

Brisbane Gorgie,

Brisbane 09/11/2007 01:01:53

Does any Scots in Australia know where or what channel the Scotland vs Italy game is getting played on? Doesn't look like Setanta are showing it!

3

Rancho Relaxo,

Melbourne 09/11/2007 01:10:21

#2 - Keep an eye on the Setanta website. They are not showing it on the domestic channel which is their usual tactic to get us all to turn out to their Pay Per View venues. There is a note on their website saying that they will reveal their PPV games shortly. If they are not showing it, there is always the chance that it will turn up on Foxsports or SBS. Foxsports showed the last Italy game at Hampden while SBS showed the one in Italy. With the game being so important, I suspect that Setanta are going to use it to make as much money as possible and drag us all out to their pubs.

4

JB2003,

Hong Kong 09/11/2007 01:38:40

Can't wait for this game! Great stuff from McLeish!

5

Dons & Crows R AFC,

Adelaide 09/11/2007 02:51:27

#2 - Given the importance & that it's Italy we're playing SBS Should show it, check out the "World Game " on SBS on Sat. for a preview of what they are showing during the next week.

6

Sydney Arab,

Sydney, Australia 09/11/2007 02:57:49

#2 - I had a look earlier today and found that ESPN will be showing the game live. ESPN is available on Foxtel.

Only downer is that because it is a 5pm kick off on the Saturday in Scotland, the game doesn't get underway until 4am on Sunday on the east coast of Australia. Better get the coffee brewing.

7

Manly Scot,

Australia 09/11/2007 02:58:32

#2, ESPN is showing the game live in Australia. It's listed in the Foxtel magazine and the ESPN website (http://intltv.espn.com/schedules/calendar.jsp). It'll be a 5am start in Brisbane (and no I don't know any bars in town that have ESPN and will be open at that time on a Sunday morning). I'll be watching it at home in Sydney. There's a replay on the Sunday night.

8

Manly Scot,

Australia 09/11/2007 03:00:52

Re #7, the game is at 3am Brisbane time (4am Sydney). Sorry!

9

Pete Smith,

sydney 09/11/2007 03:06:07

Score Bar for Sydney at Star City - be there early should be over 200 there!!

Rosie O'Gradys, Northbridge for Perth

Pig N Whistle for Brisbane.

These are the official venues for the Tartan Army Downunder. see www.tartanarmydownunder.com for more info.

Come On!!

10

Jon Bon Jovi,

09/11/2007 03:07:44

another tabloid misleading headline...

11

OZZYBEAR,

Brisvegas 09/11/2007 03:31:12

#2
Wait till Sunday and check the TV Guide for SBS They might show the game they already showed the game v Ukraine and lith.

12

Johnny Jambo,

09/11/2007 06:33:09

I still cant believe the situation we are in. Wouldn't we have all taken third place as a success in this group at the start and here we are with a real chance of qualifying.
I know it will be tough to beat Italy but it was always going to be tough to beat france home and away.
Alex is right, they will be heroes no matter what, this has been a really great campaign and we have had results beyond our wildest dreams and to be fair none of the typical Scotland type of results, the closes to that was against Georgia away but we did have the majority of our top players missing for that game so we were unfortunate.
Go on Scotland lets do it.

13

Exiled in Sydney,

sydney 09/11/2007 06:58:40

Any scots wanting to go out and watch the game then go to www.tartanarmydownunder.com closer to next week. Sydney has it at the score bar in Star city even if the times on the website are a bit off just now.

There was about 60 odd out with them for the Ukraine game and was a great laugh

14

Black & White Triumph,

Oz 09/11/2007 07:31:11

WIN = SuperHeroes

DRAW = Heroes

Lose = Disappointed Heroes

C'mon Scotland do it

15

THe jet,

Italy 09/11/2007 07:31:45

Thought i'd share the view and reports across here folks.
Scotland has already been written of by nearly all the television sports programs and papers (as has Celtic against Milan) the supporters are regarding this game as a walk in the park and i'm hoping this will rub of on some of the players.
Tardelli who scored for Italy in the final in Spain 82 and is now a critic and commentator on Rai for all that is football said on Tuesday and i quote " Milan on the domestic front are not playing well but in Europe are showing what true champions they are and like the Italian national side will qualify with ease"
All i can say is that next Saturday i hope Scotland get the result and stick it side ways where it hurts to the Italians the only thing being is that i will have to hide my car(still got british plates and a tartan army sticker in the back window) for at least a couple of months,mind you i would gladly pay for a smashed windscreen if the boys got the right result.

