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Brown humiliates Alexander



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Published Date: 11 May 2008
WENDY Alexander was ridiculed by her political opponents last night after she was ordered by Gordon Brown to "close down" any further discussion of an independence referendum in Scotland.
In emergency talks on Friday following the Scottish leader's astonishing call for a referendum, the Prime Minister told Alexander the issue should be ditched.

Scotland on Sunday can reveal the Prime Minister told Alexander twice in the past few days that he did not support her proposal to force an referendum on Scotland, to "call the SNP's bluff".

But Alexander chose to ignore her mentor and pressed ahead anyway, even claiming publicly she had his support.

The affair has left a deep scar in relations between the two former allies, who spent more than 24 hours over Friday and Saturday trying to piece together a fresh statement declaring they were now in agreement.

This was supposed to draw a line under the matter, but Alexander faced further mockery by political opponents last night after conceding in the statement that her hopes of forcing a snap referendum in the next year were now dead in the water.

The SNP says it will hold the referendum in the autumn of 2010. Meanwhile, Alexander's other option – to get Brown to rush through a referendum bill at Westminster – has been closed off after the Prime Minister told her he would not countenance such a plan.

And in a further setback for Alexander, the former First Minister Henry McLeish said the affair had shown "contempt" for the Scottish people, and he accused her of leading Labour "into the worst of all possible worlds". Labour MSPs also privately warned they may rebel against Alexander by voting against a referendum bill. But Labour donor Willie Haughey said he backed Alexander on the issue, declaring it was time to give Scots a vote.

The extraordinary chaos facing Labour began on Sunday when Alexander told Alex Salmond on BBC to "bring it on", arguing she was not afraid of a referendum. Aides then revealed that she backed an immediate referendum on independence. Alexander said on Tuesday that she was even considering introducing a bill of her own. However, the plan fell into farce after Brown failed to back the plan for a referendum on Wednesday. Then, on Thursday, Alexander hit back, declaring that she still wanted it to go ahead.

Scotland on Sunday understands that two days before Alexander went public with her U-turn, Brown told her that he could not support a plan for a referendum on independence. Nevertheless, Alexander went ahead.

Then, in a phone conversation on Tuesday night, after Alexander's U-turn had been made public, senior Whitehall sources insisted that the Prime Minister had again repeated his refusal to back his protege. Despite that, Alexander then publicly insisted that Brown was in favour of the plan.

A Whitehall source said: "Gordon told her on the Friday before she went public that he wasn't going to back it at Westminster.

"Then, on the Tuesday, he quite clearly told her that 'You must not say that I am backing this course of action'."

However, hours later, on Newsnight Scotland, Alexander insisted that Brown did indeed back the plan. Last night, Alexander's spokesman said: "Wendy had extensive discussions with senior colleagues down south and they hadn't made clear to her that she was going in the wrong direction."

On Friday, Alexander cancelled public speaking engagements after Brown insisted that they come up with a strategy to draw a line under the affair.

Yesterday, after more than 24 hours discussion, they issued parallel statements.

Alexander declared: "The case for a referendum to demonstrate support for the Union has been increasingly discussed in Labour circles. The Scottish Labour Group at Holyrood united around calling the SNP's bluff this week."

She went on: "However, as a minority party in the Scottish Parliament, Scottish Labour alone cannot force the SNP to act. The SNP have now made clear they will block any referendum bill Labour might have introduced . . . the SNP have therefore now blocked this route in the Scottish Parliament."

She added: "The SNP can never again claim that a 'unionist cabal' is denying Scotland a voice. The SNP party colour is yellow and we now know why."

An aide to Gordon Brown said: "Wendy Alexander is a first-rate leader of the Labour party in the Scottish Parliament. Together with her, and her team, Gordon Brown will continue to defend the UK and Scotland's place in it."

Henry McLeish last night savaged the handling of the affair. "This is the worst of all possible worlds. We have marginalised the Calman Commission (the body studying more powers for the Scottish Parliament), confused the Scottish public, taken the Liberals and the Tories out of the equation and seemed more enthusiastic than the SNP to have a referendum."

He added: "Labour supporters and activists will find it difficult to work out what on earth is going on. It's hard to understand how Labour could get itself into this position. What about the public? They have been treated with contempt."

