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Sweet Dreams for SNP as Annie backs independence



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Published Date: 27 June 2008
ANNIE Lennox, one of the most successful musicians in the world, has always refused to be drawn into the debate over independence in her native Scotland. Yesterday, however, in a massive boost for the SNP, she became the most high-profile convert to the cause for nearly 40 years.
The star, who is due to perform at Nelson Mandela's 90th birthday concert in London today, told The Scotsman that she now believed Scotland could set a global example for what a small country could do.

Lennox, who has sold 80 million records worldwide and won an Academy Award for her songwriting, said she wanted to see a modern, forward-thinking and environmentally friendly Scotland.

"In that way, if Scotland was to be independent, and it had that kind of vision, I would back it completely," she said.

Her public endorsement of independence represents a major fillip for a cause that has previously had to rely on the actor Sir Sean Connery as its only internationally known celebrity supporter.

But her backing of independence – even though it is conditional on Scotland becoming an ecologically sound, nuclear-free country – also shows how far she has moved politically.

In the past, the Aberdeen-born former Tourists and Eurythmics star kept out of debate on the future direction of the country, backing a referendum on independence but insisting that she did not know enough about it to get involved and that it was up to Scots to decide their future.

Now, though, Lennox has decided to speak out for the first time to give her support to at least the principle of independence, without necessarily backing the SNP's policy platform.

Speaking ahead of her appearance at this year's Festival of Politics at the Scottish Parliament, she said: "You know when the first idea of Scotland being independent came to people's ears, in the late 1960s early 1970s, and I was living in Scotland then, it seemed very eccentric at the time. You know, why? What do you need that for? Is not this some sort of very sentimental view where we are looking inwards rather than outwards?

"But, as time has gone on, I think I can see some benefits to Scotland in a certain kind of way."

She went on: "I wouldn't like to see Scotland missing out on the bigger picture, but at the same time I think Scotland has missed out on things as a country.

"I think Scotland could take a stand in a wonderful way, ecologically and morally and ethically. Scotland could stand for something in the way that Norway has done historically. We could say, this will be a country which is a nuclear-free zone and this will be a country which will tackle the issues like the depletion of the environment around the coastline, for example, and our fishing stocks are so depleted now we are going to have a no-take zone; this type of thing. I would love to see those things, the visionary things, in Scotland."

Asked whether she was open to the arguments over independence, she replied: "Oh, completely. There is an opportunity for something innovative and visionary. I can see that happening. Yes.

"Scotland could have some kind of new, ethical, visionary stance and it could take on some fresh ideas. That could be amazing, really amazing.

"If you think about the issues of the planet, it could be so sweetly represented in a small country like Scotland, in terms of the environment, in terms of trying to tackle issues of inner-city violence, of drug problems, these things.

"All the issues that contemporary society has today, Scotland could be a beautiful example of a way forward, if it was open and not too reactionary – just to say 'no we are not going to have genetically-modified crops, we are not going to have that' – I could see that as a blueprint for something."

Lennox, 53, has been active in international political movements for decades. When she was in the Eurythmics, the band backed Amnesty International and Greenpeace.

Later, she supported charities such as Children in Need and Hear the World, a campaign to spread awareness about deafness, as experienced by her late father, who had worked in Aberdeen's shipyards.

Now Lennox is campaigning on behalf of women in southern Africa who are affected by the HIV/Aids pandemic and has launched a music movement, Sing, to raise money for HIV/Aids education.

She told The Scotsman she did not plan on returning to Scotland to live but insisted Scotland was always with her. "I have always felt a little homeless. It's a strange thing. Although I have lived in London, I have never really considered London my home because it was always going to be a stopping-off point for me, and it has been too.

"I have lived a very peripatetic existence. I have always travelled and travelled and arrived back and then left. I see myself as a traveller. I don't see myself as someone who's too strongly identified with a national identity."

But she added: "I am certainly deeply identified with aspects of Scotland. I have never lost my accent and Scotland is with me every day because, in my mind, it comes into my head; there isn't a day it doesn't come in. But I suppose the Scotland that I left is a different one from what it is now."

