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Sir Sean would quit Bahamas for an independent Scottish nation



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Published Date: 09 April 2007
SIR Sean Connery has said he will return to his native Scotland if it is granted independence.
The high profile supporter of the Scottish National Party (SNP) was born in Edinburgh's Fountainbridge but left Scotland more than half a century ago.

Sir Sean, 76, moved to London in the Fifties, then to Spain in the Seventies. In 1999 he took up residence in the Bahamas, where he still lives, with his second wife, the painter Micheline Roquebrune.

But in an interview with a Sunday newspaper the former James Bond actor said he would "look forward" to coming home to an independent Scotland.

Sir Sean already acts as an unofficial Scottish ambassador at high profile events such as Tartan Week in New York.

Last week he opened the headquarters of the New York based organisation Friends of Scotland - Alba House - where he also hosted a dinner.

He says Scottish independence would offer further opportunities for his goodwill activities.

"I have been waiting for independence as long as I can remember," he said. "Like a lot of Scots abroad I look forward to coming home to an independent Scotland. Emotionally, of course, I have never left. I have been a goodwill ambassador for Scotland. I can imagine even more opportunities with independence."

However, he denied these plans would get in the way of his career, quashing reports that he would not return to acting. He is currently considering an offer from Indiana Jones director Steven Spielberg and producer George Lucas to resurrect his movie role as Professor Henry Jones.

In response to accusations that he lived in the Bahamas to avoid paying tax, he reacted angrily, claiming to have paid "millions" to the UK, including a recent bill of £500,000.

Following the re-establishment of the Scottish Parliament in 1999, Sir Sean and Ms Roquebrune - whom he married in 1975, after divorcing his first wife, Diane Cilento - considered buying a home in Scotland.

They scouted locations in Sir Sean's native Edinburgh and St Andrew's, because of their love of golf, but finally rejected the idea and remained in the Caribbean.

But the move could now be imminent, as Sir Sean said he believed independence was within reach.

The growing support of Scottish business leaders such as Brian Souter and Tom Farmer was a ringing endorsement of the SNP, he claimed.

"It's a David and Goliath story," he said. "In the past the SNP didn't have the funds to get its ideas out - in the past it was an unfair contest.

"Now it appears we may be arriving at a more level playing field.

"Now, the mood in Scotland is without a doubt for progress. The SNP is providing a picture of a better future for Scotland that has not been seen by the public before. The polls reflect this."

Business leaders are now "joining the mood of optimism" according to Sir Sean, offering financial as well as verbal support.

"Support for the SNP is growing across all segments of Scottish society," he added. "People know the SNP has ideas for equality and a better future.

"More people have seen through New Labour - especially after Iraq."

Labour's policies have failed Scotland, he insisted, accusing Tony Blair, the Prime Minister, of "spreading misinformation" about Scotland's dependency on England.

As well as supporting the SNP's economic credentials, Sir Sean also applauded the party's backing for arts-friendly polices.

Sir Sean is a supporter of the Scottish arts including plans for a National Gallery of Photography at the site of Edinburgh's Royal High School, and a film and television centre in Leith. He is also supportive of emerging talent including Scots actors such as Gerard Butler and James McAvoy, who recently starred in The Last King of Scotland.

"What we have to do now is make sure we are helping to cultivate the next generation of talent. It's not rocket science - you look around the world at schemes that have been working in supporting the arts, sport and culture and you think, why don't we do more of that here?

"I'm glad to see the SNP is promoting some of these policies."

The full article contains 697 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 10 April 2007 8:44 AM
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  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

Paul in Oz,

08/04/2007 23:39:44

So as a sign of your confidence in a new independent Scotland Sean will you back date your tax bill and pay it into the economy of Scotland for a loss in the revenue generated by the council tax

;-)

Seems he is happy to put his mouth about nmaybe he should be so happy to put his money about as well!

2

K.Y,

Edinburgh 08/04/2007 23:51:42

Oh no!

Another reason (to go along with tax and spending chaos, smallmindedness and splitting us up from our close neighbours who we share values with) to not vote SNP!

Turns out there really is no independence without a cost!

3

Faye,

Scotland 08/04/2007 23:51:45

#1 What a stupid comment. If there has been one long term supporter of SNP, it's been Sean Connery.

Have you recently paid £500k to the UK tax system Paul in Oz?

Have you ever paid as much as £500k in your working lifetime in taxes?

Of course there are rich people 'working' the tax system, but that's not their fault.

The fault lies with the politicians for allowing the legislative loopholes in the first place. Badly drafted revenue legislation isn't the fault of those who then decided to work by the rules.

There is a difference between tax evasion and avoidance Paul. I hope you can appreciate the difference.

Anyway, Oz will take more in tax from you especially if you are a UK settlor.

4

The Daleks,

08/04/2007 23:53:21

Tax bill, shmax bill.

Who cares where Sean has been paying his taxes these past years.

There is an enormous Scottish diaspora numbering in the millions, if you count ex-pat Scots, and those of Scots descent.

A huge percentage of them vocally support Scottish independence, without paying UK taxes.

Sean has every right to live wherever he wants, and regardless of whether it's the Bahamas or Brora, he's still entitled to an opinion on the land of his birth

5

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08/04/2007 23:54:49
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6

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 09/04/2007 00:12:53

What world chattering news . An actor will return after abandoning it (Scotland) 50 years ago.
In his old age I think dementia has overtake S.Connery.

Galactic cannibal

7

Pete W,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 00:18:32

#1: I presume you would be willing to do the same should you return? Or is this one expat throwing stones at another from the safety of his glass fortress?

8

Seannair,

Oban 09/04/2007 00:20:28

Sean Connery has put more back into Scotland than most of our residents and the miserable comments from the likes of AM2 will not make a hoot of difference to his commitment to Scotland. Anyone can establish that Sean has set up considerable Trust Funds to assist less fortunate Scottish youngsters.
I marched down the Royal Mile in 2004 when the Holyrood building was officially opened and I did that within 20 yards of the world's most famous living Scot. I would dearly like to share again that company when we take control of our own affairs.

9

Faye,

Scotland 09/04/2007 00:26:00

If dementia has overtaken Sean Connery then he's come to the right place.

Scottish Labour made sure the first piece of major social legislation protected such people. Scots ought to be grateful for such foresight.

http://news.scotsman.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=532132007 Comment: 29.

10

Cincinnatus,

The Capital 09/04/2007 00:27:35

A number of posts clearly manifesting the Scottish Cringe, you myopic parochial fools.

Come on home Sean, the revolution is just around the corner:-)

11

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09/04/2007 00:33:32
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12

Alistair Stewart,

Updated daily with reported Labour news 09/04/2007 00:50:47

www.dont-vote-labour.co.uk

If it shows Labour for the lying, self-serving, PR machine they are ... it's on this website

www.dont-vote-labour.co.uk

13

Canada,

Canada 09/04/2007 00:51:22

A phrophet hath no honour in his own land. I wish many Home Scots who have never lived abroad would be more cautious in criticizing the vast majoroity of Scots who do or have lived abroad. Simply put: most Scots are abroad, for many reasons. They do assimilite easily but still retain their unique Scottishness and understanding of Scottish affairs, some with more understanding than their Daily Record educated brethren at home. Study a Scot who has left his native heath of any ilk or pairt: Carnegie, Connery, Stevenson,, the heart grows fonder, the love stronger. You have to have been there. So hold your idle tongues, your wimpering asides. The Scottish diaspora has more imagination, love, and power than your small minds can comprehend. They see from the experience of other nations and what Scots have given to them what the Scots need to grant to themselves as their birthright. Independence! Because we are overseas, do we not have a voice in our native land? I pick up the Scotsman. There are opinions on everything from America politics to Chinese human rights. Let's try and uphold the dignity of this space by staying on topic, not slagging one another.
Happy Easter. He is risen!

14

INTER-nationalist,

09/04/2007 00:51:59

Is he coming back to take advantage of free personal care for the elderly?

Or is it because he knows his wife won't be guaranteed entry?

15

Alistair Stewart,

Updated daily with reported Labour news 09/04/2007 00:53:52

VOTE LABOUR FOR MORE ANTI-SOCIAL BEHAVIOUR AND LESS POLICE AND LESS PRISON PLACES

Vote Labour for more crime!

16

Colin P,

09/04/2007 00:58:13

Sir Sean and others, in the early 60s, organised the beginnings of the YTS scheme. He put his own money into it when the government had no faith. Once it was working, they stepped in and took over. He never asked for that money back.
It seems that many who gripe about Sir Sean and other ex-pats are doing so out of jealousy. He obviously is a prouder Scot than they are.

17

Alan Reid,

wellington 09/04/2007 01:17:36

All you knocking Sean are just a bunch pathtic jealous tossers. The boy did well, very well, he's giving huge amounts of money to good causes in his homeland. Even if he didn't live in this country to aviod paying taxes SO WHAT!!!
Why the hell should he, it's his money, and why should stay in a country and get whacked for tax when there's no way he'd ever, ever vote for these who plunder Scotland, and continue to do so.
Get off his case, you labour drones.

18

Broomageboy,

09/04/2007 01:20:42

Aye right big man, don't talk P##h
Just because people make money making films doesn't mean they're clever and the milkman proves it everytime he opens his mouth about Scotland.

19

Colin P,

09/04/2007 01:26:44

Under fire Sir Sean reveals £3.7m tax bill

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=652&id=276822003

Seems like some of you have short memories.

20

Alan Reid,

wellington 09/04/2007 01:27:20

So what do YOU say about Scotland? Like are we doing well? Or are you just one of those labour clone? 'LABOUR is for the working man waffle waffle'

21

clawmaster,

glasgow 09/04/2007 01:27:55

yeah, he has done a lot for Scotland with youth training and education schemes and such like. he has also done a lot in the way of tartan day and friends of scotland. when he made his james bond comeback in 1970 he did so as long as a £1m fee went to charity. i think he has been trying for some time to get that film centre/studio up and running. i hope he succeeds ecause that can only bring opportunities to aspiring actors and jobs to the area as well.

if people's worst complaint is that he voices his opinion from abroad then all things considered this is a lame response. if its about taxes then I think you'll find he has paid tax for work in this country.

22

Faye,

Scotland 09/04/2007 01:28:41

#15. Free personal care. Hardly...it's not obligatory you know!

If you read the link, comment 29 you would have understood my comment.

Scottish Labour's first major piece of social policy legislation was not to serve the interests of the powerful, the vociferous or the partisan but, rather those who have been voiceless and vulnerable.

Hence my comment re protecting those who are unfortunate to have dementia.

23

Dekester,

Canada's westcoast 09/04/2007 01:30:23

My we Scots can be such a negative bunch, truly tragic and maybe even pathetic.

Those of us who left the land of our birth did do for many reasons, many have done incredibly well.

Many still hold the land of our birth near and dear to our hearts.

Sean Connery is class pure and simple, a wonderful example of manhhood. We should all be proud, and stand behind such a man.

The bitter folks that malign this man should really take a look at themselves. Sir Sean has been Knighted, has taken on the power brokers in hollywood and won,he has become rich,famous and a philanthropist of note.

Of course he should have known his place, stayed down, and never left the "close".

" Aye right"
C'mon Scotland, let us be honest.. what Scot in their right mind would vote for Jack, Tony or Gordon? over Connery.

It really does appear that a great # of Scots still in Scotland are sheep, and have little backbone.

C'mon Scotland let us do it. We really have no idea of our potential.

24

Alan Reid,

wellington 09/04/2007 01:35:52

Dekester, here here mate!

25

Faye,

Scotland 09/04/2007 01:44:58

I am surprised that Labour still has activists prepared to put posters on poles in Scotland.

Scottish Labour did good initially but its all gone 'tits up' because of Stephen Nicol's preaching cronies and the 'smoke and mirror' behind door done deals. That, along with TBlair, is probably why many Scots are disillusioned.

Alex Salmond maybe the answer and many Scots are prepared to give him a try but the failure to come clean on the 3% community tax issue and SNP's stance on plastering Scotland wind turbines is worrying.

The signs are just the same as the rest, 'hoodwinking' the Scottish public.

Maybe Alex Salmond might rescue the situation but his trolls on these boards are dodgers.

When queried or asked a direct question they usually disappear and when the return they say "we were out canvassing".

Still they fail to answer simple direct questions.

That's why those hoovering will probably end up either not voting or voting Labour again.

More of the same.

I guess for some it will be down to simply prefering not to wander away from something they don't like but know.

Taking a risk with the unknown who fails to come clean?

26

Dekester,

canada's westcoast 09/04/2007 01:45:14

# 24.

Cheers to you.

27

Dekester,

canada's westcoast 09/04/2007 01:47:23

oops. of course I meant #25.

28

Footy Fan,

Austin, TX 09/04/2007 02:19:44

Those idiots who are having a go at Connery about paying tax should remember that he has paid a lot more taxes than them. What are they complaining about ?

29

iRoy,

09/04/2007 02:24:45

Thing is Sean people still remember you making the exact same promise if we got a parliament. But there was no where in Scotland to your taste so you bought property in America instead.

Four years later you were attempting to film an advert for the SNP in the Dean Village outside my home, I asked you repeatedly about your previous promise and you all packed up and moved on.

Scotland good enough to preach to, not good enough to stay in.

30

Canny Mann,

Scottish Borders. 09/04/2007 02:28:55

AM and your cronies,
As soon as someone talks up scotland, you and your friends, set about attacking them.
As soon as someone mentions independence, you attack them.
If you cant knock what they did, you attempt a charecter assasination.
You are the gloom and doom brigade. The majority of people visiting this website, are upbeat about this upcoming election. It is the most bouyant and exciting election in my memory.
Scotland is bouyant, yet you are not. What a sadness must be in your life. You are truelly the most perfect double for Victor Meldrew.
Sir Sean, has always been an ambassador of Scotland, 99% of the time a perfect gent, 1% just a human being with human failings. He has been a great Scot. As big and influential as Sir Walter Scot, Sir Harry Lauder, Sir Jackie Stewart, Sir Alex Ferguson and Sir William Wallace.
Give up on the Scot bashing please. You are becoming an embarressment to everything Union.

From the weeks of negitivity you have pumped into these websites. Dont you think you should have a look at yourself.

Vote SNP on 3rd of may.

It is time.

31

Rhonda,

09/04/2007 02:44:27

Oh come on now... People have a right to live where they want. You go Connery!!!!!!!

32

Navvy,

09/04/2007 02:46:35

Sean Connery is surely a lovely man and I still rate him as the best 007 but I do not rate actors as politicians. Theirs is a world of make belief. Look at Glenda Jackson, brillaint actress but a failure as an MP.

The Scots who wrote the American Declaration of Independence and their Constitution are a better model. It is a sad world where the most famous living Scot is a retired actor.

Where are todays Kier Hardie, Balfour, Ramsay MacDonald? Where are the likes of the men of the 40s and 50s?

33

I hae tae choose a name that's nae taken yet,

A Garret in Paris 09/04/2007 02:50:03

#24 Here here to you again...
I've nae got near like Sean's money, (or even a smiggen o' his talent).
But yes, I am a financial expat. However the wee bit gelt and meagre skills I have got together will one day, I hope, be at the service of the country I was born in, and I truly believe in.
I'm just waiting for the opportunity to avoid it being completely wasted.
And no, before you say it, I'm no a SNP drone.
I'm just a wee bitty manny - who is very proud to be from - and is confident of the future of - his country of birth and the folks therefrom.
I spent quite a few years in London, and saw, close up, the full spin in action (and was even a spokespinner myself).....but....now - Enough - It's about time for us, the Scots, to be making our own mistakes.....
It's finally time....

34

Canny Mann,

Scottish Borders. 09/04/2007 03:17:42

26 Faye,
You have asked questions that probably cant be answered, well not until after 3rd of may. If you had gone to the SNP website and looked about, you would probably have found the answers. If the answers were not there for you to research. then surely you would have to recognise these issues are not in the SNP manifesto.
You as a voter have the ability to leave a question of SNP policy with the relevent website.
If you feel you are going to find these answers in a Union website, then I fear your politics are rather skewed.
The SNP and independence supporters, visiting this website, dont come here as appologists. We came to do political debating battle in a union website, with yourself and unionists, over union policies. We came to knock the illusions of union grandeur, with the untruths our political masters have used to hoodwink the Scots.
We dont defend this unionist newspaper website, we are here to remind people of the untruths(WMD, 45 minutes to armagedon), the corruption(Tory and Labour, cash for questions and peerages), Sleaze(Tory and Labour extra marital affairs).