And there were signs last night that some of Alexander's MSPs were beginning to rebel. One said: "Labour voters deserve better than this. Those who kept with us through recent difficulties don't deserve this. Wendy needs to examine herself to see what contribution she is making."

Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie hit out: "This must go down as one of the most extraordinary, humiliating press statements ever issued. Wendy Alexander tries to defend her indefensible actions … by re-writing history, stretching credibility and taking the public for fools."

SNP deputy leader Nicola Sturgeon MSP said: "Words like 'laughing stock' do not even begin to reach the extent of the Labour party's disarray and humiliation. Do they seriously believe that everyone will now believe it was all a cunning plan? Labour in Scotland are now just ridiculous and plummeting to new depths of absurdity as well as in the polls."

Nicol Stephen, of the Liberal Democrats, said: "There are fundamental question marks over the honesty of what the Labour Party is saying."

The full article contains 1019 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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karinxxx,

11/05/2008 00:07:54
Nicol Stephen, of the Liberal Democrats, said: "There are fundamental question marks over the honesty of what the Labour Party is saying."


Does it smell nicol?

Given that the lib dems were in coalition with them and also the tories supported them in the callman commsion i think that there are fundamental question marks over the wisdom of voting lib dem or tory now.
2

James Annand,

11/05/2008 00:10:33
Wow. This just keeps getting more and more surreal. What on Earth was she thinking? What's depressing is that Nicola Stugeon will have been proven to be correct when she said that Wendy's position is untenable.

I'm really gonna miss her.
3

whitegold,

Shire 11/05/2008 00:17:52
Wendy keeps on getting caught out telling untruths in public.
4

Angus Ogg,

11/05/2008 00:20:22

Wendy is going to resign within the next ten days.

This will be the second time - the first was after a stormy meeting with her leader on 4th May 2002.

You read it here first.
5

Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 11/05/2008 00:20:43
UUendy was calling the SNP's bluff? The SNP weren't bluffing,UUendy was and her's was well and truly called.

This woman is just such a farce. That phenomenal intellect of hers is so suited to writing fairy tales for children.
6

ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 11/05/2008 00:28:52
There has been some good come out of all this, never again can Scottish Labour deny that they have to ask the permission of head office in London before they do or say anything!

This brilliant cartoon sums up Wendy's position best

http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/news/uk
/scotland/article390
4248.ece
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 11/05/2008 00:30:39
What must be really galling for Labour in Scotland is that this Woman was chosen as their leader unapposed.

No wonder they all back her, they are all as equally guilty as she is!
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11/05/2008 00:31:26
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11/05/2008 00:32:11
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ochone,

Sauchie, Clack's 11/05/2008 00:32:32
Just think, if things had been a little different last May this bunch of clowns would be running Scotland.

Right into the ground!
11

Glaswegian,

Glasgow 11/05/2008 00:36:41

I find this the most amazing statement of all: 'Last night, Alexander's spokesman said: "Wendy had extensive discussions with senior colleagues down south and they hadn't made clear to her that she was going in the wrong direction."'

Am I reading this right? Is he really defending Wendy by saying: She didn't understand her orders?
12

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 00:39:53
I wonder if the application form to join the labour party looks something like this

Are you mad
1. yes.....
2. no.........
3. my psychologist doenst think so.........


Do you support a referendum on independence

1. yes
2. no
3.yes
4.no
5.yes
6.no
7. only if gordon says so.

will you give us all your spare cash so we can do whatever we think is will win us votes at this particular moment in time

1. yes
2. yes







13

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 00:41:45
11. no i think what they meant was we didnt shout
F Off loud enough or long enough.
14

Richardinho,

11/05/2008 00:42:42
Wendy's original position of calling an early referendum, or forcing the SNP into doing so, was a legitimate one.
Her problems are due to the fact that she is not a leader at all, but actually a very minor figure within the UK labour party and completely beholden to Gordon Brown.

The voters of Scotland now have a choice between the SNP who are only answerable to them, or the Labour and unionist party who are merely puppets of their Westminster master.
15

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 00:43:18
13 the establishment have rules.

OOPS someone forgot to tell wendy.......
16

Marky Bhoy,

Confused 11/05/2008 00:45:14
I dont know who but Either Brown or Alexander have been blatantly lying since Wednesday .