The SNP spent much of the run-up to last year's Holyrood elections trying to woo the country's business community, aware that the backing of senior financiers and business leaders would help ease doubts about its ability to govern.

The party secured the endorsement of Sir George Mathewson, the former chairman of the Royal Bank of Scotland, and the money and public backing of Stagecoach millionaire Brian Souter and the entrepreneur Sir Tom Farmer.

But while the Nationalists have been successful in securing business support, they have really had only Sir Sean Connery to promote their message on the international stage, until now.

Sir Sean was first identified as a Nationalist in 1969 and was on the long-list for the West Fife seat at that stage – but then it was realised that he was not a party member.

The former James Bond star's pro-independence leanings were well known through the 1970s and the 1980s, but it was not until 1991 that he actually got involved with the SNP, doing a voiceover for a party political broadcast.

That involvement deepened as Sir Sean started to use some of his own money to help fund the SNP, and he developed a close relationship with Alex Salmond, now First Minister, which has continued to this day.

However, the addition of someone as respected and well known in the music industry as Lennox, particularly as she has a track record of political involvement, will take the Nationalists' message to a much wider audience than before.

Connery by far the biggest name in list of Nationalists' celebrity supporters

THE SNP's most famous backer is the former James Bond star Sir Sean Connery, whose Nationalist sympathies have been well known for decades.

However, it was not until 1991 that he got actively involved with the SNP, recording a voiceover for a political broadcast.

Since then, he has donated about £50,000 to the party and developed a close relationship with Alex Salmond, the party's leader.

Other stars have turned to the SNP after losing faith with Labour. Robert Carlyle, the actor, made it clear last year that he was going to vote SNP – even though he did not believe in independence – because he had become disillusioned with Labour.

Elaine C Smith, the comedian and actor, moved to the SNP after years as a Labour supporter, while the Nationalists can also count on the support of one of the two Proclaimers (Charlie Reid now backs the Scottish Socialists, but brother Craig is still SNP).

Highland rockers Runrig were mostly SNP supporters and even provided the party with an MP, in the shape of bass player Pete Wishart. But Donnie Munro, the former lead singer, went the other way and became a Labour candidate.

The SNP has had some other recent converts in the arts world, including the Scots singer Sandi Thom, the artist Peter Howson and the Trainspotting author Irvine Welsh.


The full article contains 1398 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 26 June 2008 8:01 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
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1

Angus Ogg,

26/06/2008 22:18:20

This, is precisely Labours problem.

Not the SNP die hards, but those former Labour, or politically neutral converting to SNP.

The floating voters.

These Boards are often (as they also say about Arran) Scotland in miniature.

The best Labour has, is evidenced day in and day out.

The difficulty is the best Labour now has is simply not good enough and Labour is losing, no, haemorrhaging votes, voters and supporters to the SNP.

Wee me too :@)

Criminal Wendy, how do you like them apples !
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27/06/2008 00:10:52
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27/06/2008 00:11:36
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slap-dash,

Border Patrol 27/06/2008 00:13:25
Angus !

We`re apparently not allowed to comment on those apples !
In any paper ! Mouths sewn tightly shut over at the herald too !
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slap-dash,

Border Patrol 27/06/2008 00:16:38
On a personal note , I always liked Annie Lennox.






Like her even more now ! ha ha ha ha ha ha !
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27/06/2008 00:19:35
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SlyFifer,

California 27/06/2008 00:20:44
Can't thank Labour enough for all they have done to destroy the Union. Can't thank previous governments enough for lying and obvuscation in relation the truth about Scotlands ability to stand alone.
Not sure though and not at all convinced that the SNP can best represent Scotland as an independant state. Feel, and have done for a while that there needs to be a new force in Scottish politics, another independance party maybe a bit more centre orientated, maybe republican even, maybe anti nuclear weapons,maybe anti imperialism and war mongering, just saying.
I will return to Scotland September after a number of years away. A new force would be nice to see and to rally around.
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27/06/2008 00:20:48
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MisterN,

