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Published Date: 30 November 2007
KT TUNSTALL
Musician

Scotland has an in-built sound system that never stops thumping. Music runs deep and I like to think of all the great songs and voices that have come out of the country, and of all the music that is yet to come.

DAVID COULTHARD

Formula One racing driver

Scotland and its people will always unite in a common voice when facing any sporting challenge from other nations. Supporters will bring to any sport a passion and sportsmanship that have no relation to whether the country realistically has a chance of victory or not. We are very proud of our never-surrender history.

LESLEY MCKENNA

Champion snowboarder

Scotland is a very versatile country in many ways. From the countless number of outdoor action sports you can take part in, to the wide and varied scenery, or depth and breadth of art and design, Scotland is a jewellery box full of gems.

MUIR RUSSELL

Principal, University of Glasgow

Scotland is internationally known for the value of its education, and rightly so. Throughout the world, many Scottish graduates will gather together to toast the Scottish universities that provided them the opportunities for success.

PHIL ALEXANDER

Pianist and accordionist

I love springtime in Edinburgh. Everyone begins to unwrap. The Spanish hippies dust off their djembes as the cherry blossom comes out along Middle Meadow Walk and we prepare to greet the sun, as surprised as ever.

MARC LAMBERT

Chief executive, Scottish Book Trust

Many of the major ideas in western civilisation - in literature, economics, politics and philosophy - originated from Scotland. On St Andrew's Day, we should celebrate our defining contributions to world culture.

ALLAN WELLS

Olympic 100m gold medallist

From the scenery in the Highlands to the passion of the people...my lasting memory is of thousands lining the streets in the rain on my return from winning the Olympic gold and cheering me all the way from the airport to Meadowbank.

SANDI THOM

Musician

There are a lot of parts of Scotland still largely untouched and not ruined by industrialism. Parts of the country retain their beauty but, at the same time, the cities are brimming with culture. Edinburgh's a fantastic city, as are Glasgow and Aberdeen.

SHEENA McDONALD

Journalist and broadcaster

Scotland is first and foremost home - wherever in the world I am working.

What I treasure is the light, the space, the rain, and, above all, the unsentimental friendship of the people.

MAURICE JOHNSTON

Head coach, director of soccer, Toronto FC

We have the best golf courses in the world, and such warm people.

JOHN LOWRIE MORRISON (JOLOMO)

Artist

Standing on the edge of the green water and white sand of Traigh Bhan Beach on Iona looking across to Ben More and the Gribun Cliffs on Mull is heavenly. If Heaven isn't as good as this, I'll be a wee bit annoyed with God.

KAYE ADAMS

Journalist and broadcaster

The Scottish people. I know that sounds cheesy but you could live in the land of milk and honey where the sun shines all day and if you didn't feel comfortable with the people you were with, it would be worth absolutely nothing.

REBECCA TRAVIS

Tour manager for Franz Ferdinand and KT Tunstall

There's lots to celebrate about Scotland - stunning landscapes, vibrant cities and a thriving arts and music scene with lots of talented people having worldwide success and keeping me in a job!

DAISY CHUTE

All Angels

The fact that when I tell people I'm from Scotland their faces light up with glee. That makes me so proud to be from Scotland.

LAURA MCGHEE

Musician

Our music. From the drone of the bagpipes and Gaelic song to the Bay City Rollers and the Proclaimers - the music of Scotland is constantly evolving. But it's important to acknowledge the influence of other cultures - such as African, Asian, Latin American - on the music we make.

LIN ANDERSON

Author

I'd celebrate the writers of Scotland, especially Robert Louis Stevenson for firing my imagination with Kidnapped and Jekyll and Hyde - the two most significant books to inform my own career. We owe a debt of gratitude to Burns for our international image as a land that champions the common man.

SCOTT HASTINGS

Rugby champion

We should celebrate our magnificent food and hospitality, our whisky, and our love for our sports, festivals and outdoor pursuits. Our country is blessed with the most beautiful scenery, and as well as being a great place to live, it's a vibrant place to conduct business.

DAME EVELYN GLENNIE

Percussionist and composer

Scotland has never ceased to amaze the world with its forward vision, bold action and great education institutions. Nothing makes me more proud than to promote this wonderful land with all its richness and diversity wherever I may go.

IAIN MACPHAIL

The Porridge Men

Scotland has a wonderful, ancient and vibrant musical heritage, which ought to be celebrated because it's as alive today as it has ever been. We're lucky to have a living connection with our past, through music and dancing, which is as enjoyable and meaningful now as it was 300 years ago and more.