One of them has to go and I suspect it will be the wrong one .
17

Richardinho,

11/05/2008 00:46:47
I wouldn't feel too sorry for Wendy. Being a good unionist, I'm sure he enjoyed being ordered around by London.
18

Loki, Death Angel,

The Dark Side 11/05/2008 00:48:48
If the labour party was a dog you would have had it put down. Keeping it alive now is just prolonging the agony as a dignified end is never going to happen

Loki
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11/05/2008 00:52:30
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Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 11/05/2008 00:59:35

I think we are heading for a critical moment ( A SDP ) moment if you like

When Labour MSP'S realise that the party they represent is not what they signed up for
21

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11/05/2008 01:04:39
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karinxxx,

11/05/2008 01:16:01
22 hiya fakey feasgar math.

woo hoo i have a fakey again.

That means i have really annoyed someone brilliant.
23

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 01:19:22
22 by the way

gonni pay attention ya totty i would never say intellectual minnows i prefer totty and eejit. like yerself for example.
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11/05/2008 01:20:59
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Edwards Legend,

11/05/2008 01:25:49
I am a Labour voter but this woman is not fit for the job !
I watched her performance on channel 4 the day of the ‘ bring it on’ - chav style declaration and it was abysmal.She really makes me cringe .
I believe the SNP are happy to see her stay in the job as her ailings are masking their own shortcomings at present .
I am now convinced she is 'Agent Alexander' undercover Nat

26

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 01:26:22
Hi roger hows you.

Still pissed off then. Its really nice to know that you are seething with anger. Keep it up.

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11/05/2008 01:28:05
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The Moog,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 01:31:39
Google Wendy Alexander - pages from the uk and you'll notice this:

Scotsman.com News - Wendy Alexander quits
http://news.scotsman.com/newsfront.aspx?SectionID=7442

But the link leads to a blank page.

Is a resignation in the air?
29

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 01:33:46
28 well there is really no answer to that so i wont bother.

sigh....... another unionist who doesnt know who they are or what they stand for.
30

Richardinho,

11/05/2008 01:35:30
#22

'Donald Dewar was actually quite bright. Such a pity that he was surrounded by intellectual minnows.'

Even an apparent Labour party supporter regards the entire Scottish Labour party as being 'intellectual minnows'!
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11/05/2008 01:37:53
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candysticks,

11/05/2008 02:17:27
Surely the headline here is wrong. Shouldn't it be, "Wendy Humiliates the Scottish voter"?

She and the Scottish Labour Party appear to think that the voters / public are thicker than pig s**t.

Does she not realise that most Scots are literate? That we have access to information and can come to our own conclusions based on published documents?

She's an embarassment to our country and she and GB - or Shrek, as my children refer to him - should both resign immediately.

Not that I can propose valid alternatives to either, but they are clearly the laughing stock right now.


33

Vivas,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 02:56:00
Andrew Rawnsley is another smart cookie who sees the writing on the wall..

"Gordon Brown's reputation has collapsed on every front"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/may/11/polls.gordonbrown
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Sierra Foothills Scot,

Diamond Springs 11/05/2008 03:19:25
#22 karinxxx claims that "Alex Salmond knows that Scotland will never gain Independence because the economic mechanics are unworkable."

She is obviously unaware that the UK government has been lying about Scotland's financial situation for more than 30 years. She should take a look at
http://tinyurl.com/2ga3t5



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KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 11/05/2008 03:36:18
So which of the hapless Labour MSP's next gets a turn at being Gordon Browns glove puppet?

After the last week it is obviously going to be someone who doesn't think they can think for themselves.

Lucky for Wendy the Elections for the European Parliament are coning up soon. Son they can slot her into a safe seat and tell her its a promotion for all her good work.