Scotland 27/06/2008 00:24:19
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Exactly Angus there is a major seismic shift in Scottish politics as more and more people see a Scottish Government working in Scotland for Scotland.
The SNP election win exposed the London controlled Scottish parties for what they are.
Subordinate to the needs of the South East of England.
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27/06/2008 00:24:57
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MisterN,

Scotland 27/06/2008 00:25:30
9

More than you I bet. Certainly more than Gordon Brown his cabinet and the Royal family all put together.
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27/06/2008 00:26:09
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MisterN,

Scotland 27/06/2008 00:26:58
7

Nearly as much as the tax imposed by London Labour eh?
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ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:26:59
Number: 6.

Be quite. Everyone has the right to an opinion but I wished you didn't.

So what if these people do not live in Scotland? Thousands of people travel the world and found better lives elsewhere but for some reason they are not allowed to comment on their native countries and support what they think is right?

Sean Connery can enndorse whatever whiskey he wants. I am sure he is making lots from it to. But at least he donates to the SNP who then campaigns for Independence.

Funny how the world works, eh?
15

Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 00:27:23
7. You mean adverts like this one?:

http://tinyurl.com/6khrd9

Some Scottish nationalist he is. Living in the Bahamas, taking shiny medals from that nasty, nasty UK and selling Japanese Whiskey.

Tut, Shir Shawn. Tut.
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27/06/2008 00:28:29
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27/06/2008 00:30:24
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Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 00:31:01
Whoa, Annie! What are you saying?!

"our fishing stocks are so depleted now, we are going to have a no-take zone"

Annie Lennox believes we should stop fishing altogether!

Mind you, that fits in with Salmond thinking we should stop shipbuilding altogether too.
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ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:32:14
17 Number: 6

The Royal Family now?

The same family who remain neutral on POLITICAL issues?

It does not matter to the Royals if Scotland goes Independent because the Queen is still our head of state.
20

Am Balach,

Isle of Skye 27/06/2008 00:36:26
Highland Mighty

You are so boring. Really, really boring.
21

McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 27/06/2008 00:37:16
Begone Highland Mighty, aka "British Pride." Advertising Jap Whiskey is hardly the crime of the century.




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Sanny,

27/06/2008 00:37:48
8 SlyFifer
I believe I responded to you on a similar posting. There is another nationalist party, other than the SNP, it is the SEP. From the few points expressed in your post, the SEP would seem to meet your political view of a right of centre party, Visit the Realm of Scotland web site.
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27/06/2008 00:40:39
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Mercian,

UK 27/06/2008 00:42:16
I like Annie Lennox and used to find her quite sexy in her younger days.

She appears to have a very idealistic vision of what she think's an independent Scotland will represent, as if her personal values will be the government's vision. I've noticed nationalists on these boards speak similarly; they talk as though an independent Scotland will only have one voice. Of course the reality is with England out of the equation there will still be a left and right; some people for nuclear energy; some for Europe others against, and so on...

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MisterN,

Scotland 27/06/2008 00:44:05
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So It does show their lack of concern for "North Britain" compared to "South Britain" though eh?

You never make points you troll it aint the same thing ask yer mum.
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Stepford Nat,

1984 27/06/2008 00:45:09
Bring on Newspeak!

www.snp.org.uk - no Sex Crime here - we're the Ministry of Plenty!
27

ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:45:11
24 Number: 6

"ThomasP - Does not matter to the Royals? How would you know?"

They have to remain POLITICALLY NEUTRAL AND CAN NOT FAVOUR ANY PARTY OR POLICIES.

"There is a strong republican presence amongst SNP activists."

And I bet you can find the same presense anywhere else. It has cross party support with about 40% of the public still support the monarchy. The SNP represent an Independent Scotland with the Queen as our Head of State.