I could go on and on with the reminders of what you may believe is good for Scotland and has been demonstrated as strong for the union.
Maybe you could enlighten us, in order we are not hoodwinked...

So please tell us what may be seen as good for Scotland, benefits Scots and let us all have a good giggle.

Vote SNP on 3rd of may.

It is time.

35

bill inch,

09/04/2007 03:54:09

stah were you are sean and give us peace

36

Tatiana,

edinburgh 09/04/2007 04:46:59

He will NEVER settle in Scotland. He might buy a house as a token gesture, but will NEVER live in it for more than 90 days a year.

37

Expat artist,

home 09/04/2007 04:47:34

To the gloom and doom brigade.
You remind me of my old auntie on a rare sunny day in ever Bonnie Scotland: 'Lovely day, auntie!' 'Och aye, but we'll pay for it in November, mark my words'.
My guess is the same syndrome will be hard at work in early May and SNP will fail yet again as the doom brigade will be counting the potential loss and not the potential gain.
I would just like to add to the other expatriate comments: we Scots remain Scots irrespective of how long we have been away. Many left reluctantly -yes, and selfishly - to follow career opportunities, but not to escape something as mindless as tax and a penny-pinching mentality.
An independent Scotland is long overdue and would put Scotland on par with countries like Holland, Denmark, Norway with roughly the same populations and resources. But most important of all, it would re-energize optimism and self confidence creating an environment providing opportunities - especially in the arts - that otherwise have to found elsewhere
Finally, if independence eventually becomes a reality, it would no longer be possible to blame Westminster for Scotland's woes. Living up to the consequences of your own actions, now that's real independence.

38

Cringe,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 04:49:18

I hope Sean stays in the sun for a good few years longer

39

wtm,

Melbourne 09/04/2007 05:30:43

I was very disappointed when Sean Connery bent the knee to that wee German woman so he could get a title. Maybe if he renounced the title he'd do more for Scottish independence.

40

williamx,

Delta, Canada 09/04/2007 05:49:09

I don't think the Scots have the guts to vote for independence. It will be the usual situation, a lot of hot air before the vote and the status quo after. Dream on boys and girls

41

donald,

weegieland 09/04/2007 05:50:53

Will HM court jester Billy (the Brit) Connolly move back to Windsor when Scotland ACHIEVES Independence?

Or wil he stay in 'Little Britain, NY, with all the other Brit Award expats and tax dodgers?

Will fellow loyalist Old Firm fans, Brian (Scotland is British) Wilson, John )Border guards at Carlisle, but not Dover) Reid, et al, join him?

42

donald,

weegieland 09/04/2007 05:51:04

Will HM court jester Billy (the Brit) Connolly move back to Windsor when Scotland ACHIEVES Independence?

Or wil he stay in 'Little Britain, NY, with all the other Brit Award expats and tax dodgers?

Will fellow loyalist Old Firm fans, Brian (Scotland is British) Wilson, John )Border guards at Carlisle, but not Dover) Reid, et al, join him?

43

Rulesbutnotrulers,

Erewhon 09/04/2007 06:01:35

Another reason why it's not time.

44

GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 09/04/2007 06:10:17

14. Canada, Canada
You wrote
"Happy Easter. He is risen!"

Wrong mate, that old fart Connery is still in bed.

Its his dementia you know, and his money can't stop that.

Here's a joke for you Canada man.

A Really Bad Day
There was this guy at a bar, just looking at his drink. He stays like that for half of an hour.

Then, this big trouble-making truck driver steps next to him, takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down. The poor man starts crying. The truck driver says, "Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I'll buy you another drink. I just can't stand to see a man cry."

"No, it's not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I go late to my office. My boss, outrageous, fires me. When I leave the building, to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home, and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away."

"I go home, and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home, and come to this bar. And just when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison."


Galactic Cannibal

45

An Australian,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 06:17:41

I'd gladly swap Edinburgh for the Bahamas, if he's intrested...

46

david team,

09/04/2007 06:25:20

connery ? a self important p****

47

The Voice,

Aberdeen 09/04/2007 06:35:40

Come on back Sean!

All the sensible people will be leaving!

The SNP and their supporters need to grow up.

Scotland is just a small country of about 5 million people, who produce nothing!

48

CaliforniaBhoy,

09/04/2007 06:42:08

I could point out that the ex-pats are the ones that really see that Scotland can go it alone.

We have travelled to the ends of this earth and have been succesful despite having it drummed into us that we should be doing what our fathers did

49

John1,

Stirling 09/04/2007 06:53:52

I have a lot of respect for Sean Connery as an actor, but his opinions on politics are worth no more than anyone else's. Like many people he moved to where the work is. I have no problems with that. It's normal for any organisation to use high-profile supporters to advertise their cause but that's no reason to expect the rest of us to follow.
I'd be happy to see the SNP return to its useful function of being a goad at Westminster on behalf of Scotland. I'll be voting to keep the Union if they get their referendum. Let's hope the the question we are asked to answer is straightfoward and the publicity not skewed the way it was for the referendum on having a Scottish parliament.

50

School Inspector,

09/04/2007 06:58:17

Well, I fully intend to quit an independant Scotland for the Bahamas ............ Karin, would you like to write an article about that?

51

Trebor,

09/04/2007 07:10:15

Well congratulations to all of you who had the drive, ambition and courage to leave Scotland to go and live in foreign lands and to then automatically increase by many factors your intelligence quotient because you had left this dreary wee country behind to go out into the big bad world. How wonderful for you all, congratulations.
I don't care where you were born. That was obviously just an accident of geography. You left and you stayed away. Spare us from the advice of those who gaze back at Scotland through tartan coloured spectacles from a few thousand miles away and who then give us unwanted counsel on how to improve our lives here in Scotland. We won't give advice on how to vote in the Bahamas, Canada, Australia and anywhere else the great diaspora of pompous ex-pats have chosen to live. Do us all a favour and stick to your porridge sandwiches and tartan days oot and let us here decide what the future will be.

52

puskas,

EK 09/04/2007 07:16:24

One thing for sure the pro unionist don't have any credibility in argueing for the status que..

Anyone who wishes to slip up the backsides of a London based government and accept scraps has no honour.

Money it seems comes into the equation whilst debating what is good for the Scottish people. Nothing wrong with that but I will say not the most important factor on May 3rd.

Any other nation with a population that wishes to be taken in by the corrupt pro-unionist stance deserves the likes of wee Joke, Bliar, Brown, Reid, Des Brown, wee Alexia-alexander....Wendy . Agh.

Everyone of them would even look out of place in the comedy Yes Minister. Lies, Lies Liars across the board from Iraq, Pensions, et al..

Oh I forgot Adam coward Ingram always pro-union since the 60's and never a Labour man with views from a working mans perspective..
Not many young canvasers for Labour coming through in my neck of the woods. Basically late 50's - 60's. The young ones it seems can see through the cheating lying hypercrites better than some of their elders who would vote for Elmer Fudd as a Labour candidate...Because ma mammy and daddy did. LOL
Now thats a point, Elmer for Labour? .

Any Scot wishing to put nationhood on the back burner from the financial aspect because we MAY be worst off can scuttle down to our friends in England.
Of course when gaining independance there shall be highs and lows. That should not frighten Scots' as decision making for Scotland shall be in our hands and the benefits shall be reaped through just that.

Smaller nations/islands have fought for independance throughout history whilst Scotlands traitors have undermined and manipulated throughout the ages the same for Scotland...

Its not relevant really. Who is the joker AM2 LOL..

24 and 31 well said..


Vote SNP 3rd May

53

LA,

Los Angeles 09/04/2007 07:16:41

#52

Trebor (Sherbet)

And what will you decide is your future? Or do you prefer London decide that for you? By the way, your post is hysterically pompous.

LA

54

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toryheaven.blogspot.com,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 07:24:03

It's not immediately obvious to me what Sir Sean thinks would change in an independent Scotland that would make it so desirable for him to return here. If anything, the interfering state is likely to become more interfering, as the peddlers of big government on the Left will be able to exert their influence more easily in a small nation. We are likely to have higher taxes, more legislative control of our lives, more state employees, andf a larger benefit class. How would any of those things be attractive to someone who has left Scotland for a low tax, sunnier enivronment?

I don't blame Sir Sean or any other ex-pats for leaving Scotland (as #52 seems to), good luck to them! Scots have always sought to make their fortune in the world, to the great enhancement of the countries to which they have emigrated, but I really fail to see what would happen post-independence to bring them bad. I'm afraid that Sir Sean is indulging in a bit of electioneering here, presumably on the premise that his return (like the King o'er the Water) will somehow gladden his people's hearts. On the contrary, I suspect there are many who would be more than happy to join him in other parts of the world where socialism is not gnawing away at the fabric of society.

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John Jamieson,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 07:28:56

No 48 from The Voice, Aberdeen.
Most of the sensible people seem have left already! I think that Scotland exports graduates, oil, electricity and whisky at the moment and in the past a few other things like ships.

57

Mart DownUnder,

Down Under 09/04/2007 07:33:44

A former British secret agent, 007, now advocating a break up of Her Majesty's Realm.

High Treason ! ..... Q would be devastated

58

John S,

09/04/2007 07:37:18

Sean Connery has said what he will do when Scotland becomes independent and we should welcome him back with open arms.

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jim lad,

the capital 09/04/2007 07:38:49

If the NATS think this is good news for Scotland thats fine, for other ordinary people it means nowt and couldn't care less.

60

Jeeemy,

09/04/2007 07:40:03

O' lord grant the gift, tae see oorsels as ithers see us.
48 the Voice#
is your coat on and are you catching the 11 am train? Remember and stop off in Edinburgh and collect the likeminded.
may you and yours travel widely looking for your perfect home, but should your wanderings bear no fruit then be assured we will always welcome home the prodicals.

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somerferg,

o 09/04/2007 07:40:33

Good on you Sir Sean - you are one of the very few true stars that we have and you have never changed your opinions about your home nor have you been bought like so many others we could mention here. If it were up to me I would declare a national holiday for your homecoming and believe you me it can't come too soon especially after reading some of the numpties on this comment board today.

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foxxy,

dunblane 09/04/2007 07:42:28

Sir Sean is the biggest hypocrite the SNP have. It's easy to say he'll return to Scotland if it gained independence, when it is so unlikely to happen. If he really cared for Scotland so much he would set an example by living in Scotland now

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Erse,

Middle East 09/04/2007 07:48:55

# 41.

Too true my friend. As much as I would love to see the people in Scotland have the confidence to stand up for themselves and take their own destiny in their own hands I'm afraid it will be the same old story come May the 3rd especially with complete like #55 having a say. Too many sheep following Westminster lies!

I left Scotland many years ago because I saw no hope for Her after seeing the systemmatic destruction caused by successive Tory and Labour governments.I fully agree with #49 it takes a big step to leave your own country and culture, it takes a big step to make such a change, it takes confidence in ones own beliefs.

Most Scots back home don't even have the confidence or the inclination to change their own vote. Sad!

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conservative,

Fife 09/04/2007 07:49:12

The greatest thing Sir Sean could do for Scotland is to stay exactly where he is and to shut his huge trap.

Happy to take our cash and adulation. Happy to keep his taxes. Happy to criticise anything and everything. And after all just what is he - an actor with absolutely no knowledge or ability in politics or government.

65

Boy Wonder,

09/04/2007 07:51:24

Sean has had to sue every major Hollywood studio to get what he considered his fair dues ... and won! He moved abroad at a time when the taxation system was iniquitous (and still is). I don't blame him. He's always maintained he'd come back if it was a fairer system. When YOU earn your money, don't YOU whinge at having to give a percentage to the taxman?? Plus, with working around the world making movies, it was probably easier to live in sunny climes during breaks in filming. I have no problem with that.

Sean also set up a charitable foundation in Scotland, into which a percentage of his earnings went. How many young Scots benefitted from that? He's the most famous Scot in the world today and he works as an ambassador for the country of his birth unstintingly. He has ALWAYS wanted Scotland to be Independent from the Union. Again, I have no problem with that.

As a person from a long line of Labour voters, not at all happy with New Labour, which is NOT the party I was once a paid-up member of, I'm voting SNP for the first time ever. No longer at odds with my country's biggest star. And I'll happily have the last of the really big movie stars come back to his city to live out his remaining years

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James,

Dundee 09/04/2007 07:55:55

Let us picture the Unionist Trolls who lurk in the shadows popping up every so often to 'enlighten us' with perceived wisdom, with AM as their Lord Protector.

Like Cromwellian puritans you can see them dressed in black with their starched collars, their sad little cooncil jobs and perks, their fretful lives stuck in a mindset that would prevent rising of the sun if they could 'ban it'.

The doom laden naysayers, counting their thin dimes, dead set against the evolution of Scotland, like a platoon of sleeping policemen on the road to Independence.

The Scotsman is their rag.

I have news for you.

Independence is coming to a country near you soon.

Our day will come.

Will we rejoice? You betcha.

67

Brianwci,

www.edinburghtechniques.co.uk 09/04/2007 07:57:40

No 48 The Voice: Scotland is just a small country of about 5 million people, who produce nothing!

That comment is so off the wall it doesn't need an anwer, it answers itself. Thank God you aren't supporting the Independence arugument Mr Voice from Aberdeen....of all places, Oil capital of Europe.

68

I'm no really here,

09/04/2007 08:02:48

Sir Sean has been a great supporter and a great asset to Scotland. Far more than ANY unionist who don't even believe in their own country. He has done more, and contributed more and vocally supported Scotland more than the vast majority of Scots.

This is a mobile international world. I wouldn't expect Sir Sean to HAVE to come back and live here. Quite frankly, at his age, he would be better off staying in a warmer climate. He would live longer, and Scotland would have him longer.

Well done Sir Sean, and thank you.

69

Trebor,

09/04/2007 08:03:31

#64 I've read through my post again. Can you point out where I indicate what my politics are and how I will be voting?

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Mick W.,

Nuneaton 09/04/2007 08:08:24

You will not get independance while Big Bad Broon is in charge,he'll have to return to being a small fish in a small pond.Not just him,remember nearly all ministers in Westminster are Scotts.They will not give you independance untill they have achieved their aim of destroying England(should'nt be long now though!)

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Pete39,

Tassy 09/04/2007 08:20:16

Well in the Labour party, you have jobs for the boys. "the boys" do not all the time refer to Labour voters. With the Conservatives, you have the old school tie. Scotland has the ability to form an independent government with capable people from all political parties. It does not take a bloody genius to work that out you know, unfortunately being expats, we do not have a vote.

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JG,

Fife 09/04/2007 08:20:46

#72 AM2
Ah, but that's the thing - I also have never said how I'm going to vote, yet if I don't bow down to the supposed greatness of the SNP and their buddah, Alex Salmond, I am castigated, considered to be less Scottish than they are and advised to leave the country!

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Erse,

Middle East 09/04/2007 08:21:10

#70 You haven't. It was your derisive scorn and jealousy of Scots men and women worldwide who have had the guts and determination to make a difference for themselves where their own country has let them down that made me think you are a .

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Miss Jean Brodie,

09/04/2007 08:22:38

Anyday now the Union might bring benefits to Scotland . . . nah - it’s not going to happen now.

Time to split up

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Steve Foley,

England 09/04/2007 08:23:51

Good Luck to Sean Connery if he wishes to return to Scotland should the SNP win the coming Election and subsequent referendum on Independence. It will not make any significant difference to the future of Scotland where he lives to be quite candid.

I remember in 1997 some high profile Entertainers and Sportsmen said they would leave Britain if Blair and New Labour won the Election. Surprise, surprise, they are still living here 100 years and 2 elections later.

One question though. If he does return to an Independent Scotland will he drop the English Knighthood bestowed by English Politicians and revert to being plain Sean Connery?

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James,

Dundee 09/04/2007 08:23:59

#72
Simply a focus on what will make Scotland better place to live.
What is good for England/UK (after all nothing will/has been done in Scotlands favour over England in this partnership of unequals)
No wars no WMD.
Lets devote the economy towards bettering the lives of those who live here.
Lets make Scotland a center of excellence for renewables, medical and biomedical research.
Undepinned by the windfall of Oil.
These and other issues have been posted ad nausem on this site.
Cold economics dont always tell the whole story, as Scotland will be going in a different direction post Independence.
Be happy spouting other peoples stats and reports. Do you have no personal views to share, or did you leave your own individualty in Larne?