TOBY SHIPPEY

Salsa Celtica

People complain about the bad weather but it's the winter that I love. Scotland knows how to enjoy winter. People shelter closer together like penguins on the South Pole. There isn't a better feeling than being in a pub, enjoying a few drinks and talking the hind legs off a penguin 'till morning.

LESLIE HILLS

Director, Skyline Productions

After a searing ascent, the view from the tops of the Vignemale or the Eiger can't compete with the prospect from Sgurr Alastair of a Skye May dawn, or from Lord Berkeley's Seat on An Teallach as the night clangs down at four pm in January in Sutherland. So celebrate the beauty and the terror.

ERIC ALFONSO

Musician (timbales), Salsa Celtica

Scotland has a rich history - for example, in architecture and art - but for me the most important is the music...and the whisky. I'd like to thank all the people I've met for making my life from Cuba to Scotland a very enjoyable transition and the guys in Salsa Celtica for believing in me.

STEPHANIE REW

Artist

In the world of fine art, Scotland has always been prolific. From the colourists Fergusson and Cadell, and the realist works of Peter Howson and Alison Watt, to the new modern masters of today, there's no stopping the profusion of talent coming out of Scotland.

BRIAN RENNIE

Design director, Gant

I'm still in awe of the magnificence of the Scottish Highlands. To stand on a heather-covered hill looking down at a silver loch with a ruined castle on its banks still manages to instil an incredible sense of pride in me.

DAVE JONES

CEO Realtime Worlds

Making the effort to get to the Highlands and Islands and being reminded how crazy it is to fly halfway round the planet to visit countries that aren't half as beautiful.

ALAN McGREGOR

General manager, St Andrews Links Trust

Golf has been played at St Andrews Links for more than 600 years. We can be proud that each year thousands of golfers come from all over the world to play here on the seven public courses at the home of golf.

TESSA HARTMANN

Founder/chairman, Scottish Fashion Awards

The buzz and excitement surrounding Scotland's fashion innovators is worth celebrating as the "Cool Caledonia" nuance begins to take shape. As one walks through Paris or New York, fashionistas are likely to be wearing the work of Scots - now that's exciting!

STEVEN PURCELL

Leader of Glasgow City Council

What's great about our country is its people. These are exciting times for us all, particularly now that Glasgow will host the 2014 Commonwealth Games. The next generation of Scots will be at the heart of everything we do as we move forward.

AGNES STEVENSON

Creative director, Amethyst Media

There's a new sense of innovation and optimism in Scotland, which is making itself felt in everything from the arts to entrepreneurship. At the moment, Scotland is bubbling over with big ideas, which is fantastic.

JASON WHITE

Scotland rugby captain

Wherever you go in the world, the Scots are always well taken. I think it's the friendly nature of the Scots people, the fact that they're always prepared to have a party, and the general warmth you get from Scottish people.

RAVINDER KAUR NIJJAR

From Glasgow's Sikh community

Saints from all faiths have throughout the ages tried to connect mankind to the Divine and to each other. The celebration of St Andrew's Day should remind us that, although we may be from a different faith, culture or nationality, the most important aspect is we all belong to the one human race.

BRIAN MAULE

Chef proprietor of Chardon d'Or

St Andrew's Day is a great time to celebrate the delights of Scottish cuisine.

We produce some of the finest ingredients in the world, from smoked salmon to traditional haggis, and St Andrew's Day is the perfect time to enjoy some authentic Scottish food.

LILY WHITE

Burlesque artiste

Scotland can celebrate its incredible arts heritage - people love live entertainment and music here more than anywhere else I've travelled. Edinburgh inspired me to set up my own burlesque club, Burlescapades, and today I'll be putting the final touches to our December show.

PETE IRVINE

Author, Scotland the Best

Scotland is unquestionably one of the most beautiful and international countries in the world. I love the fact it has two great cities which are so different and so close, and that I can leave the one I live in and be in the countryside in 20 minutes and be in the Highlands in a very short time.

STUART McALPINE

Divisional director, Azzurri Communications, Scotland

We should be proud of our entrepreneurial background and use that legacy to inspire us for the economic future of our country. There is absolutely no reason why Scottish businesses cannot compete well in the global market.

HOLLY DANIEL

Manager, Moonstone International

Scotland is like a high school curriculum - it has history, geography, the arts, politics, language, sport. But mostly for me Scotland is about a feeling. The feeling I get every now and again, when I arrive back from being away or stop and look around me, and I can feel I'm somewhere special.