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MisterN,

Scotland 27/06/2008 00:46:17
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And that great union stalwart Rupert Murdoch? where does he spend most of his time when he isnt directing his media empire to abuse their positions of journalistic responsiblity?
29

ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:47:07
25 Mercian,UK

The majority in the Scottish Gov are against nuclear all together and Pro-European.

The country may be divided but the Parties aren't
30

Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 00:52:17
28. They also fiercely protect Scottish banknotes....but believe Scotland should join the Euro....which will mean the end of Scottish banknotes.

They also believe we would be better off in the Euro because we have little influence in the BoE's monetary decisions.....even though we would be all but irrelevant in a Eurozone of 400m people, where the needs of Germany, France and Italy are the priority.

Do you get the feeling the SNP don't know what they are doing?
31

ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:52:35
24 Number: 6

"I would guess that the Royals would want a United Kingdom. In fact its a nobrainer."

What about the Common Wealth countries? The Queen is their Head of State and therefore we shoudl force them back in the 'Empire?

No? Course not. Get over yourself. The Royals are politically neutral and loose nothing through and Independent Scotland.
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McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 27/06/2008 00:54:04
#31, British Pride

Liebour's belief in our participation in an illegal war is hardly a shining example of a party knowing what they're doing.
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ThomasP,

27/06/2008 00:55:04
Highland Mighty.

If we did join the Euro then we would produce Scottish Euro notes.

Other European Countries create their own notes with the Euro symbol stuck on. Scotland can do the same.

The SNP have not supported the Euro in the way of making it a priority but beleive that in an Independent Scotland if it proves worthwhile we would join the Euro.
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Senga Jean,

27/06/2008 00:57:50
Sing SING Sing..Oh what joy over one sinner who repenteths. I thought she was a unionist but loved her music.. The joy that she is with the real people who wish a better world...and a better Scotland.
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Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 00:59:24
35. Er...no. Quite, quite wrong.

Again.

Coins are the only part of the currency that can be 'personalised' and even then only the back of the coins.

You really should do some research before you post.
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27/06/2008 01:04:36
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McMadman,

http://scottishreferendum2008.blogspot.com 27/06/2008 01:05:42
#34

Yes, of course though your point is fair comment, what about liebore hob nobbing with the great and good of britpop post '97, and swiftly being denounced by the dozen ?
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27/06/2008 01:06:26
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27/06/2008 01:06:59
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Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 01:06:59
35. I also think you should scan through the the SNP website (if you can get past the endless ridiculous propaganda, eg "SNP stands up for Scottish shipbuilding"...by losing the multi-billion MOD contracts?).

Anyway, in there is a clear goal of joining the Euro as soon as possible.
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27/06/2008 01:07:39
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Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 01:08:14
40. Superb!

You're not a nutcase at all, are you!
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27/06/2008 01:13:37
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Royster,

27/06/2008 01:14:33
Aniie Lennox? Massive boost for the SNP? Well, maybe in the 1980s...
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27/06/2008 01:17:37
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Highland Mighty,

27/06/2008 01:22:23
So, not many multiple usernames there, numpty.

'McPravda blog', 'Highland Mighty,Borders', 'Ford Trans!t' and 'Number.6 CandymanVW' are all revealed to be just one infinitely challenged nat.

What a shocker of a surprise.
47

Richardinho,

27/06/2008 01:38:45
Annie Lennox is as entitled to her opinion as anyone else, wherever she chooses to live. It doesn't look as if she has a lifetime's deeply held conviction about independence, but rather she is someone who has been undecided in the past, but has been persuaded by the arguments into a position of tacit support.
Who is to say that a thriving self confident independent Scotland wouldn't tempt many ex patriots like Lennox back home, in the way that Ireland has done?

For the record, I support independence, and I have no intentions of leaving Scotland.
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 27/06/2008 01:45:55
I always though Annie looked like she needed a good feed of something. Kind of like the one that Frank Sinatra called Cue Ball after she ripped up the picture of the Pope.
Now that she's got the indie biz solved has she got any quick tips for World Cup qualification.
If so I might have to buy one of CDs rather than getting one of my kids to download it.
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Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 01:52:13
52 AM2,Scotland
"Oh look, I’m being “punished” again for exercising my right to free speech. How dare I not be a nationalist, eh? Never mind about that person’s family being exposed to potential harassment if any nutter would think he was me. It’s all for the “cause”, isn’t it? Contemptible. Actually, beneath contempt."