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Steve Foley,

England 09/04/2007 08:25:46

Whoops, that should be 10 years not 100! It just feels that way after having had to suffer Blair and New Labour for so long!

BTW why does this Forum not have an edit facility as many other Internet Fora provide?

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Trebor,

09/04/2007 08:32:39

Most politicians are manipulators of the truth and will do whatever is necessary on the manipulation front to remain in, or gain power.

In 1955 the Tory vote in Scotland was 50% but due to their complete ineptitude they now don't have a vote worth mentioning. Nowadays they are quite happy for Scotland to gain independence because that would effectively mean that the Tories would govern England, at least for the forseeable future.
Broon, Blair and wee Joke see 40+ Scottish Labour seats disappearing from Westminster which would bring about the scenario noted above.

Their concern has nothing to do with Scotland's ability to thrive as a completely separate nation but more to do with their own political demise.

As for the SNP; who knows what we are going to get if they are elected. From previous statements my understanding was that the SNP would effectively disband after independance had been gained because then that party would not be required as their sole reason for being is to gain independence. The country would then revert to traditional left, right, centre and looney parties.

Just as many ex-pats have emotional ties to Scotland even after many years living abroad, many living in Scotland have emotional ties to the union and sometimes emotions are more powerful than reason. Polling day will be interesting.

79

GrahamH,

09/04/2007 08:38:26

Amazing the bile above for Sean, another case of Scots attacking their own success.

Sean has donated broadly to Scotland, though by not living here has seen his money go to good causes, not wasted on trams etc.

80

Maxwell,

09/04/2007 08:41:58

"SIR Sean Connery has said he will return to his native Scotland if it is granted independence"

Granted is the wrong expression. Exercised her sovereign and undisputed democratic right to take her own independence would be more accurate.

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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 08:42:02

Why all the delusion that things will be milk and honey, when and if we secede (who's going to GRANT us independence by the way? we're an independent nation whose forebears chose, however dodgily to enter a Union with the country next door) from the UK? We Scots are more than capable of running our own country, but under an SNP government? Don't make me larf. They're Old Labour in tartan bunnets. The same old timeserving cronies, in kilts. The heavy tiller of the state running the economy and our lives, taxing us to the hilt. We need a new calibre of poliician if we are to make a success the future.

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Graeme F,

09/04/2007 08:46:48

Yeah, what a real patriot Sean Connery is. He won't live in the country he professes to love because he doesn't like the current administration. That's real devotion to Scotland, that.

Sean's obviously let all that Bahaman sunshine adle his brains.

83

Trebor,

09/04/2007 08:47:13

#76 I have a property abroad and live there part of the year. I take no part in the local politics far less the regional or national politics of that place because I don't belong there. Whatever decision those people make about how they want to be governed is entirely up to them. If I don't like the colour of their politics I can leave and go elsewhere or else just remain in Scotland all year. Most of them don't have that luxury and they have got to decide how to run their country as suits them. There are things that I would like to see changed over there but I would feel very uncomfortable voting even though I would be entitled to.

It's different for Scottish ex-pats I imagine but they don't live here and many of them haven't for many years. There is no jealousy on my part and I have admiration for them as it takes a lot to uproot and live in a different culture. However, I don't believe for one instant that everybody who has left Scotland did so because we didn't have independence. They left primarily for economic reasons or perhaps to be close to other family members etc but not because we didn't have independence.
If they had felt that strongly about it they would have stayed and fought for it.

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Trebor,

09/04/2007 08:51:06

#83 see post 86. By the way, 6' 1" 185lbs, 15% body fat. Can't prove it to you of course but why would I need to?

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Swilly Tisher,

Loch Maree 09/04/2007 08:52:04

Superb news. And, at the same time , export Jack & Bridget from Bute House to Boleskine House.

86

Greenheatman,

09/04/2007 08:52:44

#80

""BTW why does this Forum not have an edit facility as many other Internet Fora provide?""

I agree this is a pretty limited forum - take a look at Shetlink - this is how it should be with 'edit' and 'insert image' capabilities - here is an example of what every forum should look like!

http://shetlink.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=view...

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Mack1,

Carlisle 09/04/2007 08:56:58

Wouldn't start packing your bags anytime soon, Sean.
Since Devolution it has been estimated that 40% of jobs in Scotland are on the public payroll; do you think that they are going to vote for independence with all the uncertainty for the future that that implies? New Labour black propaganda will ensure that, if a referendum ever takes place, it will deliver the required result - No.

88

Doh,

09/04/2007 09:04:58

If he wants to swap houses - he's got a deal.

89

Harryc,

09/04/2007 09:05:10

Just got a wee article here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6538007.stm

Well Alex, if it's your vision of Scotland and England being "best pals" after independence, then why do you intend to run away to London to start a war with Westminster? Sounds ever so slightly hypocritial to me! If England make Euro 2008 next summer and Scotland don't, will I be free to support them without the threat of deportation for being a "traitor"? And as for that bald, tashed buffoon Sean Connery, if he was so passionate about this bonnie wee country, then what the hell's he been doing lying on his backside in the Bahamas all that time? Puhleeeze!

90

Trebor,

09/04/2007 09:08:46

#83 It wasn't your post that me off either as I hadn't read it at the time. I have now and I'm happy that you are happy. Happiness makes the world go round!

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Banana Heid,

Ayrshire 09/04/2007 09:10:54

You are welcome back to your homeland Sean. Scotland will welcome you home with open arms. Independance is a foregone conclusion no matter what the Unionists are saying. The people of scotland are ready for the change.

92

KL1,

09/04/2007 09:14:45

#83. Agree 100%.

Those of us who live overseas see what independent nation states can achieve - we enjoy enjoy the success it brings too. We want the same for our country of origin/land of our forefathers too. You guys criticise the well-intentioned observations of expats but are ready to absorb the negativity emanating from London or the Lab/Lib Executive. The parochial glass half empty cringe is alive and kicking.

Stay away Sir Sean. and enjoy the Bahamian sun.
Your biggest misfortune was to be born a Scot.

93

Willie,

09/04/2007 09:15:46

Who cares? Naebody
Why do celebs think we care who they vote for?
Many of them have a talent which they have exploited. Well good on them.
But it doesn't mean that we are automatically swayed by their sudden adoption of a fitba team, or a political party or drink the milk they used to deliver round Edinburgh. (If you could get it)
If Sean Connery returns that is his affair but i cant see many Scots voting just because he says so.
Salmond may get an invite to Connery Towers but few of rest of us would want one.
The man isn't a local hero and may prove a liability rather than an asset.

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Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 09:17:56

Shooie, Erse, Sir Sean and all you other ex-pats and plastic Jocks. Yeah, you are entitled to an opinion on this matter but Trebor's and the rest are MORE relevant. Like those others who haven't shot the craw for pastures sunnier, I presume he's paying taxes here and living with the consequences of OUR votes. When you come back home then we'll afford your opinions that wee bit more respect.

95

Ernest,

09/04/2007 09:18:37

Must be a slow news day. Who cares..... he's only saying that because it won't happen in his lifetime.

96

Buckfastleigh,

09/04/2007 09:23:37

#99. Perhaps he knows it will. Ernest vote for it and it will happen!

97

Rossmcl,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 09:24:51

Why the hell do the journalists and politicians persist in thinking that this matters? Nobody in Scotland could give a toss where Sean Connery is, quite frankly, or what he does. Let's have some real reporting please.

98

Buckfastleigh,

09/04/2007 09:25:05

Everyone throughout the world knows Sir Connery and he is a great example of a successful Scot. Welcome back soon!

99

W Smith,

Middle East 09/04/2007 09:25:33

Lefties/socialists in the SNP should take note;

a) Sean condemns British colonialism by residing in one of England's oldest colonies.

b) Sean condemns capitalism by residing in a tax haven.

c) Sean condemns the British monarchy by accepting a knighthood.

d) Sean condemns the American 'occupation' of Iraq but was initially concerned the movie The Hunt for Red October would upset the Soiviet Union.

The same regime that invaded Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Afghanistan in the 50's, 60's, and 70's respectively.

e) Sean condemns Tory middle class elitism by sending his son Jason to Gordonstoun.

f) Sean condemns private health care for the rich by arranging private health for himself.

You just couldn't make this up!

BTW
I think Sean Connery was great in the movie The Hunt for Red October - but claiming to be a socialist while living like a capitalist is his greatest performance yet!

He's just another millionaire leftie who needs to go and read Animal Farm by George Orwell.

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James Moore,

Oahu Hawaii 09/04/2007 09:30:40

Connery is a parasite and a joke!

Will he drop his title he received from an English monarch? I don't think so!

He was a great actor and ambassador to Scotland however when it comes to politics he should keep quiet! Just making himself look stupid!

101

Gaga,

Panama 09/04/2007 09:38:35

Are you doubting Thomas's really satisfied with continually being shafted by a foreign power? Get a grip!

Its time! Vote SNP, and welcome home Big Tam to the biggest party in the universe on May 4th.

102

The Strategist,

09/04/2007 09:39:02

Believe me if Labour get re-elected in Scotland there will be a lot more people with talent and enterprise who will simply up sticks and leave.

103

Evan Owen,

Snowdonia 09/04/2007 09:44:17

A very old Shcott with a knighthood returning to hish beloved newly independent Shcottland, shounds jusht the job dushn't it?

A really good actor with a bad attitude, par for the course.

I agree with those of you who think it is hypocitical to condemn all that is British while accepting an honour from English royalty. We have them in Wales too! Some are just as mad as the mad Shcotts, must be a Celtic trait, whatever a Celt was at any point in prehistory.

104

Mikey,

09/04/2007 09:44:47

AM, I assume you live in Scotland. If you do, why do you constantly criticise it? Wouldn't you be happier south of the border among your own kind? Will you leave when independence comes?

To the other unionists and fellow bedwetters, just what makes Scotland better off under England? Is it support for industry? Is it because we're an equal partner in the union with the same amount of MWPs as England? Perhaps it's because we're too stupid to run the country ourselves?

You lot are due for a rude awakeing next month. Will you stay and help build the country after decades of misrule or will you take the chicken run?

105

norma_mathieson,

edinburgh 09/04/2007 09:58:27

Wonderful, a wife beating misogynist is coming back to Scotland. Betwwen him and Brian Souter SNP "supporters" leave a to be desired. Just another reason not to vote SNP.

Maybe if Sir Sean came back to Scotland we could make him an ambassador to some obscure country and send him away again.

106

Gus Abraham,

09/04/2007 10:04:55

Dick # 109: "Believe me if Labour get re-elected in Scotland there will be a lot more people with talent and enterprise who will simply up sticks and leave."

I dont think thats a big worry, even the latest Unionst smear tactics have collapsed and Labour are now fighting each other like ferrets in a sack:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article2430093.ece

Hilarious stuff! Wouldnt be surprised if Connery came home and set up a film studio, a great boost for the Scottish film industry!

107

Ocean11,

Load of tosh 09/04/2007 10:07:57

I've more interest in SNP than I used to however, if this guy Connery becomes more than a fringe player then forget it, I'm not interested.

He's a cop out - whilst the rest of us stay here and pay our taxes, he legs it, great nationalist instinct there. He's a fair weather guy SNP and watch out or else his movie star ego will end up damaging you. You've been warned.

108

Ernest,

09/04/2007 10:09:07

#114

What a good idea. Maybe the Bahamas?

109

kameroon,

lanarkshire 09/04/2007 10:09:28

He may come back to reside in Scotland and pay huge ammounts of tax,but he's not going to give up his holiday home in the bahamas is he?also his work would take him to all parts of the world,so it really is only a question of "on paper he lives in Scotland"

110

Bermuda Bie,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 10:13:53

As someone who has lived most of my working life abroad, like Sir Sean, I have an opposite view. I returned to Scotland full of vim and vigour to help my country - not a chance! Ageism is rife and after contacting Jack McConnell about it and being passed on to a little girl at the Scottish Executive, I gave up so now I consult worldwide when the feeling takes me. I winter in Bermuda generally. If the Sad Numpty Party get in - it's simple - I go!

111

Denise,

back in Shetland again! 09/04/2007 10:20:00

Sean Connery is generating huge interest in Scotland, and puts large amounts of his own money into promoting the country. That can only be a good thing. Labour were quick enough to suck up to him when it suited them, if I recall.

It makes me sick that people think he has no business expressing his opinion because he lives outside Scotland, and then they go and vote for parties in London. Typical unionist mentality.

112

Doh,

09/04/2007 10:27:33

Tam could team up with LA and make a movie about an MP
found in bed with two teenage girls.
But to make it more exciting it could all be a setup by MI69
- thats the special unit dedicated to underming the SNP.

Scots whey hey.

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scotstoun_voter,

no more 09/04/2007 10:32:47

reasons to vote labour:
1 spent £55 billion on trident instead of education and health,
2 send scotland into constant debt over pfi,
3 put the council tax to even higher crippling levels,
4 keep joke mcdonnel at bute house,
5 ignore what the scottish people want and keep laughing boy someone steven as deputy first minister,
6 disamntle the highlands ferry services and let other freey companys move in andput profil before communitys.

6 reasons to vote labour
oh and let anyone who gives labour millions be appointed to house of lords the most undemocrating legislation in the world.

114

James.D,

09/04/2007 10:33:54

The greatest thing Sir Sean could do for Scotland is to stay exactly where he is and to shut his huge trap.

Happy to take our cash and adulation. Happy to keep his taxes. Happy to criticise anything and everything. And after all just what is he - an actor with absolutely no knowledge or ability in politics or government.

65, that was the utmost drivel. Happy to keep his taxes, why ever not, it is money he has earned, what cash has he taken from you? As for ability, just how many politicians have an ability? other than lining their own pockets, Taxes are the peoples money, stolen from you by a government that hasn't got a clue, it doesn't matter who you vote for, things will never change, not unless you have a shake up of the Civil Service, (The guys who really run the show)
Lay off the envy, rightly or wrongly, he earned his money, if he decides to come back, that would be his right.

115

Tarheel Scot,

09/04/2007 10:35:58

I always thought that Rod was Scotland's most famous expat. Will he be coming back, too?

116

Donny B,

My tropical island missile base.(secret) 09/04/2007 10:36:22

So , we know that James Bond is for independence , what all true Scots need to know now is where are the Krankies on this?
It's time , we know.

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Keir Hardie,

Inverness 09/04/2007 10:42:05

#33, I'm here! I suppose you meant the other one though...

118

Cincinnatus,

The Capital 09/04/2007 10:45:18

Come on home Sean, these muppets are no representative. Pathetic envy based opinions!


Vote no to Union and Yes to taking responsibility for ourselves:-)

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Alan Reid,

Wellington 09/04/2007 10:53:32

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=652&id=276822003
#20 cheers Col!
The people knocking Sean can have yet another look at this link. Hopefully it will shut some of them up. Ocean11 have a look please.
At the end of the day Sean just wants the best for his country, whatever he does he'll be knocked, why?
Well I think in Scotland one of the reasons we're a pathetic little stuffed up country holding on to the coat tails of England is because the Scots are a jealous, small minded, petty, bitchy, racist, sectarian people. NOT all of course but enough to hold us back. I really hope we can go onto the path to independence, but with all the pro unionist scumbags intent on keeping Scotland in it's proper place i.e: under the heel of England, I some times wonder. I don’t know any country that prostitute’s itself the way Scotland has done.
By the way I work for a company which has its head office in Scotland, pay my taxes to the Un-united Kingdom but live in New Zealand, which is a great place to live, I only, wish that my fellow Scots could have the vision to see what their country could be. One day we’ll have independence, but it will be after the English have bled us dry.
Another thing I have many English friends, so AM please don’t try the cheap shots with the anti English angle, I’ve heard it all before.

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Media 1,

cape town and stockbridge 09/04/2007 10:56:17

Sean wont live in A SCOTLAND that is not independent, yet he was comfortable living in A LONDON who in his SNP eyes controls Scotland...

What a class A plonker!