16

Scot-free,

The Hague 09/11/2007 07:45:01

Mr Gibbon

You are either lazy or an EEDJIT, fact; a victory for Italy consigns us to interested spectators come Euro 2008. How can you make such a glaring mistake! My Dutch girlfriend is more clued up than you! You should be delivering newspapers rather than dozy articles which are not only factually inaccurate but also bereft of any new or revealing insight.

17

Johnny Jambo,

09/11/2007 08:20:15

#17 Scot-free, I have read this article over again thinking I had missed something, I cannot see anywhere in the article where Glenn Gibbons says anything other than that.
All he is saying is that regardless of the outcome Scotland wil have had a fantastic campaign.
Unless I am missing something, can you point me to the para or sentence to which you are referring

18

Doc Martin,

Dundee 09/11/2007 08:59:34

I think #17 might be referring to

"McLeish's conviction is underpinned by the various utterances that have come from rival camps, most notably from Raymond Domenech, the France coach. His interest could hardly be more relevant, since a victory for the Italians would almost certainly guarantee his own team's qualification"

Anyway, we can all be extremely proud of what the national team has achieved over the past 3 years. Even the most optomistic person wouldn't have believed that we would still be in the hunt going into the last match.... funny though, had we one in Georgia, I wonder if this would have been just a goaless kick about just to piss off the French?

19

Doc Martin,

Dundee 09/11/2007 09:01:42

BTW a victory for Italy certainly guarentees France and Italy go thru..... there is no ALMOST about it!!

20

Puffinjambo,

09/11/2007 09:10:04

Great campaign whatever happens. Probably the best thing to come out of it though will be the seedings come qualifying for the next World Cup - it should see us avoid another group like the one we are in at the moment. That said a fully fit squad, a passionate Hampden and perhaps an over-confident Italy - who knows? Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war!!

21

Märiö Antoinette,

09/11/2007 09:19:37

I havent tried this link , but I'm assured it works.. free live sat tv football for those abroad etc.

I know that there is a small download required , but it's free. Why and how , I don't know.

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/.html

22

zizou,

dudley 09/11/2007 09:20:10

err........

23

zizou,

dudley 09/11/2007 09:22:01

scotland arnet goin to loose especially if james mcfadden comes in from the ledt like usual hell tear the defence apart think about it adged 30+ italians

24

Archie MacT,

Edinburgh 09/11/2007 09:31:16

Agree with many of the comments on here. Win, lose or draw this campaign has been immense and bodes well for the world cup qualifiers. I got my ticket for the game in the post today so I am already. If only it was tomorrow.

Italy are a very good team but not unbeatable. Look at the record at Hampden. 5 games, 5 wins. And remember these recent(ish) results at hampden

Scotland 1 France 0
Scotland 1 Netherlands 0
Scotland 1 Italy 1
Scotland 1 Germany 1

None of the big teams coming away with a victory and a couple of them beaten.

And then this one

France 0 Scotland 1

We need a performance like that and a slice of luck to make it. COME ON SCOTLAND!

25

zizou,

the north 09/11/2007 09:35:54

scotland are going to be a formidable team in the next 4,5 years there producing some great talents and beating italy will justify that

26

Johnny Englander,

09/11/2007 09:51:28

#25

Don't underestimate the 1-0 specialists. Because the Italians need to win this, they'll be diving all over the place, so McCulloch and Brown beware.

There's 2 sides to every coin, and don't forget these recent results at Hampden also:

Scotland 0 - 2 England
Scotland 0 - 1 Norway
Scotland 0 - 1 Belarus

I can't stand those greasy wops so I'll be happy to see Scotland through.

27

Greenanwhite1,

embra 09/11/2007 09:52:00

glad to see nobody getting carried away. on the face of it there's no way we can beat the italians. on the face of it but you just never know, you just never know. all things are possible

28

Pushkin,

09/11/2007 09:59:36

27. And no doubt the Italians speak highly of you too.
Whatever happens in the game, we can hold our heads up high after the campaign. I wonder just how many other of the home nations can say that?

29

Johnny Englander,

09/11/2007 10:23:54

N. Ireland - most impressive out th elot, beating (and holding) Sweden, also Spain.

England(if they qualify) - should be relieved and the clueless McClaren should be sacked anyway. Although qualifying for every for the last 12 years isn't that bad. Italy may not get there, and Holland missed out on 2002, France 1990 and 1994.

Wales - awful campaign.

Scotland - Always like McClesih the way he conducted himself when some Rangers fans were crucifying him.

Scotland are standing in the way of Italy qualifying, and I would like to see Italy fail. And I definitely would say the same if it was against those Germans or the Frogs.

30

Märiö Antoinette,

09/11/2007 10:28:56

If we were playing Frogs, I'd like to hope we'd win.