I wonder if you asked her again about her performance would she still think its 10 out of 10?
36

Scotindy,

Los Angeles 11/05/2008 03:41:58
Unlike the smell of of something gone off, Unionists, I smell the sweet smell of INDEPENDENCE running through our country. It is here Ladies and Gentlemen, let's take it and have them BEGONE FOREVER!!! FREEDOM, FREEDOM FREEDOM.Never stop untill we get it and hand it over to our CHILDREN!
37

Willie Macleod,

Wick 11/05/2008 04:09:24
#40 If you want to talk about Freedom

There are many in this world who are not free Scots are not amongst them We are free we do not live in bondage and fear as many do
38

Castaway,

11/05/2008 05:37:00
#43 Traquir, I never trusted the Labour Party after the1979 referendum on devolution with that silly and undemocratic 40% rule, then came the McCrone report (1974) published in 2005.
I also didn't trust the Tory Party with the 1968 The Declaration of Perth then came Thatcher who wanted all voters in the United Kingdom to have a say on devolution(1979) for Scotland.
The UK Parliament is desperate to keep Scotland under its control.
39

Guga II,

Rockall 11/05/2008 05:41:51
It just helps prove the point that the New Labour Sleaze and Corruption Party (North British Branch) are the running dogs and lackeys of London. They are not there to act for Scotland, only to do what London tells them.

Obviously Wendy slipped her leash for a wee while, but they'll soon have her back under control, and doing what she's told.

Labour in Scotland are really quite disgusting as they are such a lickspittle, spineless lot.
40

Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 11/05/2008 05:50:22
Brown really is a slimy piece of work. At lease Wendy gets it. Scots don't want to be Limeys anymore.
All that's standing in the way is the Labour Party's lust for power.
41

donald,

glasgow 11/05/2008 05:50:54
U Bbendies in retreat.
42

Dooogie,

HIGHLAND 11/05/2008 06:28:38
The Labour colours are RED and now we know why - it's to match the colour of their faces now that Wee Wendy is right in the Brown stuff.
43

Dragonlord,

11/05/2008 06:58:36
Brown, Wendy,Labour caught out in down right LIE, who now can trust them to run a country?
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steve 1511,

aberdeen 11/05/2008 07:36:08
wee wendy the ned,slapped down by broon the liar,
45

I am Legion, for we are Many..,

ALBA 11/05/2008 07:45:56
THE ODDS ARE TUMBLING ON THE QUESTION OF INDEPENDENCE. WHAT WILL THEY BE DOWN TO NEXT WEEK?
WILLIAM HILL:-
We currently offer 200/1 that Scotland will become independent by the
end of May 2012; 50/1 before the end of May 2017 and 14/1 that it
happens within fifty years.
We are not offering odds at the moment on a yes/no vote.

Paddy Power.
Dial-a-Bet: From Ireland: 1800 721 821 From UK: 08000 565 265

2/5 to vote No to full independence.
7/4 to vote Yes to full independence.
12/1 to achieve full independence 2013
6/1 to achieve full independence 2018
5/2 to achieve full independence 2023

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Danny Mather,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 07:49:07
#29 interesting find, perhaps they are using it as a placeholder for the expected update to the story later today. Or maybe it#s just been left up there since the last time, ready to be padded out with her latest tale of woe.

that link again to Wendy's resignation

http://news.scotsman.com/newsfront.aspx?SectionID=7442
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 11/05/2008 08:01:47
Let's not forget that Wendy and Gordon are Scots. Scots voted for them, not the dreaded English, so the SNP shouldn't get too excited about all this.
48

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 11/05/2008 08:02:15
Let's not forget that Wendy and Gordon are Scots. Scots voted for them, not the dreaded English, so the SNP shouldn't get too excited about all this.
49

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:04:28
54 and strangely 55

You honestly think that either will be voted in again?
50

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11/05/2008 08:04:30
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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 11/05/2008 08:10:46
#56. Conan. Maybe not them, but their ilk? Yes. Loyalists vote for whichever donkey the party machine puts in place.
52

kimba,

11/05/2008 08:12:10
52.What a good idea,but anything the westminster government says is cr-p as far as the opinionated karinxxx is concerned!
53

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 11/05/2008 08:13:11
So what do we have?

The Liebour party telling us serfs that "everything is fine" & "we are united". Then you see the the Alexander debacle, & read:

*Prescott putting the boot in
*Levy putting the boot in
*Cherie Booth putting the boot in

Yet Liebour tell us Blair & Brown were as one??!!

What a load of cr@p. Liebour are split from top to bottom, & how can ANYONE belove what they say anymore, let alone VOTE for them. Do they STILL expect the people to vote Liebour?

Scotland deserves better, & the people will vote for better in 2010.
54

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Federation, not separation 11/05/2008 08:14:23
#57. Karin.