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MJD,

Glasgow 09/04/2007 10:58:52

I wonder what MI6 has to say about Sir Sean wanting a split from the UK. Maybe they'll send an assassin so we can get rid of his stupid ideals.

He was a crap James Bond anyway.

122

ayrshie,

ayrshie@aol.com 09/04/2007 10:59:35

What a proud man he is , the ones on here that mock him and just mouth off are the brainless "monority" who have either no pride in their country or they are advocating the systematic raping of Scotland and her people . The labour administration has done nothing except line their own pockets while a million children starve , while our elderly freeze through lack of heating and our poor get poorer in one of the richest nations in Western Europe " SCOTLAND". Our people are now taking our country back , our sense of decency back and be free of the political corruption that was rife in British politics. THERE IS NO STOPPING IT NOW AS OUR PEOPLE WILL AND SHOULD VOTE FOR SCOTLAND on May 3rd. Now is the time !!!

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Donny B,

half way there 09/04/2007 11:00:49

This is funny ,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5Hcxqou6xE&mode=relat...=

God spare us him again.

124

Torchwood,

Aberdeen 09/04/2007 11:06:36

Ay but would we want him back if he continues to advertise Suntory Japanese whisky for a huge amount of yen?

Would he be prepared to pay the taxes?

125

Alan Reid,

lyall bay 09/04/2007 11:10:53

Media 1, Sean can live wherever the hell he likes.
What a plonker second rate at that, you are.
By the way i'll going to a contract soon in Angola, but stopping off in Cape Town for a day or two, fancy a pint?

126

Doh,

09/04/2007 11:14:27

Tam will want to be coming back for the free personal care for the elderly. He can also gets his chukkies checked for free.

127

Dennis,

09/04/2007 11:15:45

129 AR

"One day we’ll have independence, but it will be after the English have bled us dry.
Another thing I have many English friends, so AM please don’t try the cheap shots with the anti English angle, I’ve heard it all before." - AR Wellington

So your English friends are bleeding you (or Scotland?) dry? "The English" note - not the British Government not Westminster but "the English".

Funny how many quasi racialist attitudes also go hand in hand with phrases such as some of my best friends are (insert racial identity). Coupled a general attack on the racial type - nationality anyway. Mikey 111 is also another example who wants to see AM leaving to join his 'own kind'

Better go back to SNP HQ and get your veneer of racial respectability renewed its starting to wear thin!

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Erse,

Middle East 09/04/2007 11:16:16

#104 Don't you mean condone?

#86 Yes I didn't leave Scotland because we didn't have independence. One of the main reasons I left was the lack of decent job opportunities in my chosen profession due to subsequent Labour and Tory governments favouring Welsh and English facilities.

In my time though I was very active in Scottish politics and have strenuously campaigned for independence. However I became disillusioned with the gradual decline in the very fabric of sociey in Scotland and frustrated by the general apathy of much of the electorate.

My family still lives in Scotland so I reckon I have as much say in Scottish politics than anyone else on this forum

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James Davies,

South Wales 09/04/2007 11:17:30

Sir Sean should fight for the advancement of the Scottish people from Scotland.
Living in the sun gone to is head. He is great actor but no politician paying no tax to the United Kingdom.
The Scottish people should vote on issues what is happening in Scotland. Like the people of Wales.

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MJD,

Glasgow 09/04/2007 11:20:09

I think Nationalists should realise that most of us Unionists actually do believe that Scotland may have the ability to go it alone. We just think we benefit more in the UK.

Instead of attacking us for being anti-Scottish, why don't you tell us how we can gain from independence? By that I mean not attacking current Labour policies such as Trident and the Iraq war, but what can independence deliver, that the union can't?

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Media 1,

cape town and stockbridge 09/04/2007 11:20:45

#135 alan reid: Cant make it, I will be in Scotland casting my vote...

I agree that old man Sean can reside wherever he likes, I was just pointing out his bizarre comments flaws..

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morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 11:31:26

This man made it clear from the very early days that payment of taxes to a government he did not recognise was against his wishes. HE has donated huge sums of money into the SNP however.This is a typical Labour numpty head jealousy of anything which does not conform to their stupidity,or does not conform to their first rule: God created the Labour Party.Everybody should praise him by contributing money to the gravy train,so that uneducated idiots can fill town halls the length and breadth of Scotland and some might even make it to Holyrood at the taxpayers expense,and be completely useless ,because for want of a more eloquent observation,half can barely read or write!Theres where the real problem lies.I am all in favour of the man in the street having a voice,but it needs to be a genuine socialist voice.Labour lost their voice a long time ago! How much are you contributing into the UK ,just as a matter of interest?

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morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 11:32:11

142 refers to 1

134

morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 11:34:51

140

If we agreed with Labour policy there would be no need for the SNP!
Are you serious?

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MJD,

Glasgow 09/04/2007 11:40:24

#144

you have completely sidelines my point. What will independence bring that the Union can't?

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morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 11:46:50

132

Rumours abound of the Labour vote ,all but collapsing in some previously impregnable areas. Ive heard these reports from a number of seats, and a few Labour activists have privately made it clear, they almost expect to be annihilated.What I don't understand is why they stay ? Get out would be the sensible move.
I dont want to be over confident,but it does look like Labour are in serious trouble here in Scotland,and completely washed away down south!
ITS DEFINITELY TIME!

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morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 11:49:38

145
You completely miss the point.
What has the Union brought that we actually wanted!
You decide upon everything ,not those bits which suit your argument!

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Doh,

09/04/2007 11:50:05

And once Scotland is a soclialist republic - he can hand back his knighthood - and keep his tax haven in the Bahamas.

139

peteedinburgh,

09/04/2007 11:50:25

Vote Labour /Lib / Conservative / Green


or your wife gets beaten up.

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Alan Reid,

lyall bay 09/04/2007 11:55:11

Dennis, Hand up mate, your totally right. And i'm sorry for the wrong choice of words. WHAT I meant was ENGLISH MP'S bleeding us dry. There that's more like it.
Reminds me of a contract I was on in Devonport doing an inspection on a nuclear sub a few years back. The lads that work down there told we how Devonport got the contract over roysth, because of a certain Tory goverment 'fixed the contract" so they could save a Tory seat. The fact that Devonport did not have the facilitys, experence, blah blah, did not come into it. But the UK tax payer has had to fork out an extra billion plus, over this corruption. Oh! and 3000 'Sweaties ' lost their jobs, but why would the ENGLISH MP's care.
I am not a racist in any way, but I think you can guess why i'm p***** off. My wife by the way is from South East Asia, so does that prove i'm not racist.
141, Media 1, I don't understand, what do you mean 'bizarre comments flaws' could you spell one out. Like I said, he just wants the best for his country, in which it's clear it's doing very badly considering it's part in the UK.

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robert SHIVAGO,

livingston 09/04/2007 11:57:11

Sir Sean for our first president of auld scotia and Tom Farmer as his second in command.The great Salmon as first minister.That is my dream and to see us going again as our own little country that we scots will make great brings tears to my eyes.Come on SCOTLAND lets get our act together and be a nation again[our own nation]WE CAN DO IT--LETS GIVE IT A TRY.

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langtonian,

scotus 09/04/2007 12:19:45

#151 Whatever you are on, tea, coffee, alchohol or drugs, do let us all know .You must come down from the clouds and face reality sooner or later-best be sooner!

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zigzag,

Tecumseh Ontario 09/04/2007 12:25:58

I have Sean the glory of
the Connery of the Lord
He is in the Bahamas where
they have the very greenest
Sod
He is golfing in his breeks
As he swings that 9 iron rod
His home is in the Sun

Dont hold your breath...How many Scots do you know who left the guid life to come home to Scotland?

Where is Craig Ferguson?
Oh those Hollywood Nights....

Even Goerge Bush who has a long pedigree of being of Scottish heritage is not tarrying forth...he prefers the middle east...now go figure.

I need a self catering cottage in Nairn in the Moray Firth for a holiday next year. Any suggestions?

Toodle Pip

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Margaux,

USA 09/04/2007 12:31:29

Sir Sean Connery:
I would return to Edinburgh or for that matter anywhere in Scotland in a heartbeat. I was taken to the USA at age seven. I have no money, I am just a hard working older woman who wants to go home, so which is why I don't care about the politics I just miss my country her people and what is left of my family. Unfortunately I can not afford Scotland now so moving home is just a dream.

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Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

09/04/2007 12:31:41

Maybe Sean will go live in Shighthill , schtranger things have happened.

On the other hand , who really cares if an Actor decides to return to Scotland.

Let's face it he wil be dead by that time and will never have to action this bizarre nonsense.

I'd rather live in the Bahamas like most of you I reckon.

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Dennis,

09/04/2007 12:31:57

150 AR

Appreciate your candour.

I think you are on the nail as far as pointing up the gerrymandering of the Tories. What a lot of Scot Nat supporters ignore is that many parts of the UK have had a raw deal at sometime or other from Westminster. In the North of England, folk there distrust the "Southerners" every bit as much as the Scots do the English.
The UK has all kinds of fault lines - some cultural, some political and some economic. 1200 years or so ago it was a group of kingdoms.

Much as we don't like the SE England (Home Counties) bias - I don't think it would help to go back to Northumbria, Mercia, Wessex, Cornwall, Angle -land (East Anglia), Scotland (Scots, Norselands) Wales (several tribal areas).
However we've progressed from fighting each other to fighting side by side - and in more peaceful times to working to build up a strong economic base and place in the wider world.

I think the problem is that Westminster persists in the first past the post system of elections. This allows a minority or tiny majority to rule the roost completely. As a great many English seats are in 'Middle England' - this gets all the attention.
If we had true representation from all political sections of the UK- then there may have been no Iraq campaign etc etc.

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 12:33:40

Lets think of the number of Scots living abroad who travel on a British passport. We pay heavily to receive little or no services from the consular services. If the money was received by Scotland allowing us the privilage of traveling under our real identity we would be more than happy to pay it to Scotland and I for one would be happy to pay an annual 20 pounds sterling for the privilage. with this in mind how much would this boost the Scots economy. Taxes could be levied on all willing Scots living abroad just to have our real identities on our travel documents. We are forced into being british our nationality is not shown in our passports and some of us are ashamed to be seen as british. The English nationals are not so well accepted as us ,NO doors are shut on the Scots tey are thrown wide open for us and the Irish

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Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

09/04/2007 12:33:59

You really are in a hell of a state if you care less what an ex James Bond Actor has to say about Independence.

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 12:38:11

My old mate Media 1, Cape Town...seems to me that there are few differences between you and Mr Connery...
Both of you like to shout your mouth off about things that don't really concern you on a day to day basis, from elsewhere in the globe - and most of us actually living full time in Scotland don't give a flying fcuk one way or another what your opinions are anyway.

You are dead right - Class A Plonkers!

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 12:39:44

Just think exiled Scots donating to there native land , What a pleasure, we could build another wall to keep our oil in and the English oot!

151

Gnasher,

09/04/2007 12:40:01

Thish is good newsh indeed.

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 12:43:23

#160 GILL Theres another gil (gill) who thinks a little different to you THE RH GIL PATTERSON EX MSP

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Mike Scotia,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 12:43:58

Is Sir Sean harbouring ideas of becoming the first president of the Republic of Scotland? If he is so against the union, why did he accept a knighthood from it?

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roon,

09/04/2007 12:47:02

#159 i entirely agree, who cares what sean connery thinks. he is a self righteous tit and only waves the scottish flag when it suits him. what has he done on the world stage to be given such media coverage. he's an actor of questionable ability not a polititian, and has been out of scotland so long his opinion on scotland is pointless. where was he during the thatcher years? it is doubtfull whether connery would even return to scotland in a box.

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lorren,

USA 09/04/2007 12:47:14

Why do many Scots hate their ExPats.

Scots need to take a lesson from their Irish cousins. All the "Irish jokes " I used to hear when i was home in Scotland need to be changed to say "A Scotsmen" instead of an Irishman. The Irish are smart people

vote SNP

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nolimits,

Canada 09/04/2007 12:50:08

#50
Because, the Forum Masters assume that posters can spell.

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TOMMY FROM BROOKLYN,

BROOKLYN NEW YORK USA 09/04/2007 12:52:47

We do not need people like "CONNERY" in Scotland
what has he ever contributed to the Scottish nation,
"NOTHING" he is a movie actor and a supporters of
the "SNP" a "JOKE" he is not even welcomed here in New York City were one of his neighbors took him to court for being a lousy loud mouth. So Sir Sean that is a joke please stay were you are.
Yours sincerely
Thomas Kelly Donnelly
Brooklyn New York USA

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I.Wright,

Glasgow 09/04/2007 12:56:04

Connery is a great personality, with plenty of charisma. He's not a great actor - there are plenty of other Scots with more acting talent than him. But because he achieved stardom on the back of a long-running Hollywood franchise of not very sophistacted but entertaining movies, he's world famous. That's fine, and to be fair to him he has put a fair amount of money into the charitable trusts he supports. But come off it, the idea that he's not a tax exile doesn't bear much scrutiny. He claims to have paid millions in UK tax, which may be true, but whether it amounts to anything like the proportion of his total income that Scottish residents have to pay is doubtful.

So, he's a successful expat Scot with charisma and good business sense who wants to be seen as more than that by dabbling in politics. That's his privilege, but why should the Scot in the street be the slightest bit interested? Do we believe that because someone has made millions in the entertainment industry he has some special authority on politics? If we do, we're too immature to deserve independence. We should be able to make up our minds without needing someone like Connery to give it his blessing. And if he really isn't a hypocrit, why does he own properties in countries where he can minimise his tax liability and none in Scotland and why does he spend so little time here?

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Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

09/04/2007 12:56:08

Lorren , I myself am an expat, but I cansee the difference between self publicity and true love of a country.

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Davie from Irvine,

Ayrshire 09/04/2007 12:56:27

To all who critiscise Sir Sean living abroad about not paying tax here. Sean has set up charities to help under privelaged youngsters in Scotland and has put millions of pounds of his own money into the charities and he is directly involved with the running of them. sean unlike some other succesfull Scots has never forgot where he comes from. keeps in touch with friends from Edinburgh and does not try and hide his Scottishness.

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Angus Lindsay,

Hong Kong 09/04/2007 12:58:08

#14. Canada
You make many sensible points. If only the shout-you-down mob could see these and understand.

I was critical of Connery over his unseemly pursuit of his (British- not Scottish-bestowed) knighthood. That seemed to me then, and remains, a character flaw reflecting the man's theatrical self-importance. But, hey, nobody is perfect.

However, it can't be denied that he has poured an enormous amount of money into the British Exchequer and into charitable media-related projects UK-wide, so he can't be accused of narrow chauvinism.

Your point, #14 Canada, "... many Home Scots who have never lived abroad would be more cautious in criticizing the vast majoroity of Scots who do or have lived abroad." is well-founded.

I get sick and tired of the sticks-and-stones brigade who, for example, hurl "human rights" abuse at me - and others - for living in China, when any perceived or actual "human rights abuses" take place far away from the mainstream of law-abiding people's everyday lives, and have nothing whatsoever to do with me or anyone there conducting their lawful business. The human rights issue is just a handy weapon to throw by people whose vision is limited and whose ignorance is skewed regarding such transgressions on their own doorstep. The mean-spirited among the stay-at-home knockers simply cannot see beyond their own narrow-mindedness. Sad but true.

#14 is so right to declare that we Scots assimilate easily into other cultures - and I add from a personal viewpoint, without interfering with my hosts' culture -but still retain our unique Scottishness, etc.

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sander,

stornoway 09/04/2007 12:59:32

he should just stay over in his little tax haven and shut the hell up. even better if scotland ever does go it alone i'm off. so how about a swap. the isle of lewis is vety similar to cayman - they are both islands, both have weather, and both have dodgy mp's. how about it fella?

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Doh,

09/04/2007 13:07:34

Well since the SNP have said you only qualify for Scottish citzenship by being resident in Scotland at the time of UDI - Sean will only
be able to visit Scotland as a tourist. A bit like the last 50 years.

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most things - if in moderation,

09/04/2007 13:12:46

get off his back... he's no perfect but he does Scotland some good in his own way... do you want the Paddies being the only "people" abroad selling their country and heritage... I'm sick of all the Irish s*** and want more people like SC promoting Scotland... after all we have more and we are better than the Irish - pictish genes more than likely

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 13:15:56

#DOH If what you say is true Ill be back the day their elected!