31

Scot-free,

09/11/2007 10:31:22

Johnny Jambo here you are


McLeish's conviction is underpinned by the various utterances that have come from rival camps, most notably from Raymond Domenech, the France coach. His interest could hardly be more relevant, since a victory for the Italians would almost certainly guarantee his own team's qualification.

Now according to my calculations (which hardly amounts to rocket science!) if Italy win they will have 26 points, France already have 25 and we will be left, as it is our last game, with 24 points. I rest my case.

32

Greenanwhite1,

embra 09/11/2007 10:32:15

#30 .....and we would definitely say the same if it was against those english

33

Grimsby Hibee,

In the Dam 09/11/2007 10:35:07

I remember listening to an interview with late great Jimmy Johnstone, he was talking about when Celtic played Inter in the final, he said something along the lines of (at kick off) 'we stood there looking up at these big Italian guys, they were all confident, super fit world class players and they kinda looked down their noses at us, and all Ronnie (Simpson) wanted to know was where to put his false teeth' eventually I believe behind the goal posts.

We can do it! Believe!

Alba Gu Brath

34

AJ of Fife,

09/11/2007 10:41:35

This could be easier than we think! The Italians have all the pressure and they struggle with their temprement, so it could be, Scotland will thump a nine or ten man Italian side by 2 or 3.

What IS crucial is a strong and just referee. Maybe a Scandinavian or a Russian. A Russian one would be perfect, cos we could remind him there were Italian divisions fighting on the Russian front!

35

Grimsby Hibee,

In the Dam 09/11/2007 10:47:41

# AJ I would prefer a Scottish referee ;)

36

Grimsby Hibee,

In the Dam 09/11/2007 10:50:27

# AJ I would prefer a Scottish referee ;)

37

Not Me,

......welcome my friends to the show that...... 09/11/2007 10:59:04

...and so to the main event .......

38

AJ of Fife,

09/11/2007 11:48:20

Rorie,

They only succeed if the referee turns a blind eye to all the Italian cheating, diving and play acting!

Maybe a French referee would be good!

39

Magic Hoops 2,

Fife, Scotland 09/11/2007 11:52:43

#39

Rise to the occasion??? All italians apparently have small ****'s so i can see Scotland doing alot more rising at Hampden than the Italians as you apparently claim

40

Media 1,

cape town 09/11/2007 11:53:10

The game is on live here.

The good thing about this team is that in their heart of hearts, they know they can do it. They have beaten France and Ukraine in this group at home, there is no reason why they cant beat Italy.

If they want it badly enough and scrap for every ball, they will qualify.

41

Magic Hoops 2,

Fife, Scotland 09/11/2007 11:53:11

Awrite thair AJ pal!!

42

AJ of Fife,

09/11/2007 12:50:08

Magic,

No bad neebs, yersel?

43

BillWatson,

Canada 09/11/2007 13:37:07

www.myp2p.eu

will have lots of links for live coverage for the game on the day itself.

You will probably have to download some software (free) to watch the match on a computer.

44

Magic Hoops 2,

Fife, Scotland 09/11/2007 13:38:31

No bad AJ

Managed tae stay awa fae the clutches o the big hairy lorry driver fae Scunthorpe.....mouth herpes are quite aff puttin ken what a mean :D

45

wattie>x 1,

09/11/2007 14:44:43

Let's not get carried away? We have a near impossible task ahead, but as my old grandfather used to tell me as a small lad when growing up in Ayrshire: NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE; IF YOU'RE EARNEST ENOUGH.
I sincerely hope his "auld" saying comes good on this special occasion. It will be a well deserved reward for the endeavour of our young fitba' team. who have battled against all the odds.
The very best of fortune for them, on that day!

46

HADDEN SHOULD GO NOW!,

edinburgh 09/11/2007 16:41:28

JOin the facebook petition that barry robson should start for scotland. A simple 'search' for barry robson will reveal the group. Join it.

47

Rebel,

South Carolina USA 09/11/2007 19:05:15

No doubt Scotland has a formidable adversary, but after beating France twice and Ukraine, Scotland has shown it's character as a force to be reckoned with. Alex McLeish is correct: the burden is on Italy. As shown by #15 "The jet" above, Italy is convinced of their side's superiority. Win, lose or draw Scotland faces Italy with the wind at their backs and the prospect of a splendid victory.

48

Forbes Presbyterian,

Hunbury 09/11/2007 19:30:16

49 - Should he start at Rugby, surely not hes not good enough. hes not even good enough to start for the football team.

Are mental son?

49

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09/11/2007 22:11:27
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50

AJ of Fife,

09/11/2007 22:23:30

#52,

You sound the type of lad who's Dad should've left you sticking to the sheets after he pumped your Mum!

It's also a disgrace that they let inmates in Castairs have access to a PC.


 

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