I don't want my kids to be infected by some unvaccinated child. Let the latter have their own schools!
55

Buckfastleigh,

London calling... 11/05/2008 08:17:59
Who rules Scotland's Labor Partei; why clearly it's London.
56

kimba,

11/05/2008 08:20:33
Gordy has made a huge mistake,wendy had it right,a snap referendum would of left the snp high and dry,however,gordys time in office can be counted in months not years,and then we will have a conservative government and things will thankfully change.
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mike3,

Midlands 11/05/2008 08:21:47
Does the public believe politician's statements? Talk about weapons of mass destruction!
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GrahamH,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 08:23:09
Headline implies Wendy has some humility left. Generous reporting after her last 12 months..
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karinxxx,

11/05/2008 08:25:07
61 oh so you would quite happily exclude children from your childs school for having a medical condition that would mean they are unable to be vaccinated. how nice of you.

anyway what do you think of wendys u turn on her U turn.
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Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:28:02
Rules, I think Labour has shot its bolt.
Into its foot.
In the next election, how many onetime supporters(including me) will vote for the only alternative?
61

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:30:07
66
Heh. Bendy Wendy indeed.
Can she clean pipes as well?
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kimba,

11/05/2008 08:33:53
66.He never said that miss thing!
63

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:33:59
Look at the street she is on!http://www.ibegin.com/canada/british-columbia/revelstoke/wendy39s-plumbing-amp-electrical-1605-victoria-rd-1.html
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Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:35:58
kimba, you're an English democrat;Do you know Matt O'Conner?
65

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 11/05/2008 08:36:00
It was only inevitable something had to give and it wouldn't be Broon who's got enough problems as it is. So the Senga of the Opposition is now in an untenable position and will be making up excuses as we write.

The alternatives look even more dire unfortunately, but could offer much higher potential for entertainment at FMQs and Newsnicht.

Then Broon may well be facing his own demise soon and then there's the little question of an EU referendum as Wendy has now mentioned the "R" word. Bring that on...
66

Roy,

11/05/2008 08:36:15
First the election that never was, now the referendum that never was.
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Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 11/05/2008 08:36:22
Wendy Alexander is beyond humiliation, witness all that has been said in the past, and she is still there picking up her £250000 per annum. I too could take a lot of flak for that money.
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Jock ex 45Cdo RM,

THORNHILL 11/05/2008 08:36:40
Wendy Alexander is beyond humiliation, witness all that has been said in the past, and she is still there picking up her £250000 per annum. I too could take a lot of flak for that money.
69

Roy,

11/05/2008 08:37:01
This all confirms what we already knew - Scottish Labour is being run from London.
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kimba,

11/05/2008 08:37:13
66. Hope you are looking forward to the new conservative government,you may get what you want,but not in the way you want it!
71

St. George,

England 11/05/2008 08:38:11
No. 63 Kimba.

It is would HAVE and not would OF. Get a grip.
72

Lennox11,

Coatbridge 11/05/2008 08:38:44
Wendy has a remote control face, when you see her on TV you reach for the remote, therefore she is not getting her point across to the people who matter, she has no relevant policy for today's voters she has no strategy other than, who shouts loudest will win, i am not a Salmon fan, but one thing he does not do is shout, he is controlled and jolly at all times on TV, you listen because you will get a laugh with some of the ridculous things he says, it may be rubbish coming from his mouth but because of his delivery people are beginning to listen, and that is all Salmon needs, Wendy take note and leave now or labour will end up in scotland the same as labour in the south.
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kimba,

11/05/2008 08:40:49
71. No, and have no wish to do so,he is one mistake that should never have happened.
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Ananurhing,

11/05/2008 08:42:25
Wendy says
"The SNP can never again claim that a 'unionist cabal' is denying Scotland a voice."

Too true! The Tories and Glibdums cannot afford to be sullied by associating themselves with Scottish Labour ever again! She dissolved the cabal.
It's as if Wendy has resorted to committing acts of 'self harm'. You almost feel like turning away, because it's almost too gruesome to witness.
And Brown, ever the sociopath, is quite willing to sit back and watch her bleed to death.

Not for a second do I believe that Brown made it clear that she was on her own on the referendum issue. Had he done so, she would never have proceeded with it.