For once I have to fully back AM2 on this one.
Clearly this nutter is in more need even
that the Labour Party of a psychiatrist.

However, let's try and keep Unionist
and Nationalist out of this though.
I am sure each has their fair share of a
tiny minority of nutters and neither
is representative of the main stream view
of either camp.

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Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 01:52:47
It terms of Annie Lennox I have always liked her,
and now much more that ever before :)
51

Brianwci,

Edinburgh 27/06/2008 01:55:26
On STV's the Politics Show tonight they were discussing the SNPs first year in Government and everyone, polticians and journalists alike agreed the SNP had had a very good first year, that included the arch unionist Alan Cochrane of the Telegraph.

The longer the SNP is in power the more people of Annie Lenox' stature will see that Independence can work and that the SNP as a fresh force is going to be more use to the people of Scotland than Labour.

Henry Mcleish also said that the reason for the SNP success is their Scottishness and the fact they didn't have to look over their shoulder at London (as the unionist parties have to do).

Long may these happy days continue.

Brian Hill
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DouglasT,

27/06/2008 02:05:32
Well done Annie Lennox. A beautiful woman with a great voice - and a brain ! I am truly smitten :)
53

bring them on,

27/06/2008 03:41:58
Annie, I like your music, doll, but you have lost it on this one.

The Scottish Numpty Party will destroy what little is left of the Scottish economy.

I understand that confused people are now making a protest vote/stance by supporting the Numpties, but for your own sakes take a deep breath and think again.

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Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 03:47:38
55 bring them on,

"will destroy what little is left of the Scottish economy."

What a wonderful Union dividend we have after
300 years - I guess we should just be grateful
that we barely have a "little Scottish economy"

You sycophants are nauseating in the extreme.
Try and have a modicum of confidence in your
Scottish Nation.
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bring them on,

27/06/2008 03:53:58
My uni Economics lecuturer was Mr Gordon Clown himself.

He was a diddy then, as he is now.

I think we both agree on that.

If you think that Scotland has a viable economy on its own, then, yes I strongly disagree with you.

Confidence in a nation and confidence in an economy are two different things.

I love the country and the people, but that doesn't buy you too many fish suppers
56

Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 04:14:29
57 bring them on

Fair enough so let's work to together to shape
an economy that will work for Scotland. Every
other independent country does it and there
is no way that Scotland is uniquely incapable
of doing so. There will challenges, and their
will be differences, but I have complete
confidence that we can tailor an economy to match
the needs and aspirations of the Scottish Nation.
57

bring them on,

27/06/2008 04:56:03
#58

Great if it could work out.

But who is your man/woman who could lead the charge?
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donald,

glasgow 27/06/2008 05:35:42
Give us a song Annie.
59

Mork the Orkan,

27/06/2008 05:35:47
Annie Lennox is a vacious idiots, who are foreigners. The SNP seem to attract idiot's in their droves, I think they need a bit of diversity.

Their entire celebrity support consists of dim-wits and failed historians who like a rant.

(She is a great musical talent of course.)
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Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 05:53:47
59 bring them on,

"#58

Great if it could work out.

But who is your man/woman who could lead the charge? "

Have confidence we do not need nor should we rely
on one person, we Scots have more than enough
talent between us to tackle this :)
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Traquir , Alba,

27/06/2008 05:55:34
61 Mork the Orkan

Thanks Mork the Dork :)
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Alan Reid,

NZ 27/06/2008 06:01:05
Thank you Annie, you and many others are beginning to see the light. The SNP can, and are are doing a good job as the Scottish Goverment. The people of Scotland are slowly seeing that ALL the other main parties are nothing but corrupt scumbags, on the payroll of Westminster. All you Unionist scum, EAT MY SHORTS!
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Chaplin,

27/06/2008 06:22:30
From a man who has such fervent nationalist leanings, I dont know whether Sean Connery's Japanese whiskey advert is shameful or just shows a complete lack of judgement considering the importance of our main export to the Scottish economy.
Whichever it is, it leaves a bad taste.

http://tinyurl.com/6khrd9
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bring them on,

27/06/2008 06:29:14
#65

Away you go to the local library and see if you can find a book on an interesting topic that you can tell us all aboot, say just after the New Year.