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Martha,

09/04/2007 13:16:38

Who cares what "Sir" Sean will or won't do? Does it matter?

For someone who wants to be independent of England, he surely showed up promptly to be knighted by the sovereign of a nation he now supposedly disavows.

What a joke.

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Martha,

09/04/2007 13:18:17

You're just jealous because the Irish had the brains and guts to promote their little country and increase their standard of living by incredible magnitudes, and you didn't. Which is why even if you become independent, you won't get anywhere because all you want to do is sit on your arse and gripe.

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 13:18:24

174 - Doh,

Once again you prove the appropriateness of your name - ONE of the ways you can qualify for Scottish citizenship is if you live here. If you are BORN in Scotland, I think that just about qualifies you!

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Doh,

09/04/2007 13:20:14

#178 Gill

What about if one parent was born in Scotland?

And to save a post one grandparent?

Seriously is that SNP policy?

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 13:21:49

167 Russell - your point is?

Apart from the fact our names are COMPLETELY different in spelling, root and pronunciation....you're exactly right!

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 13:22:02

It would seem some Scots who have never left our sunny shores ,resent the fact that others have . Believe me one does what is neccessary to live , but ther is more support for an Independent Scotland offshore than ther is at home and some would return not all , thank God or Scotland wold go undersea before England due to too many people making it sink rather than global warming

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 13:24:51

179 - Doh,

Couldn't care less what SNP policy is, frankly. The point I make is the SNP can't/won't go taking away citizenship from anyone born here, just because they are out of the country at the time of Independence.

Sounds like another good scare tactic from the Unionist nay-sayers though. Well done!

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 13:26:53

#178 Gill I THINK BIRTHRIGHT IS THE KEY TO ALL CITIZENSHIP , THAT MAKES DOH ONLY HALF RIGHT OR IS IT JUST A LITTLE BIT RIGHT?OR HAS HE SOME DARK SECRETS IN HIS CUPBOARDS?

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Doh,

09/04/2007 13:29:23

#181 Gill

It is not a scare tactic - I am interested in what the SNP policy is on the rights to Scottish citzenship - and thought you might know.

I guess you wont know if the SNP plan to allow Scottish citizens to retain dual citizenship - say with our big pals in England?

Doesn't sound very well thought out to me.

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KL1,

09/04/2007 13:38:08

MJD

Would be better if you actually explained a little re. how Scotland benefits by being part of the Union?

One frequent argument I see is that Scotland benefits from UK representation - but when and how have Scottish interests ever been paramount or even taken into account ie. before the UN, NATO, or even the EU for that matter. If Scotland benefits from being part of the Union - then why, for example, has the fishing industry been decimated? That's right, Scottish interests are expendable and b). a minor cabinet minister from England takes the lead whilst Scots sit in the antechamber looking on pretty much impotent.

Is this what is meant by equal partnership?

Meanwhile, what happens to the towns where, say, fishing used to be an industry? Clearances 21st century style.

And what about promotion of Scotland overseas? Industry, business, etc? No such thing - and when has Jack McConnell ever talked Scotland up? The Executive et al seem content to hive off all the big corporations - after all how many are still HQ'd in Scotland?

The govt down in London and the Executive in Scotland have neglected Scotland. Surprised pro-unionists are not more ashamed of the poverty seen in Scotland - kids on the street, no hope, single mums - and grandfathers, fathers and sons who have never worked.

Infrastructure's crap - can't even decide when, if, how to build a new bridge, airport, road. You need a govt with foresight - not hindsight.

But all this makes you guys proud - this is the Union dividend?

Scotland has all the ingredients to succeed - it is just the folk would appear too jealous, parochial, small-minded - and sectarian - to succeed.

And in any other part of the world local sons/daughters made good like Sir Sean would be seen as national icons, whatever their faults. Only in Scotland, best small-minded country in the world, would such a local son be disparaged.

Sir Sean, stay where you are.

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 13:38:09

Sean is proud of his birthright ,as I am,and let no one try to take that away, who among you has the right to condemn, look inside at yourself before you point fingers,who among you is going to the polls let alone support a cause that is historically right and fair.You all pontificate then dwell in you own misery ,happy to do so . WAKE UP VOT, FOR WHATEVER PARTY YOU CHOOS , BUT VOTE

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Orson Oilwells,

Gigha 09/04/2007 13:40:34

Having once had the honour to meet Sir Sean and Euan McGregor, in the Auld Alliance pub in Paris, during the 98 World Cup. I can confirm that they are both very human down to earth people who I have a lot of respect for. They are both proud Scots who are very successful, rich and could have any thing they wanted, any car they wanted, the very best of evrything, and they can live where ever they choose, and they do. And they richly deserve it all. They have risen miles above the pathetic filth that has made snide remarks about Connery on this thread. That very success attracts the sneers of you losers. Jealous petty sneering losers. Sean is a fantastic ambassador for Scotland, an international superstar who deserves all the success he has. He also pays British taxes and donates huge sums of money to Scottish charities. More than can be said for the filth that try and sneer at him, you could not lick his boots, never mind lace them. That is why you have to spend your sad pathetic lives on this forum, sniping and sneering at any thing Scottish that has the mark of success. Inventing persona's for yourselves that exist only in your twisted wee brains.
You live in cyber fantasy land and cannot wait to get to your keyboards for your next bout of sneering and snide put downs. I hope a virus comes down your computers and infects you all, blogging will be a lot healthier without you. You make me sick.

http://www.seanconnery.com/patronage/
Sean Connery believes in helping others.
He has donated to and supported literally hundreds of charities. One little known fact about Sir Sean's philanthropy is that he donated his entire salary (well over $1 million) from his Bond film Diamonds Are Forever to the Scottish International Educational Trust which he co-founded. This generous grant — like his many other gifts — has benefited the lives of thousand of ordinary Scots. While not all of

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lorren,

USA 09/04/2007 13:42:00

If it wasn't for ex-pat Scots Scotland would be a country no one had ever heard of.
My english friends all ask me, are you going home to England again this year.? Then snicker.
Of course they are trying to wind me up,
At least the Irish are smart to use their expats to promote Ireland and they HAVE Independence. what would all you people who hate enterprising people have us do ? I wish I knew. sit on the sidelines and moan and groan about our lot.

#170. I understand completely. Its time for all to get out and vote SNP. you wont get another chance like this in 300 years

Be like you all and

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jack astor,

09/04/2007 13:55:16

shir sean ish full of it. likely alwaysh will be.

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Orson Oilwells,

Gigha 09/04/2007 13:56:56

141 Media 1.

Do you fancy meeting for a pint in stockie when you get back. I would love to meet such a wind swept and intelligent well travelled person as you appear to be who has his finger on the pulse of Scottish affairs and can sum things up so accurately and who's predictions all seem to come true.
Perhaps a few others from the forum would like to meet you I'm sure they have hundreds of questions for you to answer as you are the fountain of all knowledge and valid opinion on this planet we are not worthy.
You and AM2 could host a conference to tell us where we are all going wrong and how it is all going to end in tears when we take back our independence from the robbing union.
What do you say media 1 do you fancy it are you up for it will you come out and play have you got the balls?

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Gervas,

Andorra 09/04/2007 13:57:27

He might change his mind when his accountants explain the fiscal implications of returning to a socialist country with a bloated public sector.

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Orson Oilwells,

Gigha 09/04/2007 14:00:56

186. How original you must be such a talented person. I bet you are really popular at parties. Not.
Stick to masturbating you will get into less trouble.

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 14:04:25

182 - Doh,

Seeing as you asked so nicely. I looked up the SNP's website at www.snp.org.uk

On citizenship it says...

'The automatic right of citizenship will be open by right to all those living in Scotland, all those born in Scotland, and all those with a parent born in Scotland. All others are free to apply, and dual citizenship would be an option.

The SNP believes that Scotland is not full up – Scotland’s problem is emigration, not immigration. We should therefore welcome the contribution of the new Scots who choose to make this country their home'.

Dunno about folk with one grandparent though!!! We'll have to see when the time comes, I 'spose
;-D

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 14:06:21

Sorry Doh,

That should be www.snp.org
(ie - no UK...ha ha! Freudian typo maybe)

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Heilan laddie,

Vilnius 09/04/2007 14:06:55

I would'nt slait him for being a traitor and avoiding tax. Its not just the rich that do that. Many other people choose to work abroad to avoid paying tax. Why would anyone want to pay a penny tax to Gordon Brown for sub standard education and NHS as well as being ripped off on council tax, tv licence, road tax, high fuel prices, high income tax, oh and that other tax they call NI contributions.

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 14:07:25

#GILL I PERSONNALLY THANK YOU FOR THAT HE ACTUALLY HAD ME WORRIED

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 14:16:01

Will I be a citizen of the new Scotland?
In the context of EU citizenship, the SNP has an open and inclusive approach to citizenship.
The automatic right of citizenship will be open by right to all those living in Scotland, all those born in Scotland, and all those with a parent born in Scotland. All others are free to apply, and dual citizenship would be an option.

The SNP believes that Scotland is not full up – Scotland’s problem is emigration, not immigration. We should therefore welcome the contribution of the new Scots who choose to make this country their home.

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GalacticCannibal,

09/04/2007 14:16:07

#177 Martha

Well Martha U show up in the most unexpected threads. Now you are an expert on the Irish. These pesky Irish fought the English for 7 centuries and would not give in and are still at it.
That's the difference between the Irish and the Scottish who caved in.

Here is a repeat of an Irish American Chicago bar joke;

A Really Bad Day
There was this guy at a bar, just looking at his drink. He stays like that for half of an hour.

Then, this big trouble-making truck driver steps next to him, takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down. The poor man starts crying. The truck driver says, "Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I'll buy you another drink. I just can't stand to see a man cry."

"No, it's not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I go late to my office. My boss, outrageous, fires me. When I leave the building, to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home, and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away."

"I go home, and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home, and come to this bar. And just when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison."


have a nice day
Galactic cannibal

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Doh,

09/04/2007 14:17:18

#191 Gil

Thanks for the info - just for that I'll stop slagging big Tam.

190

Who's Adam Smith?,

Fife 09/04/2007 14:19:11

Good post Gill #190

Sir Sean Connery:
You will be welcomed back to Scotland with the respect you are due, and the open arms you deserve.

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response,

Syd 09/04/2007 14:20:03

Och well said weeshooie 1, dinna listen to the negatives, ave a good day mate and kook forward to our next sunny day.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 14:22:21

#176
"Who cares what "Sir" Sean will or won't do? Does it matter?
For someone who wants to be independent of England, he surely showed up promptly to be knighted by the sovereign of a nation he now supposedly disavows.
What a joke."

Martha - Sean was knighted by the Queen of Scots, nothing to do with England.

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 14:25:07

Doh - I see that once again you are asking about citizenship in an independent Scotland in your usual negative, scaremongering manner. Since you don't accept the answer given why do you keep asking? I can only assume you are just here to stir.

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Abel Magwitch,

09/04/2007 14:25:42

The reader of all these angry and in some cases spiteful posts may be forgiven for thinking that if Scotland gets independence, it will break into factional strife with national power at stake. Scotland won't have England to blame any more. It will be Glasgow versus Edinburgh, the central belt versus the highlands, the intellectuals versus the louts, and various forms of racism and sectarianism which cannot (by law) be discussed too openly. Interesting times.

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 14:28:10

#173
sander - I wonder how many people threatening/promising to leave Scotland on independence will actually go?

And if you go, what will you say when you are asked where you came from and why you left?

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Gus Abraham,

09/04/2007 14:31:49

MJD writes: "I think Nationalists should realise that most of us Unionists actually do believe that Scotland may have the ability to go it alone. We just think we benefit more in the UK.
Instead of attacking us for being anti-Scottish, why don't you tell us how we can gain from independence?"

Fair enough, not sure where to start with this one, but have you used a train recently, or in a hospital? At a very basic level - notvery radical I know - just plain bloody common sense - I think we could get a consensus about public services that they should be publically controlled and accountable and not used to line private pockets - this applies to transport, health and education. This is something we will never now get as part of the Uk which is dominated by a strange New Labour / Middle England mixture of right wing social policy which - despite overwhelming evidence - persists with this madness.

So what would we gain from independence? Public services in line with our values and in tune with basic common sense.

Gus @ http://1820.org.uk

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lisa,

The House of Dr No 09/04/2007 14:31:57

WE DON'T WANT HIM BACK.

STAY AWAY CONNERY - YOUR SORT GIVE THE SCOTS A BAD NAME.

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 14:32:38

#199I think its's England that will fall apart. They won't be able to blame the Scots any more. They will turn on themselves. Cornwall, not really English, will break away. The north will be against south, Yorks against Lancs, racial unrest in the inner cities, sectarian breakdown in Liverpool. What will we do with all the refugees?

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Doh,

09/04/2007 14:37:46

#198 IWright

Can you read?
See my #194 post.

Erse.

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Orson Oilwells,

Gigha 09/04/2007 14:37:56

#202. lisa. YOUR SORT GIVE THE SCOTS A BAD NAME.

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Dr K G,

Middle East 09/04/2007 14:42:22

Many of us, who may not have Sean's charisma, would love to come home too! After the rigged Referendum in 1979 and with Thatcher in power, it didn't look like there would be much work in Scotland for a long time. So we left for economic reasons. It's awfully hard to get back though: you find in interviews that they're resentful you've been away, the 'panel' are all dressed in the same drab wee suits and they're obviously looking to hire somebody just like them. But the Scottish diaspora will raise our glasses to you, nevertheless, if you do the right thing in May. Free Caledonia.

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 14:42:28

#204
Yes I can read, but you've asked this question before and not accepted the answer so why should I think you're being truthful here?

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Doh,

09/04/2007 14:49:56

#207 IWright

I cant remember asking these specific questions.

As for being truthful - perhaps you need to show more trust in
your fellow countrymen.

Why do you think everyone is lying to you?

When do you think I have lied?

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Russell,

Scottish Republican in exile in South Africa 09/04/2007 14:56:52

DOH DOH THATS YOU EXTINCT

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 14:57:09

#208
Doh - You have asked this quesion before, but I will accept poor memory rather than anything
else. I don't think everyrone is lying to me, don't extrapolate from a single event.

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Gill,

Sunny West Lothian 09/04/2007 15:03:39

194 - Doh,

Don't stop slagging big Tam on my account! Personally, I think he's a sexist old tw*t.

However, I do like it when he intervenes in the Independence debate as it makes the Unionists foam at the mouth. They have no problem when erses like Midwinter/Connolly/Murray/Mercer/Souness/Hendry et al do it, as long as it is to take their side, of course!

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Doh,

09/04/2007 15:14:08

#209 IWright

Grudging apology accepted!
Ex-pats make me laugh.

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CASEY PURVIS,

west hills, calif 09/04/2007 15:16:45

I N D E P E N D E N C E
N O W
CASEY PURVIS

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Doh,

09/04/2007 15:18:03

#211 Gill

You cant stay angry about big Tam for long.

Cant say for the others you mention, but from what I have read
Midwinter is indeed an erse and clearly Labour biased.

Now that Susan Deacon is also a professor (I'm no so sure her job was advertised) - she will be able to pontificate as a neutral academic as well. Ho hum.

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 15:20:00

#213
And for the record I'm not that taken with SC, he comes across as quite boorish.

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sewjools,

in the state of flux 09/04/2007 15:22:03

What is the reason Scots are "sore afraid" of independence?? I don't understand why anyone would think it's better to not be responsible and stand on your own to feet! Go back and read #45 (great joke by the way) but substitute freedom in that glass for poison and I'm beginning to see the light. Don't moan about freedom and then not do anything about it. Hell if Scotland votes freedom, I'll pack up and move myself (and I'm american of russian decent) and I'll pay my taxes. I've loved Scotland since the 80's when I was young and foolish and made my first trip there! I keep coming back for more because I love it there.

Sometimes ya gotta get out of the forest to see the trees, friends.

As for Connery not living in Scotland yeah, your point?

Jools

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Rita,

09/04/2007 15:35:01

if Scotland got independence it would be sold to the first country to offer 50p

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IWright,

Land of Trolls 09/04/2007 15:38:37

#218
"if Scotland got independence it would be sold to the first country to offer 50p"

Rita - Rubbish! I would offer 75p.