Wendy's only hope now would be to declare independence for herself and the Scottish Labour group. I would respect them if they did, but it'll never happen.

She'll be gone shortly I'm sure, Brown'll probably hang in a bit longer. Whether you're a unionist or a nat, this lot are now impeding good governance, and are beyond resuscitation. Time to help them both slip away peacefully.
75

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:43:24
77
I AM so looking forward to a Conservative government in Westminster.
Scottish Independence about three weeks later,
76

kimba,

11/05/2008 08:46:14
78. Take it you NEVER make a mistake,it's 8.48 for gods sake.
77

Independence? Bring it On!,

11/05/2008 08:48:01
The last hope for the WENDY

http://tinyurl.com/5agcwt
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kimba,

11/05/2008 08:48:11
83. LOL,you wish!
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NBJT,

North Berwick 11/05/2008 08:48:13
The Scottish Labour Party, indeed the Labour Party, are the laughing stock of politics!!!!

Independence , quick, please!!!!!!
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Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:48:38
84
Still drunk?
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mrsbruce,

Livingston 11/05/2008 08:49:52
I'm confused.....


We can't have an early referendum as we are waiting for the report on the future of devolution. Anyway, no-one wants an election just now, and why should we just because Alexander shouts "bring it on" (I found that very embarrassing).

So we have to assume that Wendy Alexander didn't mean to have a snap election, she was only trying to show how cowardly the SNP are.

Mmmm.......

I think that excuse ranks alongside "big boy done it and run away".

Any chance of having grown up politics in Scotland before we're laughed out the court.
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Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:50:27
85
LoL.
But who is she praying to...?
83

Phil C,

11/05/2008 08:50:38
Oh well, that makes it simple then- a referendum in 2010. Bring it on!
84

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 08:52:37
One really shouldn't intrude on private grief, but to be considered incompetent by Henry McLeish.......
85

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 08:53:20
...http://cdbaby.name/f/l/flashgordon2.jpg
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Ananurhing,

11/05/2008 08:54:58
85# Independence

Is that her squeezing the last of her career down the toilet?
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 08:56:06
Wendy Alexander's political faux pax over the proposal for an early Referendum on Independence is the least of Gordon Brown's worries.

In a short time as Leader of the Labour Party in Scotland, like the other Scots Unionist leaders, Ms. Alexander has proved she is not a big fish like Salmond and Sturgeon!



88

John S,

11/05/2008 09:02:27
Brown "I will do whatever is necessary to ensure the stability and maintenance of the Union," "I won't let the Union split"
In 1707: Lest the Scots were not entirely persuaded, propaganda was used and military pressure was brought to bear. Troops were moved to the border in an indication of England's willingness to use force if the other methods failed.
But this is 2008 and there other methods which can be used if necessary to ensure the stability and maintenance of the Union.ie Remember the £5,000 a year bill every Scottish family faced if they elect the SNP.
89

kimba,

11/05/2008 09:03:43
84.I wish,had to drive my dad to work,not that it's any of your business.
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fresian,

edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:05:48
Well done Gordon and Wendy, you two clowns are a far better advert for the SNP than any party Political Broadcast could ever be. Keep up the good work, you won't be missed.
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Independence? Bring it On!,

11/05/2008 09:07:01
#90 the ghost of Keir Hardy

#94 Ananurhing, as a mother of twins she's used to squeezing things out oh her front bottom.


There's an ethereal quality in that shot that speaks to the downtrodden and vulnerable two year olds bereft of nursery places, that after all is what her legacy will be. Well that and "impermissible" bungs, lies, deceit, the referendum that never was and of course 10/10
92

fresian,

edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:09:41
No 82, by suggesting that Wendy likes to self harm and having seen earlier pictures of her crying. Would I be right in thinking she is an Emo, maybe her next brown envelope will contain a couple of tickets for a "My Chemical Romance" gig.
93

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 09:11:03
94 down the U bend you mean............
94

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 09:15:26
101
Karin see link @ 70;-)
95

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 09:16:15
here kimba i thought you supported the english democrates have you had a U-turn and are now supporting the conservatives.

96

jdships,

11/05/2008 09:17:20
Interesting that at the top the page the advertising logo states

"HOW LOW CAN YOU GO ?"