Is that how they spelt it?
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Boy Wonder,

27/06/2008 06:53:42
Annie Lennox supports Independence?

The SNP ranks should be singing "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This" today! :D
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Geoff,

sa 27/06/2008 07:19:46
I wouldn'y be sure whether an endorsement from Annie Lennox would be a prize or liability!
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 27/06/2008 07:23:19
I value AM2. He/she writes mores sense than most of us, and does so politely.

His detractors are usually minnows, as is evidenced by their poor arguments and language.

To silence AM2 is to threaten free speech. Is this SNP policy?
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27/06/2008 07:23:42
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LEAL,

27/06/2008 07:40:17
Annie Lennox.Quite important,this.Before,people who had left normal Scottish life such as Billy Connelly Annie Lennox etc,etc thought the old way.That independence was a cause for eccentrics.Now it has become mainstream we will see more celebs backing independence.When independence becomes chic we will be overwhelmed with their support,but because these people live in ivory towers usually abroad,they will always be a wee bit after the Scottish public in their support for independence.Sean Con was so big a star he didnt mind being seen by many as an eccentric.
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Nell,

The Preservation Hall 27/06/2008 07:42:35
She doesn't seem to be backing independence as much as she is backing being environmentally friendly and anti nuclear.
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pehman,

sussex 27/06/2008 08:07:18
Just a wee aside from the article that the "Scottish" press seems to have missed.

LABOUR CAME 5th IN THE HENLEY BY-ELECTION
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Faustus,

27/06/2008 08:07:39
The marvellous thing is that it doesn't matter how many actors and pop stars who spend most of their time outside Scotland declare their 'support' for independence, unless and until the MAJORITY of the Scottish voters call for it, it ain't going to happen. Salmond can wheel out as many fading stars as he wants.
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Conan the Librarian™,

27/06/2008 08:13:30
69
To silence AM2?

You would need a very large gag...
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Nell,

The Preservation Hall 27/06/2008 08:14:33
Does the thing that counts the number of comments on this article also get used in elections in Zimbabwe?
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The Hiker,

Fife 27/06/2008 08:17:54
Thomas P.
#34

I think you'll find that all the Euro notes are identical front and back, irrespective of which Euro country they are produced in. It's only the coins that have a "national" emblem on one side.
If we join the Euro as part of the UK, or as an independent nation, our own distinctive banknotes are tatties.

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brownlie,

27/06/2008 08:31:18
69 Rules

If you look through this site you will find that quite a number of the known SNP supporters on here have criticised the poster who is harassing AM2.

It seems that the harassment is not from those of an opposing political stance - it would appear to be more personal than that.
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danielrober,

27/06/2008 08:51:38
Nice music, i was a fan at school. I also adore strong females, far better than the 'pop tarts' at the moment. I'd also value Lenox experience and knowledge when it comes to a drug policy. Some help there would be great taxation, permitisation,had policing - what?

Outside of politness however on the real side of running a country, economy and improving the lives of people - oh dear. Another former hard core dug user, now regular light user, sees the SNP light. That won't rebuild 100,000 council houses.

Also Musicians are like great sports people, exceptional. Their drive ambition and enegy picks us all up, but thats just not daily life. So many entertainers engage in drug use becasue they are fustrated with normal life. This method of dealing with frustration is no good when it comes to running the country.

Sweet deams for Annie, a nightmare for others - People are not whales (Sorry).
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subrosa,

27/06/2008 08:58:53
# 74

What an insult calling Annie Lennox a fading star. I do hope you don't mean that because of her age. Her reputation is world wide and she continues to hold the world stage with her music.