MICHAEL LAING

Deacon, the Incorporation of Goldsmiths of Edinburgh

A nation is defined by its art. The Silver of the Stars exhibition (at the National Museum of Scotland in January), features leading talents in film, fashion, music, literature, and silversmithing and reveals the inspirational centre of excellence that is Scotland today.

DEREK BINNIE

Director, Space Solutions, architects

Scotland should celebrate its fantastic entrepreneurial spirit and optimism. We can boast an incredible history of individuals and culture which have shaped and improved our country, and the world. At times, I think we need to recapture the optimism and confidence that made us what we are today.

TAMARA BOORSTEIN

Vice president, MWW Group, New York

I've had the good fortune to promote Scotland in the United States. I've been struck by how, as a country with just over five million people, Scotland has earned such a huge reputation as a progressive and prosperous country, leading innovation across a wide range of industries.

ANGUS BREMNER

Photographer

It's the wild places that get me. Last year I was on the Isle of Canna and from the cliffs at the west end of the island we were looking at 15 basking sharks feeding in a bay, while perched on the cliffs were a pair of sea eagles. Glorious.

BRIAN WILTON

Director, Scottish Tartans Authority

Millions wear it, churches bless it, models strut it, descendants seek it. The world's greatest national icon is tartan. This quintessential Scottish beacon unites a far-flung diaspora that celebrates its links with one of the most admired nations on earth. We should be proud of that.

IAN HOWARD

Principal, Edinburgh College of Art

Scotland has always been an ideas factory - ideas powerfully expressed in the images produced by its architects, artists and designers. From paintings to cityscapes, from Raeburn to Douglas Gordon, the fertile national imagination is nothing short of remarkable.

ROBIN MacPHERSON

Director, Screen Academy Scotland

We have cherished education as a public good, since at least the invention of printing, and over the centuries have come to view it as a right and not a privilege. Long may that continue.

PAUL WILKINSON

Emeritus professor, Centre for the Study of Terrorism and Political Violence, University of St Andrews

The splendour of the Highlands, by far the most beautiful of the remaining wildernesses in Europe. Above all, I celebrate the people for their courage, independence of spirit, inventiveness, unique sense of humour and warmth.

ALASDAIR NORTHROP

Editor, Scottish Business Insider

I'll be celebrating the infinite variety of talent in our business community ranging from the hard-working guys who run my local corner shop to people like Sir Fred Goodwin, whose drive and ambition have created a world-leading bank.

CHARAN GILL, MBE

Entrepreneur

The full extent of Scottish generosity never fails to impress me. I've been fortunate enough to have been involved in a variety of charity fundraising events over the last decade - including the annual Hottest Night of the Year, which I host - and each year we raise a new record sum for charity.

PETER HYNES

Scriptwriter

I grew to love Scotland's scenery after scouting for a location for what was to become the children's series Balamory. The show's success owed much to the locations and characters, which grew from the environments we found, and are now forever connected to Scotland's children's TV heritage.

Herman Rodrigues

Restaurateur and photographer

We should be immensely proud of our people - our resilience, our openness, our contribution to Scotland itself and to the world, our languages, our poetry and our poets, our folklore, our music and our welcoming of other communities. Scotland to the world is what its people make of it.

REV DR FINLAY A J MACDONALD

Clerk to the General Assembly

St Andrew did the introductions when some Greek visitors to Jerusalem wanted to meet Jesus. That's a good model for this Inter Faith week when we celebrate friendship across different traditions within our shared Scotland.

DAN MacDONALD

Chief executive, Macdonald Estates

St Andrew's Day 2007 celebrates a new Scotland, driven by the energy that marks the success of Scots worldwide. We can look forward to a nation that will embrace educational standards and economic policies that win not just leading-edge, specialist global competition, but also friendship.

PROFESSOR TED COWAN

Historian, University of Glasgow

The Scottish high regard for national and individual freedom, coupled with independence of mind based on sound educational principles, and the Scottish creative capacity for literature, philosophy, technology, common sense and self-deprecation.

ANDY STURGESS

Chairman of IOD Scotland

Scotland is a great place to live and work. We should celebrate its many successes and in doing so we should be ambitious for the future of the country and for those who reside here to help us realise our full economic potential.

RICHARD FINDLAY

Head of hospitality, entertainment and leisure law, Tods Murray LLP

The kilt. It is practical, versatile and cost-efficient. It displays creativity, looks smart and is a great conversation starter. It provides a sense of freedom, is sexy and sparks the imagination. It is symbolic of my heritage as a Scot. I feel proud to wear it.