How appropriate !!!!!!!!
97

Ananurhing,

11/05/2008 09:18:03
100# Fresian
I think her next 'Brown' envelope will contain her P45, or polonium maybe.

101# Karin

And Brown's standing by with the Harpic.
98

karinxxx,

11/05/2008 09:21:12
do you think wendy saw this poster somewhere and thought thats how i will win.

http://www.ww2poster.co.uk/posters/imagebank/digonforvictory.htm
99

Union is Best,

11/05/2008 09:33:43
What do we want? A referedum!
When do we want it? Now

What do we want? No further mention of referendums.
When do we want it? Gordon hasn't told us
100

Miss H,

11/05/2008 09:35:25
Even if Wendy does resign it will be politically very difficult for Scottish Labour to refuse to support the referendum bill when it is put before Parliament in 2010. Having expressed support for a referendum as a way of testing opinion they cannot back away without it being seen as being slapped down by London - and that is not a perception they will wish to encourage so close to the elections especially if there is by that time a Tory administration in Westminster.
101

shivago8,

livingston 11/05/2008 09:40:21
Who said what
We had BLAIR THE LIAR
Now we have Broon the LIAR AND
We now have the mooth Wendy Bendy the LIAR.
God have mercy on us.
Is there anyone in new labour--STRAIGHT
102

Union is Best,

11/05/2008 09:44:08

..with Alexander aides now calling Brown "a ditherer", while Brown's team dismissed Alexander as a "political pygmy"

Well, we Unionists have brought it on! On each other now! Just wait till we have finished, then you Nats will be next! grrrrrrr
103

Union is Best,

11/05/2008 09:45:22
Herald -

A third source close to Alexander said of Brown's aides: "They just don't give a f*** about Scotland."

Hmmm, this is bring on the wrong stuff! We Unionists may need to regroup.
104

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 09:49:11
111
I've got a wee room you can hire.
105

Union is Best,

11/05/2008 09:53:13
112. No, no, no, Wendy won't go near a U-Bend at the moment. Bring it up! Bring it back! Bring it down! Bring it off!
106

Conan the Librarian™,

11/05/2008 09:55:02
Heh, have you seen the link at 70?
107

Union is Best,

11/05/2008 09:57:18
114. :-) Total slur. Wendy is consistent. The world is out of focus.
108

JT,

11/05/2008 10:01:27
Its simple for Brown, dont p off Scotland, after all he is supposed to be one of us when it suits him. This really happend a long time ago, when they started slagging of the personal aspects of the SNP, fine fair enough critise their policies, but when they went for the personal lives they lost the respect of the people and hence the SNP got in. Brown has never accepted this administration and never will, again by being a bullish ignorant loser he has lost touch with reality. We will never forgive him for stuffing up pensions and as the recent english and welsh elections gettting rid of the 10p tax has lost him the control. I feel sorry for Wendy as she seemed to be the only person to stand up as for labour and get absolutely hee haw support from her party. It makes you ask the question what is Brown REALLY afraid of??
109

morris,

edinburgh 11/05/2008 10:02:46
15

You have put it in a nutshell.Wendy is not leader of anything.The silly woman thinks that power has been devolved within the Labour Party. Did she not understand that all Labour MSPs do what they are told.You are a branch office only and HQ calls the shots.
I thought at least they had understood that they are being paid to pretend that they have some say in what happens.THEY HAVE NO INFLUENCE WHATSOEVER and most of them couldnt tie their own laces anyway.As the BBCS Taylor once said on Tv You wouldn/t send half of them to the shop for a message.Thats a fair description of New Labour. When Cathy of the Magic Circle (prisoners disappear just like that) and Hut are considered to be prominent you cannot expect much else as leader.

Wendy is a liabilty. The problem is who do you replace her with? I see Chisholm as the only one capable of holding his own,and he will NEVER be selected because he will only take so much crap from Maggie Broon and quit.Bring back Henry.All is forgiven.
At least with Henry you knew when he was telling the truth because his lip stopped twitching(so I am told,I never witnessed it personally).
110

roughrider,

Downhill 11/05/2008 10:12:00
WENDY Alexander was ridiculed by her political opponents last night after she was ordered by Gordon Brown to "close down" any further discussion of an independence referendum in Scotlan