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 15:41:19

Aweshome, shimpley enough, shimply aweshome! We have enough milkmen and Palais de Dance bouncers without talendless geriatrics.

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prophetx15,

USA 09/04/2007 15:53:55

I just don't get it... When freedom is seemingly impossible to reach for, men and women die valiantly in order to try and achieve what they say cannot be done. It's "the possible future" over the condemnation of present in those instances. But when it seems that freedom is right at the tip of your fingers it's all balking and biting and no motivation to pursue the possible future that so many bled and died for. Is it, perhaps, that we become complacent in our acceptance that we get what is due us, or is it that we become conditioned to believe that we have to have some of the ammenities that come with a life under someone else's flag? We feel that if we give up an allegiance of being part of another nation in order to become Scotland the Free we will no longer have the bloody multitudes of channels on the tele, we'll lose some of our scholastic funding, our health care system might need redone from the ground up... But I tell you, I agree with Sir Connery. There is more to Scotland than dependence on the handouts of another nation... There is more strength in her than she may even be aware... Does that mean that it'll all be flowers and cake? Not at all... Did the warriors of old believe it would be all uphill? No... But they believed that being a free nation was worth the cost. It's sad to see so many naysayers stating that they died in vain and that their dreams and hopes can never be... It's sad to see that all that so many see is this old and odd looking seed and not the tree that is starting within. Cheers to you, Sir Connery, for your faith in Scotland the Brave - Scotland the Free. May your faith, and the faith of those who have gone before, not be placed in vain in a nation afraid of embracing a dream over what she already has.

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 15:56:26

Faye @3 Pray tell how much tax or anything else material that you have ever contributed to anything whatsovever in your wretched , pathetic, insignificant life . The commonly accepted word is "parasite", something that you have in common with most of the "chip on the shoulder" posters that daily bore us. Get a life!

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emptynester,

09/04/2007 15:59:13

#212
The Bahamas are officially listed as being part of the island territories of the Caribbean.

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Tearlach MacPolk,

09/04/2007 16:01:28

It is world reknown that Scotland has ALWAYS been at war! When the Scots cannot fight someone abroad, they will turn and attack each other. Whether it is a bloody war, or a war of words, Scots have alway repressed themselves with these fatal traditions. I would at least like to see the Scots stop fighting one another.

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Eddy,

09/04/2007 16:12:49

203: "#199I think its's England that will fall apart. They won't be able to blame the Scots any more. They will turn on themselves. Cornwall, not really English, will break away. The north will be against south, Yorks against Lancs, racial unrest in the inner cities, sectarian breakdown in Liverpool. What will we do with all the refugees?"

This is one of the most ridiculous comments i have read in a long time. You dont seem to understand that England and Wales are one country, with Wales being a principality. So if for example, 70% of the people in Kent decide for some unkown reason that they want independence from the rest of England, they wouldnt, unfortunately, be able to attain it. Scotland is a seperate country and thus a totally seperate issue. England is not divided like you seem to suggest.

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 16:15:19

Up your kilt all those with your worries about your Scottishness,

I feel in your postings, your worries, in case your not sure if your Scottish and therfore entitilled to have a great big f****** chip on your shoulder.
I have got birth cetrificates father, to son, back to mid 18th century. All from the Stewarty (Most posters don't even know where the Stewarty is!. All farm labourers, ploughmen, rabbit catchers, masons, gamies, engine drivers and none that would be proud to associate with you muckers.

What will be a shame to you, like it is to most real Scotsmen, is that I don't have a chip on my shoulder.

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Pictus,

Inglewood 09/04/2007 16:21:52

#197 - To be sure, I believe Sir Sean was beknighted by the Queen of Canada. (now, if I can just get me tongue out of me damn cheek!)

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kameroon,

lanarkshire 09/04/2007 16:22:32

184-Orson oilwells-
Just read your comment and i agree with you, in Scotland among certain sections of society there seems to be resentment towards people who become successful. It appears mainly confined to the- we canny dae that section of society.It's really irritating.

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Candybar,

09/04/2007 16:23:25

Sean Connery is a wife beating mediocre actor. Who cares whether he comes back to Scotland or not. All he has are his millions and if that's what it takes to get the SNP in God help us all.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 16:31:30

#231
Maybe it was the Queen of Australia?

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09/04/2007 16:31:43
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IWright,

09/04/2007 16:34:17

#229
Eddy - Of course what I said was ridiculous, that was my point. We get posters on here regularly referring to divisions within Scotland and how the country will fall apart with internal strife. But when you apply the same approach to England suddenly it becomes ridiculous!

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robert SHIVAGO,

livingston 09/04/2007 16:35:45

#151 langtonian.I dont know what langtonian means but it seems to be a bit strange.May combine with the character who uses it.I am a proud scot,willing to fight for scotland.I dont know your nationality but you appear not to be a jock.If you are there are planes leaving our airports every day for those who want to emigrate.

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Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

The Stop Sean Connery hitting his wifeParty 09/04/2007 16:45:16

what is this Pish ? I mean really .

Does The Welshman have articles about What Catherine Zeta Jones Thinks about Welsh Independence articles ?

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walter,

09/04/2007 16:47:41

#190 Gill

On citizenship it says...

'The automatic right of citizenship will be open by right to all those living in Scotland, all those born in Scotland, and all those with a parent born in Scotland. All others are free to apply, and dual citizenship would be an option.

Strange that, when I was asking questions of the SNP on their policies with Scots serving in the military one of the questions I asked was

"Will Scots military personnel who are coming to the end of their service while serving abroad have to transfer from the British military into the Scottish military if they wish to settle in Scotland at the end of their service."

and the answer I received was

"If a person chose to remain in the UK armed forces and not to take up Scottish citizenship that would not affect their right to live in Scotland, as Scotland would remain an EU member.

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JG,

Fife 09/04/2007 16:49:58

#112 & 113 AM2
See what I mean! And if Sir Sean was so keen on living in an independent Scotland, why hasn't he come back to help those who have similar inclinations to achieve their goal? These promises are easily made - wait and see what happens!!

I also read your link - "discredited" by whom? The SNP? Alex Salmond? No surprise that they will find mud to sling at their opponents - as their opponents do with them.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 16:51:10

Stuarty purty
You're overdoing it, makes you less convincing.

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 16:52:29

# 237 A very ambigous comment. What exactly do you want to fight for Scotland about. Maybe, as much as Scotsman as you claim to be, I want to fight against stupidity.

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 16:56:31

I Wright #242.

Explain yourself. Let me relish in your intellect and communicative powers.

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Mario Antoinette aka lots of things,

The Stop Sean Connery hitting his wifeParty 09/04/2007 16:59:40

Based on some of our Parochial Scots Commentators here no-one will be allowed in or out or Scotland and somehow going to work or live abroad makes us less scottish.

Get a grip. Study Human Migrations ever since we first emerged unto the plains of Africa.

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GalacticCannibal,

M 09/04/2007 17:10:46

What's is all this Knightning about. Is it something to do with Disneyland and maybe Donald Duck?

Like Scooby Doo said "
"Once a King always a King---Once a Knight is enough".

Me thinks Connery has delusions of political grandure.. like KIng of Scotland, but he must overcome his dementia first.

Happy St Andrews day to all who enter the great hall of nights of round table.

Have a nice day

Galactic Cannibal

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Doh,

09/04/2007 17:17:02

Maybe he said he would quite bananas.

Which would be a big mistake - lots of potassium and
perfect for the 10th tee.

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Rulesbutnotrulers,

Erewhon 09/04/2007 17:20:19

Please come home Sean. Make Scotland great again.

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Russell,

09/04/2007 17:20:25

WHO SAYS WE EMERGED FROM THE PLAINS O AFRICA IM A MARTIAN

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C. Haynes,

Boise Idaho USA 09/04/2007 17:21:42

It is amusing to see no matter what country people live in they can take the time to pat themselves on the back and be disgruntled with those who do not do as they do, or as they want them to do. Glad my grandfather had the foresight to come to America from Scotland,so I could be born here. I am SURE that was his motivation, what else could it of been? LOL

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Stuarty purty,

Awha tae hell. 09/04/2007 17:30:54

Russel, South Africa,

Not a great country to make comments about Scots except that when they keeping coming in the open, they don't stop even though they are highly outnumbered from persons in deep cover. My family supplied the CSR as well as the KSB.

Must admit to Durville wood. Some great courage, there . Why do you hate Brits so much? Used to live in the Cape for about six years. Often visited Magersfontein. I knew some real SA heroes in WW2 in aircrew and on land.

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David Reilly,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 17:41:34

Does anyone really care if Sean comes back to Scotland? He's an old man whom not so very long ago was telling us it was fine to slap women around. I don't think we need him or his like in Scotland. Its a bit late to start paying your taxes here? I propose we don't let him back in.

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morris,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 17:51:57

174
The SNP have NEVER said this. They have listed numerous possible claims which would be recognised, but the essential part is, they have excluded no one.
Everybody can apply,(and most will auto qualify anyway by residence), should they so wish,and we have no intention of throwing anybody out, irrespective of whether they do, or not.
Apart from anything else, we need them to form our rugby team !
What is it with the opponents of the SNP that none of them know anything, but happily repeat claims which clearly would not have been made by the SNP! Anybody with half a brain would realise this! This is another typical Unionist mischief which they hoped somebody would be daft enough to repeat.
Honestly I give up .

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Rob me blind,

09/04/2007 17:53:44

who needs an old worn out has been does this country have to live on the past glories of people like him. Let him stay where he is he is just a puppet that Salmond pulls out to rally the troops is this a sign of the future of this country?

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Pictus,

Shining Waters 09/04/2007 17:59:00

234 - By George, I think you've got it!

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Celtic Cousin,

Wales 09/04/2007 18:06:23

At least Sean Connery promotes his homeland whenever he can. The same can't be said about a certain Welsh knighted thespian - Sir Anthony Hopkins. The Silence of the Lamb's star is certainly silent about trumpeting the delights of Wales.

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Rennie,

Upstate NY 09/04/2007 18:11:50

There is no gain without risk, profit without pain, that is what makes the prize so worthwhile. But an independent Scotland would be a worthwhile investment, and whether all wandering Scots or their descendants "came home" or not, they would put their money there foir investment and charity, they all want to preserve the history and heritage of Scotland, and would be that much prouder of an independent one. Scotland, factually real or not, means something to people around the world, not drunks in kilts or the Loch Ness monster, something real to be proud of when speaking of where our ancestors came from.

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 09/04/2007 18:26:00

I saw the latest James Bond film this weekend ... and altho' Daniel Craig is good ..... it has to be said that, in my opinion anyway....... there is still only one definitive James Bond and that is Sean Connery :)

You can't take that away from the man... and also the fact that in his youth he was *hot*.

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prophetx15,

USA 09/04/2007 18:26:54

OK... Perhaps it is jsut me, but I have a rather difficult time when people criticize other people's political affiliations, religious denominations, and the like but can't even be bothered to use punctuations in their argument against where the future is headed. (#255 fear not. You are not alone.)
I think the thing that bothers me most in this is that so many people will argue against the shortcomings of others (past mistakes, etc) and talk down on them and on people in celebrity (their shortcomings are not necessarily more than those of anyone else, but theirs are just lit up more for everyone to see), in an attempt to, I would assume, make the arguer feel a bit better about himself or herself. Aye, Scotland... If poor penmanship and incoherent thoughts are reason for promoting unification under the British flag, I'm sure that my vote (were I yet a Scottish nationalist) would be for freedom - Freedom for both Scotland and Ireland to be their own nations, free to make their own mistakes and pursue their own glories. Freedom to stand tall and proud and say "I am a patriot of my homeland, brave and free". Between the choice of rental property from a landlord and owning a home outright, I think I would always choose a home of my own.

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shon cannerry,

lanarkshire 09/04/2007 18:30:30

when i come home im going to give all my money to the poor people of edinbura all you peoples who slags me of get nowt.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 18:35:43

#244

You're as Scottish as a stick of Blackpool rock.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 18:37:12

#256
Oh I got it. I thought you'd got it, now I'm not so sure.

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Phillip,

USA 09/04/2007 18:50:37

I'd move to Scotland in a heartbeat but the idiots in control over there make it damn near impossible for a hard-working, well-off, productive member of society of Scottish-descent to do just that. If I were some half-crazed lunatic from one of the former possessions in the Middle East I'd be let in to Scotland in a flash, given a nice check for doing zero-work, and allowed to plot bombings and all sorts of terrorist acts on behalf of Al-Qaeda. Instead I'm a proud business owner who would love to move back to the land of my forefathers and bring both my money and my company with me creating jobs at the same time, so I'm told I don't qualify for immigration.

Want to create wealth in a newly independent Scotland? Pass a law after independence allowing the Scottish diaspora and their descendents the automatic right of return! Jews get that right in Isreal, so why not give the succesful children of Scots abroad that same right?

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Steve Mac,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 18:53:43

261. prophetx15, USA - Best to try and get away from the Holywood Braveheat stuff.

Are you coming home to help the struggle to glorius independnce

No!!

Didn't think so....

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prophetx15,

USA 09/04/2007 19:17:28

Steve Mac of Edinburgh... First off, you don't know much about me aside from what is posted here, so before you go getting yourself all atwitter about whether I should make the jaunt across the sea to Scotland, I have obligations in the States that would prevent me from that. That being said, it doesn't prevent me from being able to lend aid and encouragement to those who would like to see Scotland free. I am proud to be ScottIrishAmerican. I am proud of the history of each of those lands. I am proud of those who have given up so much so that I can enjoy the freedoms that I have. Aye, words don't speak nearly as strong as actions, and it's one thing to talk about giving up certain things in order to get what's truly important. I have had to make choices in my life based on what was most important to me - some good, some bad. I have chosen to stand and fight for my family despite the costs that have been weighed upon me. I have chosen to stand and hold my ground when faced with opposition by biggoted individuals who have been hurt by people who bear certain religious affiliations - to the point of having been physically assaulted and accused of being part of the cause of the troubles in their nation. (Before you get too far off track on this, it was in Ireland, and I am a Protestant Christian.)
Do I believe in Scotland? Yes. Do I believe in Ireland? Yes. Do I believe that I have to be there in order to prove that I believe in their rights to be free nations? No. Would I love to be there - absolutely - 100%. And, as to your "Hollywood Braveheart" comment - my family fought, bled and many of them died in attempt to secure freedom for Ireland and Scotland. Their blood, along with the blood of countless others, rained on and helped grow the grass that so oft' you may find yourself trampling on. I will continue to pray for Scotland and Ireland to find the strength and freedom that both deserve... I would dare ask you to search yourself

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Graham Simpson,

Vancouver and Edinburgh 09/04/2007 19:20:26

Sean Connery is only but one man. Yet he is an icon of the successful Scot and has contributed generously to Scottish charities and foundations. If he wishes to return to Scotland whether it be for only a few months of the year or otherwise, that is not only his choice... but his right. Why any of you wish to demean him (apart from envy), I cannot understand. What wrong has he done you?

I have personal memories of Sean Connery (although I think he was called 'big Tam' then), when he was a 'bouncer' at the Palais de Danse Fountainbridge(now a bingo hall). There was about 2000 kids bursting with testarone and pints out to have a good time every Friday and Saturday night and punch ups were not infrequent. A bunch of smart looking but tough young guys dressed in tuxedos bearing the title of 'Assistant Manager', but were bouncers with class... kept the peace! I well remember one night, when myself and a buddy having consumed too many pints from the Princes Bar were 'escorted' off the premises under his beady eye.

So good on you Sean...See you on May 3rd!

On the point of expats not being welcome to participate, if not vote in the forthcoming first step to Independence...I see that only the Unionists expound this bitternesss. I can understand it, even expect it, for those who are not from Scotland but wish to live there and fear the loss of 'Britishness'.
However for Scots to wish to deprive their fellow countrymen the opportunity of participating in 'Scotland finest hour'...I am much saddened.

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Graham Simpson,

Vancouver and Edinburgh 09/04/2007 19:28:00

# 165 Russell...

Russell I am very interested in your thoughts relative to expats in terms of their citizenship, voting rights and benefit to Scotland as a world wide support network. If you are interested in discussing these ideas with me I would appreciate it. I will be in Edinburgh from the 19th April to the 4th of May working for the SNP and would like to discuss this concept with them.