I've been a fan all my life.
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AJ Fife,

27/06/2008 09:07:19
She used to be wee wendy's favourite singer too!

The day is jist getting worse and worse for the 'Mooth o' the Sooth'! LOL
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inkster,

27/06/2008 09:10:30
Extreme bairnyness, cheap smears, humbug, and now petulance has been added to the list. Come on GB chaps, what about the stiff upper lip, being a good loser and all that.

Like Am2 quote "lefty tree hugging" . Poor for you as far as smears go. I think one of your students is standing in for you while you are at the bowls tourney final. You show thy age old man. But AM2 is our national treasure , as long as he is in opposition, God help us when these plodding reactionaries jump ship.

Annie Lennox is excellent PR for the SNP and will bring votes. End
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BIG EYE,

Paisley 27/06/2008 09:13:47
In a majestic way the Labour Candidate beat 7 other candidates but found it impossible to match the votes of four others coming brave fifth in the elctoral contest.

A Labour spokesman put a positive spin on the result commenting "It will only be matter of time before we can overtake the Greens and the BNP and we were well ahead of the Loonies and the Fur Party so it's not all bad news"

Commenting on Labour's 3% share of the vote he said " By elections are notoriously difficult in the days ahead our vote maybe higher or lower who knows"

Marvellous!
82

RossA,

27/06/2008 09:30:07
Wendy reads the Guardian!
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RossA,

27/06/2008 09:30:47
Annie reads the New York Times
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RossA,

27/06/2008 09:31:18
Annie reads the New York Times
85

RossA,

27/06/2008 09:31:40
Gordon has stopped reading.
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roughrider,

Glasgow 27/06/2008 09:38:43
Andy Kerr reads the beano.
87

The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 09:43:04
Jackie Baillie reads Scottish slimmers.
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Tweedmouth,

Coldstream 27/06/2008 09:45:30
Ms Lennox says:

"tackle the issues like the depletion of the environment around the coastline, for example, and our fishing stocks are so depleted now we are going to have a no-take zone;"

Fishing has been destroyed by the grey men of Brussels - the EU gave Scotland's fish to Spain, France, Holland etc. These waters no longer belong to the UK or Scotland - and the only way to get them back is to leave the EU. Not one single political party remotely envisages leaving the EU, least of all the SNP which sees Europe as the Big Lifeboat if it jumps ship from HMS UK.



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danielrober,

27/06/2008 09:53:08
# 82 inkster,

I'm not sure if your reffering to me so i'll be general on my comment.

I'm sick to death of the DRUG culture, absolutly yes, done to death with it. So get over the fact that not everyone is going to be jumping with joy over this support for the SNP.

Those have taken it in the past for life stlye choices i have no problem with. If they join a sensible debate about dealing with our biggest problem in Scotland/UK/EU in fact the world, DRUGS, I'm happy.

But don't expect hard solutions to hard problem, from this poliical change. Life is more complex than lighting up a j*int.
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AJ Fife,

27/06/2008 10:00:21
Spook#89,

No she disnae, it's more likely to be Fudge Doughnut Monthly! :)
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:00:46
#90

blimey
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:02:22
#92

lol, or mir like the menu at McDonald's
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:16:03
100
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:16:38
eh, it says 100 at the top, huh !!!!
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Alan B,

27/06/2008 10:17:11
Do not think it matters what Annie Lennox thinks, but i think it does show an underlying shift in the political undercurrent in scotlands political debate.

Part of the problem for the unionists is labour have never made a good case for the union, but have always based there political argument on fear.
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:17:20
#95

well said
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:17:27
100
98

The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:17:50
thats more like it
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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:24:26
#102 Meths..


" I'm sick and tired of "celebrities" endorsing this or that political party."