Meanwhile you can reach me at rgsimpson@shaw,ca

Thanks Graham.

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Borderman,

Borders 09/04/2007 19:36:13

#265

I can tell by your post you've never even tried to come here, know little about life here either, and less about the immigration laws.

"If I were some half-crazed lunatic from one of the former possessions in the Middle East I'd be let in to Scotland in a flash"

No, you wouldn't. The level of immigration from the Middle East into Britain is relatively low compared to other European countries. The number of half-crazed lunatics entering the country is even lower. (You need to get a medical check.)

" given a nice check for doing zero-work"

No, you wouldn't. That privilege is reserved for the indigenous population, or those who have settled.

"allowed to plot bombings and all sorts of terrorist acts on behalf of Al-Qaeda"

No, you wouldn't. Its against the law.

Most recent economic migrants to Britain want to earn money, and have no time for political pursuits. Most of the known Al-Qaeda bombers in Britain are second or third generation immigrants, have respectable backgrounds, have been respected in their community, and speak English with regional dialects.

But if you are well-off as you say, and really want to come here, it's pretty easy. Like in most coutntries, if you're willing to invest money in the country by depositing cash in a bank account, have no criminal record, record of mental illness, or have any serious contagious disease, you can walk right in. (Well, there is some paperwork I believe.)

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GalacticCannibal,

09/04/2007 19:40:13

Story from the Scotsman 23Feb 2005
Read it !!

Sir Sean billed as 'fat old man' and a 'Bond villain' in lawsuit
LOUISE GRAY

SIR Sean Connery is being sued by his New York neighbours in a multi-million pound lawsuit in which they describe the movie star as a "rude, foul-mouthed, fat old man" and accuse him of making their life a living hell.

Dr Burton Sultan has compared the Scots actor to a "James Bond villain" in the court action which claims builders working on the apartment where Sir Sean lives have created a deafening noise, fumes, dripping water and an infestation of rats.

The £2 million apartment on East 71st Street is owned by Sir Sean’s stepson, Stephane.

According to papers filed at New York state’s supreme court, Stephane and his wife Tania moved out of the apartment in April 2001 to allow Sir Sean and his wife, Micheline, to occupy the top two floors.

Last night the actor’s publicist described the lawsuit as "ridiculous".

The suit, filed by the law firm Engel & McCarney, describes an alleged incident when Dr Sultan’s daughter knocked on the veteran actor’s door to ask him to turn the music down.

"Connery himself answered the door in his bathrobe, unkempt and dishevelled," it claims.

"Scarcely, or in any event, no longer ‘the sexiest man alive’ portrayed in the tabloids and bearing no resemblance to the superspy who announced himself as ‘Bond - James Bond,’ Connery’s appearance and behaviour was that of a rude, foul-mouthed, fat old man," it adds in colourful and hard-hitting terms.

Dr Sultan, an ophthalmologist, accuses Sir Sean of a "terror campaign" and playing loud music at "all hours".

He even claims he and his wife were "living in perpetual fear of imminent physical harm" as Sir Sean tried to force them out of the building.

"Sean and Micheline Connery conspired to

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Jimmyczz,

East Kilbride 09/04/2007 19:51:45

You forgot to add this part of course

"SIR Sean Connery has had a £16 million court action describing him as a "neighbour from hell" thrown out by a New York judge.

Dr Burton Sultan, 71, who lives below the actor's apartment, called Connery "a rude, foul-mouthed and fat old man" in a battle over alleged "sloppy" renovation of their block."

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zigzag,

Tecumseh Ontario 09/04/2007 20:06:32

NEWS FLASH, NEWS FLASH.

GEORGE BUSH IS SCOTTISH...DO YOU WANT HIM TO COME BACK AS WELL?

I SEE "KNOW IT ALL" MARTHA IS BACK.

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sonofhamish,

edinburgh 09/04/2007 20:06:50

What a w**nker. The question is would any of us want him back? I think not.

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prophetx15,

USA 09/04/2007 20:16:25

Before you read into this what I'm not saying here, I'm not saying that there isn't any validity to the claims against Sir Connery's character. I can say nothing against nor for him in that light, as I do not know the man personally, though he did golf with a good Irish friend o' mine's father once without my friend's father knowing who this "Sean Connery fellow" was. Now, not knowing who he was or that he was famous, he was reportedly a very polite man, quite courteous and a great conversationalist. Offered to buy lunch and drinks and was just a great everyday joe. Not too bad a golfer, either.
That being said, in response to the attacks on his character (or the character of anyone in celebrity for that matter), I went out hunting one time with some friends. We went into the woods and split up. When we came together again my friends all had caught a mess of game birds, while my sack wsa still empty though I had fired off 5 arrows in the direction of where I had heard birds. We split up again and when we came together my friends had yet more game birds while I had none. I was also down another 5 arrows. It was then that I asked how they were able to hit their targets so well to which they said "Targets are easier to hit when you have your spotlight on them." What a concept, huh? When the spotlight is on, it's easier to make a target. I guess it's the same whether hunting game or people... Targets are easier to spot when they're in the spotlight. Kinda' seems crazy that people don't just fire their arrows of lawsuits in the dark at anything that rustles the brush and instead aim for the big birds that they might be able to squeeze a dime out of isn't it?

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GalacticCannibal,

09/04/2007 20:17:39

#270 Borderman

Your comments about investing in a country like Scotland to gain entry IS CORRECT.
I know everything just like Martha.

Meanwhile Borderman, read this joke (its a re-run).

Here is a repeat of an Irish American Chicago bar joke;

A Really Bad Day
There was this guy at a bar, just looking at his drink. He stays like that for half of an hour.

Then, this big trouble-making truck driver steps next to him, takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down. The poor man starts crying. The truck driver says, "Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I'll buy you another drink. I just can't stand to see a man cry."

"No, it's not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I go late to my office. My boss, outrageous, fires me. When I leave the building, to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home, and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away."

"I go home, and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home, and come to this bar. And just when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison."


have a nice day
Galactic cannibal

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Sambo,

The deep south 09/04/2007 20:26:45

To weeshooie1,
Saw a report the other day about Earl Street in yoker. It was titled "Nightmare on Earl Street" and was about the gangs who are roaming there and terrifying the residents.
Aren't you glad you're living in New South Wales.
I left Scotland years ago mainly for economic reasons, was the best move I ever made, I own property in Scotland and if you figure % Wise I probably pay more taxes of my income than Sean Connery does in Scotland.
I don't blame him for living in the sun, I do too.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 20:29:07

#274
Agreed, but this isn't the place for a confession.

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IWright,

09/04/2007 20:43:48

#279
Welcome to Earth - but that's a local name isn't it?

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Orson Oilwells,

09/04/2007 20:49:43

#271. Green with envy and eaten with jealousy, what a sad sack you are.

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Nellie,

Liverpool 09/04/2007 20:57:42

The Milkman cometh back? Shurrrley that's a good reason to back The Union!

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Julia,

dreamin o Portpatrick 09/04/2007 21:06:24

Cannibal I read your joke twice and loved both the times!
Where is ole Roddy #125?
And as for Sir Sean---well what is there about Bermuda to like?

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Alan Reid,

Wellington 09/04/2007 21:25:23

AM,
Gee, you got me there!!! But hey guess what? I said it once and i'd say it again. And the reasons being.....Iraq, Trident, Olympics, MOD contracts, $$$ for honours, New Wembley, fishing industry raped and on and on. We pay more and it's not just in the terms of money.
I remember being offshore when i heard this English guy say to his mate. 'That Scottish t#at has no right to be speaking Gaelic here, because this is a Brtiish rig!! And where were we...Brent Delta off the East of Shetland!!
Now I know i'm supposed to rise above this kind of sh#t but after years of it, it gets alittle tiresome. So after being told by alot of english people (not all) just some, that we're just a bunch of drug consuming, booseing, whingeing 'sweaties'
Well I guess it's time to relieve them of the burden.
If it costs more in tax so be it, but in the long run Scotland i'm sure will be the better for it.

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Auckland Arab,

09/04/2007 21:29:45

Clearly shaken but not stirred by all this election stuff.

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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 09/04/2007 21:47:32

Hey what's happened to Dragonhead.

Hope he did not get arrested with his soap box in Tiananmen Square !

Poor wound up little man. That's an assumption on my part "little man" he could be 7 foot tall.

Last year on a trip to Scotland I drove to Fort William and from their stayed in a Youth Hostel very close to the ben nevis Peaks.

It took my friend and i almost 12 hours to climb up and down from the BN peak.

Then after that trek we guzzeled down a bottle of Scohts between us. It was nearly as good as smoking a Hawaiian spleef.

When does it stop raining in Scotland, do people grow web feet?

Here's another joke, this one is for Sambo who sounds very up tight most of the time!!

A man bought a donkey from a preacher. The preacher told the man that this donkey had been trained in a very unique way
The only way to make the donkey go, is to say, "HALLELUJAH!"
And the only way to make the donkey stop, is to say, "AMEN!"

The man got on the animal to try out the preacher's instructions. "Hallelujah!" shouted the man. The donkey began to trot. "Amen!" shouted the man. The donkey stopped immediately.
"This is great!" said the man. With a "HALLELUJAH" he rode off and traveled for a long time through the mountains. As he headed towards a cliff, he tried to remember the word that would make the donkey stop.

"Stop," said the man. "Halt!" he cried. The donkey just kept going. "Oh, no..."
"Bible...Church!... Please! Stop!!" shouted the man. The donkey just began to trot faster.

He was getting closer and closer to the edge of the cliff.

Finally, in desperation, the man said a prayer...
"Please Lord make this donkey stop before I go off the end of this mountain, AMEN."

And the donkey came to an abrupt stop just one step from the edge of the cliff.

H

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Different Drummer,

Midwest USA 09/04/2007 21:52:55

#177 - Martha - I'm not as educated about Irish history, even though my grandmother was Scot-Irish (yeah, I know! Can you say dichotomy?) But I am curious: did the English do to the Irish what they did to the Scots?

Clearly, it's time for the Scots to be free, and #285, thanks for the chuckle.

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 09/04/2007 21:59:02

"Clearly, it's time for the Scots to be free,"


One with every packet of cereal......... 5 million to collect.

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Different Drummer,

Midwest USA 09/04/2007 22:01:59

Joanna, glad you have a hobby.

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Joanna,

Cambs, England 09/04/2007 22:03:17

289

I do a bit of cattle rustling over the border, occasionally as well.

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Sambo,

The deep south 09/04/2007 22:07:54

This one's for galacticCannibal,
Galactic was not getting any sex, so he went to a chinese doctor.
The doctor ordered him to strip naked and instructed him to "craw verry slowly across the room".
He then was instructed to turn around and "craw really really slowly across the room.
Afterwards the Chinese doctor told Galactic that he had Ed Zachary disease.
The Cannibal from Murrieta Cal. was concerned.
"What is Ed Zachary disease" he asked.
The doctor replied, "it means your face looks ed zachary like your a**.

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Different Drummer,

Midwest USA 09/04/2007 22:11:50

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Wow! Diversification is a good thing!

Hmmm. I think I spend way too much time in the office. Your life sounds a whole lot more exciting than mine.

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David Harrington,

Edinburgh 09/04/2007 22:23:42

Chaps/chapesses - have you not heard of IRC - that's the forum for meaningless chat.
Sean might be a charming man, but he seems completely hypocritical - living in a tax haven while purporting to speak with any authority on the future of Scotland. The SNP don't seem too bothered about any of this - as long as he's popular, it doesn't seem to matter to them.

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Different Drummer,

In the Corner 09/04/2007 22:29:54

Sorry #294. Now, then, I'll go home, go straight to my room, and think about what I've done! : )

But, you're right, of course. My apologies.

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John S,

09/04/2007 22:32:04

Attributed to a chap called Mikey:-

Sure, we'll make mistakes, every new nation does, but they'll be OUR mistakes made by OUR people.

Time for a change - Vote SNP on May 3rd

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Ken M,

Stenhousemuir 09/04/2007 22:34:52

Never say never again. As far as I am concerned any ex-pat is a welcome entity to Scotland.

When I came back I was wondering about what the was for going away when nobody could understand my confidence. I was from being in a sovereign country.

Try it sometime, all you doom and gloom merchants and you will lighten up. But don't try it in England. You will realise what it's like to be catered for but you will end up hating the Scots.

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robert SHIVAGO,

livingston 09/04/2007 22:45:51

#243 stuart purty.Never fought against stupidity,seems a bit stupid to me.What does the purty mean or is that a spelling mistake.

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Home again,

Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire 09/04/2007 22:47:21

I returned to Scotland two years ago after over fifty years in Canada where my family emigrated in 1953; my dad couldn't get a proper house to raise his kids, he always worked hard but could see no improvement for future promotion, and there certainly were no jobs in our area for his young daughters no matter how high were their school marks. But I couldn't resist the inner call to come back. Well, I didn't find there had been the prosperity in the North-East fishing town that would, even today, provide jobs for two smart, welleducated young women, for one thing. I met a huge number of kind and helpful people, but few with open minds, and fewer who could keep a good mood going for very long. Well, I did finally start to research the SNP and there found sincerity, courage, brains, kindness and confidence. Truly. I am so glad I came back home to Scotland; and I wish Sean Connery would do the same. A pox on all who are slamming the guy - why is it so natural to many Scots to slam rather than praise??? My theory is it is generations of tough living in poverty for the most part has put a sourness into many genes. Can't be blamed. I do love the country and my fellow Scots. Canada is a terrific place, settled in large part and brought into the modern world by numbers of Scots, but it is not 'hame', even though I raised two terrific kids there, and they are still there, still terrific. After my research, and months and months of reading and listening to BBC4 I can say that there is no question that it is time for the SNP. These remarks are from a thoughtful and reasonable woman of 66 years; I also believe myself to be intelligent.

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Myndy,

Sydney 09/04/2007 22:51:03

I don't claim to know about Scottish politics so won't comment, but I think the Scottish people should realise that every country has it 's Sean Connery's, look at Murdoch, Packer etc.
My great great grandparents on both sides of the family came from Scotland as part of the 'Assisted Immigration Scheme' in the 1850's, to give themselves a better life, and to also give Scotland a chance to develop.
I think it's time the Scots living in Scotland developed the backbones of their ancestors and instead of whinging, do something.
All countries have their expats, for whatever reason, and although these expats may never get back to their homeland, their support and pride never wavers.
Don't worry about the Seans of this world, just get on with what needs to be done to support that beautiful country you live in.

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Malachi Malagrowther,

09/04/2007 22:54:45

Sean Connery is right to say he would move back here if there were independence. His heart is in the right place, unlike some other Uncle Tom celebs who are scared to offend England with their Scottishness.

When I was out in Australia last year I heard Billy Connelly being interviewed on TV and asked: “Do you think Australia should be a republic?” His glib answer was “most people in the world think you already are.” I wish the interviewer had then said “Some would say the same about Scotland,” and to hear what he had to say. He would have been like a rabbit in the headlights.

I’m sure Sean Connery would rather pay his half million to Holyrood than to Westminster, and I’m sure it would go a lot further with a tenth of the population, no foreign wars, or nuclear upgrade adventures.

Apart from Sean Connery, many other less affluent Scots who are overseas will also want to be a part of an independent Scotland and will return to experience the heady early days. Let’s face it - Scotland’s non-independence has to be a massive reason, whether conscious of it or not, for why so many Scots have left over the years. Part of the independence dividend is that Scots around the world who felt held back by the second-class-citizen-in-your-own-country model will flock back to live here.

Scottish independence is not just about social fairness. Whatever society we build MUST include the wealthy and the elites, or it simply will not work.

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JH Ross,

Raleigh, North Carolina, USA 09/04/2007 22:59:08

My folks left a long time ago to come to the new land. Come on over. The weather is great (most of the time). We would love to have you move and come to where Scots abound.

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GalacticCannibal,

09/04/2007 23:11:09

#293 Angus:
Boy are you up tight or what.
I visited HongKong with my parents (ex Microsoft engineers who made a fortune with MS).

My inpression of Hong Kong was a crawling healthy ants nest. Army's of little yellow people swarming about and ignoring the mulitated beggars crawling on the pavements there.

Why a pompus person like you live there ,yet imply a patriotism for Scotland is 100% hypocritical.

At least I live in my own country and do not need the Hong Kong ants nests to make a living like you.

Sad, sad, but worst of all, hypocritical, just like this Dragonhead in another communist country China, who owns your ants nest.

Have a nice day

Galactic cannibal

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Sambo,

The deep south 09/04/2007 23:17:02

How are you Shooie? Aye things are changing since we were growing up.
You have done well for yourself and so have I.
I'm lucky to get back to Old Scotia each year.
I'm hoping that my country will get more say in their development, I don't like the setup in Holyrood right now, I think there are too many politicians lining their pockets.
It seems the only warriors left in Scotland nowadays are the football hooligans.

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GalacticCannibal,

09/04/2007 23:19:22

#291 Sambo

Good one sambo, typical ex military , all brawn no brains.

You call yourself a patriotic Scotsman , then why are you living in the USA , why not back in Scotland trying to help that country.

People leave their country for 2 reasons, poverty and lack of patriotism.

What was your reason.

hey man have a marginal day if you can

Galactic cannibal

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Sambo,

The deep south 09/04/2007 23:27:50

#307
Poverty, Poverty, Poverty.
Nae chance in the shipyards, Didnae want tae be on the bru awe ma life. Big world out there, wanted desperately to exploit it.
Galactic, what's your excuse for living?

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kgmckool,

Galveston,Texas 09/04/2007 23:36:00

Connery is a great American.

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The Wizard,

OZ 09/04/2007 23:37:12

#38 Weeshooie1

Well said my boy. We have been here 35 years, go back to Scotland every few years and I am sure we have a better life here than we ever could have hoped for back home.
To be a Scot and be proud of the fact does not mean you have to live there. We are also entitled to take an interest in what is happening in Scotland and have an opinion.
Even as a young boy with no interest or knowledge of politics, hearing people talk of Scotland becoming free stirred something in the blood. After all the years--too many to think about-I still think it's what would be best.
I thought 'Braveheart' was crap, the best bit was right at the end when he shouted 'Freeedooom.

Go for it Scotland.

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Faye,

Scotland 10/04/2007 00:16:58

#230 Stuarty purty. Why are you hiding behind a ridiculous pseudonym?

Maybe Heilan Jessie is more fitting?

You need to eat more haggis ma boy.

The vitrol spewed by you is just offal!

We say in Scotland "KeeptheHeed"

In America, "Chill out dude".

Join anger managment classes with Sir Sean!

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Angus Lindsay,

Hong Kong 10/04/2007 00:17:41

#305. GalacticCannibal
I'm not the one that's uptight. Far from it. You clearly have a serious psychological condition and should really be in the care of medical professionals.

So you "... visited HongKong with ... parents (ex Microsoft engineers who made a fortune with MS)." Hmm, so what? ... Are we supposed to be impressed that mummy (sorry, mommy) and daddy "made a fortune with MS"? Please spare us the patronising stuff, spoilt child ...

Your "inpression" [sic] of Hong Kong would not remotely compare with the reality. You just love to shove people's noses into the life of merde which you apparently inhabit in your pot-raddled mind.

Your puerile barb "Army's [sic] of little yellow people swarming about and ignoring the mulitated beggars crawling on the pavements there." is not only racially offensive (it's an offence in the UK, note, for which you can be prosecuted), but about as far from the truth as it is possible to be, and only serves to show everybody what an ignorant piece of human flotsam you are.

Your typically stupid diatribe "Why a pompus [sic] person like you live there, yet imply a patriotism for Scotland is 100% hypocritical." is about as senseless as can be when you know damn all about where I am - and why - at any given time.

I divide my working time between three continents: Hong Kong and mainland China just happen to be in two of those places. HK and continental China, in fact, are two places dear to me, where it has been my good fortune to associate professionally and socially with some of the nicest, most honest and industrious people I have ever known. (My dear homeland, Scotland, just happens to be one other place where I spend much of my working time - and pay my taxes - Mr Uninformed Idiot.)

As said before, I would love to see you stand before Dragonhead, whom you continue to slag off from the safety of your bunker - or myself - and repeat the c

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lorren,

USA 10/04/2007 00:19:54

Seems to me its all about "MONEY"

Is that you all care about the most. ?? Us, expats gave up our country and family because we were so disgusted with the apathy and lack of opportunity .we left, mabey to some day come back and help.

You who stayed just dont get it, and some of you never will. We love scotland much more than you will ever know we gave up our whole lives for it. We knew to leave was to make it Stronger.

You will never understand what it takes to get up and leave. You will never forgive us for leaving, . We can never make it up to you but at least let us help . you get your country back.

Please vote SNP

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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 10/04/2007 00:34:47

#308 Sambo

hey sambo man, Your question to me is illogical. Think about it , the key to it being illogical is the word "excuse".

Cheer up Sambo, no one escapes the Grim Reaper.

Galactic cannibal

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Angus Lindsay,

Hong Kong 10/04/2007 00:36:39

#311. Faye
The Stuarty purty vomit machine (#230 and before) resembles closely the American #305 GalacticCannibal. Both rail from the sidelines, to antagonise, with no apparent point in mind except to offload their own pitiful inadequacies. Both are bullies.

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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 10/04/2007 01:10:09

#312 Angus L.

Hey Angus man calm down,
you may blow a blood vessel.

In your #312 rant your wrote
"I divide my working time between three continents: Hong Kong and mainland China just happen to be in two of those places. HK and continental China, in fact, are two places dear to me, where it has been my good fortune to associate professionally and socially with some of the nicest, most honest and industrious people I have ever known.'

Hey Angus man,
The fact that two of the places dear to you, are Communist controlled states/countries. Says a lot for your support for the free world where we live.

And where people can vote and speak freely without risking their liberty / freedom.

If you love those communist countries that much , may we suggest, you join the PRC and be a communist party member. Or maybe you like the smell of young Chinese protester's blood, from the Tiananmen Square massacre 1989.

Bye the way in the USA, we have approximately 260 million white/pinkish people, 30 million black people, driving gas guzzling SUVs and trucks with V8 engines. Just a different situation from the ant heaps of Hong Kong , Beijing, Shanghi etc.

So calm down Angus man, and have a nice day .

Be aware that our F-22 Raptor is about to roll of our military production lines.
The Raptor should present a serious challenge to your fun loving communist friends. Especially your friends eyeing Tiawan.

Please tell them to "try not to steal the Raptor's high technology".
Raptor's will automatically explode when they sense unauthorized entry in enemy terrority.

So calm down Angus

Have a nice day

Galactic Cannibal .

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charles stuart,

toronto canada 10/04/2007 01:12:25

to candday ass @233 why do you hate sean connrey so much all he has ever done to scotland is give give give for the last 50 years big tam came from one of the poorest back grounds in scotland as ayoung man he had to fight his way up from the bottom ofthe heap like so many born in the 30 and 40's there was no welfare state to take care of all our needs we all had to getoff our buts and take any work we could that said he has put out a hand to help many in need not only in scotland but all over the world god bless big tam may scotland grow many more like you

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GalacticCannibal,

Murrieta , California 10/04/2007 01:24:39

#312 Angus.
just one more bit...

Like Dragonhead , why don't you trot down to Tiananmen Sq. with your soap box and see how long you last, before they drag you off .
Why would your communist friends drag you off .
Because you mentioned the V , the F , the FS words.
VOTE, FREEDOM , FREE SPEECH.

HU Jintao and his gouls are watching you.

Have a nice Day

Galactic cannibal

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lorren,

USA 10/04/2007 01:45:11

This is a chance in a lifetime in 300 years no less. , to have a voice.
i cant believe any Scot in their right mind would not go for it. We all know how disappointed you are with us who left the country .

We let you down, but we think our country let us down. too. they couldn't keep us there. It wasn't your fault . I t wasn't our fault. We wanted freedom. Dont hold it against us.

I thought that is what evey free thinking person wanted in the world. is it only the Scots that have a problem with it. ?? WHY ?

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Jimbu,

Simpson Desert 10/04/2007 02:19:01

Maybe it's the isolation but I'm finding it difficult to spot some of these trains of thought. Being a Scot isn't a matter of geography.

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albanoch,

kyoto Japan 10/04/2007 03:17:18

"Sir Sean Connery will return home if Scotland is GRANTED it's independence."
Can someone tell me who is going to "GRANT" us our independence?...Tony Blair or Gordon Brown perhaps?
Nobody is going to GRANT Scotland anything! The Scottish people will decide if they want independence it will be by the will of the people that Scotland will become independent and free again or not. Certainly not by any any kind of "official permission" from anyone. Roll on May 3rd.God Bless us all.

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Jimbu,

Simpson Desert 10/04/2007 03:28:11

Hullaw Shooie. How's yer ducks? Weather's great here. Been teemin' There's certainly been a reaction to this one the (article I mean). As my auld Dah says, "No matter where you go or how bad things get, oor Jim. Jist remember wan thing - yer fae Coa'brig." I'm going bush tae think aboot Coa'brig. Good to see you're getting some rain, Shooie, awrrabest!

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Phillip,

USA 10/04/2007 04:42:45

Regarding #270 -

The problem arises with the current UK Immigration Rules, specifically with Part 6, Paragraph 206, Subparagrah vii (http://www.ind.homeoffice.gov.uk/lawandpolicy/immigration...)

"(vii) that there is a genuine need for his investment and services in the United Kingdom"

Trying to convince them that there is a genuine need for the investment and services in Scotland is damn near impossible.

I have tried and was told to consider investing and relocating to the north of England rather than Scotland where I was not needed.

Also, it is made rather difficult when the rules are rather nonsensical. Consider Paragraph 207 regarding extensions to stay:

"207. An extension of stay in order to remain in business with a condition restricting his freedom to take employment may be granted for a period not exceeding 3 years at a time provided the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 206, 206A, 206B, 206C, 206D, 206E, 206F, 206G or 206H is met."

Followed by what you have to do to stay permanently according to Paragraph 209, Subparagraph i:

"(i) has spent a continuous period of 5 years in the United Kingdom in this capacity and is still engaged in the business in question"

How can one be given a maximum period of 3 years to stay in the country but only be able to qualify for indefinite leave to remain in the country only after a minimum period of 5 years?

So while I have more than the £200,000 to invest, I have yet to be able to prove that my business is needed in Scotland.

As for the lunatics who get in easily because they are from Commonwealth nations, I need only point to Imam Abdullah el-Faisal, who lived entirely off state benefits, while preaching jihad and terrorism from his Mosque until he was finally arrested and sent to priso

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Virgil,

Vancouver,BC 10/04/2007 05:05:59

I have always admired Mr Connery's film-acting and enjoyed most of his performance in movies, post-James Bond era, with the "Hunt for Red October" high on my list of favourites so I was delighted to learn that he and Ms Roquebrune were to be guests at a small dinner party to which my wife and I had been invited.Maritime sagas being one of my interests I had hopes that the conversation would be steered to the making of the Red October film and some of the techniques however, without divulging the happenings at an intimate dinner on a pleasant evening, or betraying my social graces, neither of us had the opportunity as we listened to my wife and others wax elequent on the division between modern and post-modern art, with us making only the occasional interjection for clarification. Art however is the great equalizer in all cultures and nationalism is the great betrayer and my ears opened wider, hoping to catch the phrase Scottish Nationalism but alas it was never forthcoming and Mr Connery did not pursue the topic. Political discussion is ruinous for the hosts and in pleasant company who needs it so I have come to wonder at which forum will I encounter Mr. Connery's passion for an independent Scotland. He is a nice man in polite company but I hold the opinion that like most nationalists he wears his heart on his sleeve. Now, will he return to Scotland if the SNP wins in the election or, will he return when Scotlands gains Independence? There is a big difference and since the first is likely to happen and the second will never take place we will not live long enough to see Mr.Connery take up residence in the land of his birth.

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Malachi Malagrowther,

10/04/2007 07:05:24

I find it incredible that so many intelligent people simply cannot visualise an independent Scotland, or the break-up of Britain.

It might not happen this year, or the next, but it is surely inevitable. I foresee many, many very surprised people when it finally happens.

I for one will not be one of them.

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Graeme M,

Australia 10/04/2007 07:13:49

I have no real idea why No 327 Ga/Cannibal is on about...Perhaps he broke his mother's heart, but certainly no one who reads his diatribe.I think he has lost the plot somewhere and is a legend in his own mind.

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The Wizard,

OZ 10/04/2007 08:28:16

Weeshooie

Did you know Scaramouche is pretty ill in hospital. Hope he gets better soon, I enjoy his posts.

Sambo

Where do you plug in your computer in the Simpson. I was in The Great Sandy Desert 18 months ago, never noticed any sockets and my extension lead was'nt long enough!!

Wiz

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The Wizard,

OZ 10/04/2007 08:46:04

Sorry Sambo,

That should have been Jimbu in the desert.

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Joe M.,

10/04/2007 09:16:21

Independence is normality.

www.scottishindependence.com

316

Jimbu,

Alice Springs 10/04/2007 09:23:48

Hey Wiz! It's all done with 'Blackfellah' mentallytelepathetic magic.

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Borderman,

Borders 10/04/2007 10:49:26

#326 Phillip, in case you're still reading.

Thanks for the response. As you probably suspect, I was calling your bluff without holding much of a hand myself. But you must admit, if you'd presented the information from your second post earlier, your case would have been more believable. (I'm trying to ween myself off believing Fox News or Scotsman headlines.)

i'm not unfamiliar with UK immigration rules. (I share a house with three overseas-born people.) I know immigration can be a pain to deal with. But I do know personally at least four non-Britsih, non-Muslim, non-Commonwealth, non-EU people who are legally settled here, excluding my immediate family. They all acquired their status for different reasons. None was investing in a business, so I'm not familiar with that aspect of the immigration law. If your business proposal was legitimate, then I sympathise with you. It seems strange to turn away good money.

As for the three unpleasant characters you mention, I may be wrong, but I don't think they got here because of Commonwealth connections. Did they not use the "religious person" avenue, which may give some kind of immunity to the mental health check? :-)

But one seriously worrying aspect of these "religious" leaders is that although they are disliked by the majority of Muslims here (according to polls), they have substantial support among the younger generation. As I said earlier, these are not immigrants but kids who were born and raised here. It's not an unusual pattern. Young people who reject the conservative moral outlook and culture of their parents' generation, and at the same time reject the wider culture around them which they see as "against them". In other places, you might expect this to lead to "normal" criminal behaviour. But fundamental religious views can produce much more horrendous outcomes, as we've seen.

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David Hood,

Edinburgh 10/04/2007 12:02:13

Sir Sean (Big Tam) returning?

Alex as First Minister?

What about Sir Sean as President and Alex as Prime Minister in an Independent Scotland?

Wow - then you will have people at the top that care more about the country than themselves ... at last.

A dream ticket? .... oh and Winnie Ewing as Foreign Affairs Minister of course!

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Scotsman in Dublin,

10/04/2007 14:33:13

Pretty poor to see all the Connery criticism. The guy moved abroad with his career and wants to return to Scotland, whats wrong with that. He has paid huge amounts in taxes to the UK treasury when he didnt have to and he spends a lot of his spare time promoting Scotland abroad. Give him a break.

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Phillip,

USA 10/04/2007 15:16:45

#327 Borderman

It is quite possible that those four got in through the Religious Persons category. I must admit that I hadn't really considered that.

As for the others, there are other avenues to enter Scotland that are MUCH EASIER than the business avenue. Unfortunately, I don't qualify for those. If you are a Doctor, Dentist, Nurse, Engineer, Academic Professor, Lawyer, or in a field specifically designated as being "in need" (such as some of the auxiliary health professions which do not require as much education as the above mentioned ones) you are eligible for much easier entry into the country. Those with MDs, PHDs, JDs and other advanced degrees are considered to be in shortage and are welcomed in quite easily. Also, some high-tech professionals are allowed easy entry as long as they can prove they have already secured employment and have an employment guarantee for the entirety of their stay. Humorously, the other category of person who can easily enter the United Kingdom and stay almost indefinitely are Nannies!?!?! Go figure.

But essentially, you have to be already slated for employment by a UK firm or family, or be ready to be dropped into the National Health System or a university to be freely admitted in. If you are interested in growing the economy you are shut out.

And don't forget, while they didn't want me to be in Scotland, I was urged to reformulate my application so that I would be setting up my business in England. They said it would be given serious consideration and probably be approved. Yet another example of the UK government's policy of England First.


 

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