Okay Meths, i take the hint..
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Alan B,

27/06/2008 10:28:13
#Highland Mighty

"They also believe we would be better off in the Euro because we have little influence in the BoE's monetary decisions.....even though we would be all but irrelevant in a Eurozone of 400m people, where the needs of Germany, France and Italy are the priority."


U really do not understand the argument for the euro. The problem with scotland using sterling has little to do with influence on the bank of england. The problem with sterling is that interest rates in the uk have traditionally been too high for the scottish economy. Euro rates have been lower that sterlings since the introduction of the euro and the interest rates of germany etc before the euro were also lower than uk interest rates.

Some of the reason for higher uk rates is said to be due to the south east housing market.

As such if euro rates tend to be lower that sterlings and sterling rates are too high for the scottish economy, it does not take to much brain power to see that interest rates for the euro are more inline with scotlands economic needs.

The big problem scotland has, is both labour and the lib dems support the euro in principle. Blair could not get the uk to join for political reasons. Jack McConnel was on record as saying the euro would be good for scotland. The problem is while both these parties support the euro they will not consider joining unless the whole of the uk does.

ie they are putting the union before the economic needs of the scottish economy.

Lets face it. Scotland should have an independent economic assessment to see whether it is in our economic interests to join.

Personally i could see NI joining while still part of the uk so it need not even be an independence issue. That in itself is the problem with the union. It is far too inflexible to allow scotland to take decisions for scotlands benefit.
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Alan B,

27/06/2008 10:31:12
#Methalions

"the above, when Connolly supported Labour, the knives were out for him. Pathetic."

I think the problem regarding Connolly is not any support for labour but his condescending attitude to the scottish parliament and by extention to scotland.



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pwd,

Borders 27/06/2008 10:33:04
Annie has set out some conditions. Will the SNP rush to comply as quiickly as they did when Trump laid down his?

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The Spook in Leith,

27/06/2008 10:36:24
#106...Meths..

They should arrive at my parents house today, just making my way out now..will let you know in due course...oh and hoos poos to Spain..
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Longdirk Maceth,

Aberdeen 27/06/2008 10:51:42
70 Number: 6
"well Alan what can I say! Reasoned debate is alive and well I see. If you do not agree with the Snp then you are scum.
No thats not what I meant, check below, this is what i meant by scum!
1)it was brown that said on tv that he would not work with the scottish government.
2)it was brown who the media say will not return Salmonds calls
3)it was brown that did not congratulate Salmond on his vicotry last yr until embarrassed by the media. Blair did not at all.
4)it is brown who has tried to scupper the LIT policy of the snp, rather than leaving it to be argued out in holyrood.
a) disgracefully trying to withhold scotlands money through the council tax rebate.
b)and used the treasury to declare the policy illegal when it is the remit of the preciding officer to do so.
5) it brown who would not compensate our farmers while compensating english farmers
6)it was brown who delivered the lowest increase in the scottish block grant since the start of the parliament (many think as a punishment for voting snp)
7)it was brown who is try to not pass on the consequentials to the scottish parliament as a result of spending on english prisions.

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Alex,

Ayr 27/06/2008 11:15:48
Well done Annie...however, expect the same sour grapes treatment from irate unioists as Sean got/gets .
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Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 27/06/2008 11:20:35
Annie Lennox is a musician. She should stick to what she knows best---making music.

Given the track record of the SNP since they came to power---ie, the broken promises---coupled with the two loose cannons in the shape of Robison and MacAskill who want to take away all our freedom, independence should be the last thing on anyone's mind at the moment.

We NEED the controlling influence of Westminster in order to moderate the extremism that is being peddled at the moment---even if that Westminster government happens to be an incompetent bunch of labour idiots.
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 Ayrshire Scot™,

27/06/2008 11:29:37
114. "We NEED the controlling influence of Westminster in order to ".... engage in illegal wars, detain people without trial for 42 days, introduce ID cards, buy more WMD for the Clyde, detain children of asylum seekers at Dungavel, close 5000 post offices and abolish the 10p tax band..... we need the Scottish government to stand up for Scotland and protect us from these extremist measures from Westminster