FIONA HAMPTON

Director, Highland 2007

Scotland should celebrate its environment and its people - our two unique selling points. Our environment is stunning and always a talking point for locals and visitors alike. Add our people and you have an irresistible combination that has universal appeal across the globe.

RICHARD O'CONNOR

Entrepreneur

Scotland should celebrate its innate spirit of entrepreneurialism. There is a growing group of high-growth companies in Scotland which are world leaders in their areas and all contributing to the success story for Scotland.

SHEILA SZATKOWSKI

Writer, historian and imagineer

We should celebrate the great intellectual contributions of the Scots to the modern world, not just in medicine and science but in the arts and literature, too. We are all heirs to the Scottish Enlightenment.

LOUISE MARTIN, CBE

Hon secretary of the Commonwealth Games Federation

Bringing the 2014 Commonwealth Games to Glasgow has shown me just how Scotland has shaped, and is shaped by, nations across the world. St Andrew's Day allows everyone with Scottish connections to reflect on, and celebrate, our heritage and future.

LINO G ROCHA

Singer, Salsa Celtica

Scotland with its magical city of Edinburgh has been my adopted home for the past seven years and it was a revelation. I have travelled around the world a few times, experiencing some beautiful spots on the way, but Scotland's own awe-inspiring natural beauty never ceases to amaze me.

BOB DUNSMORE, OBE

Conservator, Forestry Commission Scotland

Scotland for me is music, romanticism, humour, industry and a unique and varied landscape. I love to stand still in a clearing in the ancient Caledonian forest, sunlit pines against a grey sky, knowing capercaillie, golden eagles, otters and red deer are about me.

DR FIONA BRADLEY

Director, Fruitmarket Gallery, Edinburgh

Our artists make work that speaks to audiences across the globe, changing the way people think and performing the alchemy that is at the root of all great art - making something wonderful out of something ordinary.

GORDON DRUMMOND

General manager, Harvey Nichols, Edinburgh

Scotland has a unique and innate sense of style in a truly cosmopolitan way, and designers have long used Scottish luxury fabrics in their collections. It's great to see some of the best up-and-coming young fashion designers of the future studying in the capital.

SUSAN NICOL

General manager, St Enoch Centre, Glasgow

An entrepreneurial spirit, a drive to be the best and a commitment to innovation across a range of sectors including retail, tourism, technology and financial services will ensure that Scottish business continues to make its mark in the global marketplace.

JULIE CARTNER

Mountain biker

Discovering the perfect trail in the forest, in the ultimate state of flow - you know you're at one with the world. Soaking up the clean night air as you look over the lights of Dumfries on a night ride, realising you are truly alive at that one moment in time.

JOHN WALDEN

Composer, Daft Dog Music

Space. Scotland is a big country, with a relatively small population. If you want big city, then of course you can get that. But for times when you want space and to find a spot where you can get some perspective of your own place in the great scheme of things, Scotland excels.

KAROL CHOJNOWSKI

Development manager

Every time somebody asks me about what I love most about Scotland, I say the people. I have been living here for a while, but the friendliness of Scottish people is overwhelming and never stops.

LEE-ANNE CHAPMAN

Advertising account manager

The view from York Place in Edinburgh over to Fife on a clear day - it's breathtaking. You can see it looking down Hanover Street and all along Queen Street. On a clear day, Edinburgh has the most fantastic views.

JAMES CLARK

Independent make-up stylist

I live on the west coast and I'm a big fan of the Scottish coastline. I often walk my dog on the beach, and it runs for miles, going from sand dunes to rocks, with beautiful views. It lets me think and clear my head. Nowhere else gives me that kind of feeling.

IAIN ROBERTSON

International officer, Glasgow University

The reaction of first-time visitors is almost always one of surprised delight, as if they weren't expecting Scotland to be so beautiful, cultural, diverse or friendly. Scotland is too quietly proud of itself, but we should celebrate the fact it's a pleasure to discover.

THE REV IAN Y GILMOUR

Minister, South Leith Parish Church

We've made a massive and rich impact on the wider world. It began with the new emphasis on education at the time of the Reformation in 1560, from when we perceive better organisation and more effectiveness in literature, the arts, engineering, music and medicine, which have had global significance.

CAROL MATTHEWS

Director, Matthews Marketing

Our centuries of innovation and creativity are something to get excited about because they continue to motivate us as a nation today. Scots love being ahead of the game.

ANDY MCCANDLISH

Photographer/journalist

It may sound corny, but Scotland to me is about freedom - freedom to walk, ride, run, surf, paddle or paraglide where you like. From the rugged west coast to the rolling east, there are trails and mountains with a variety few countries can match. We can explore them all in whichever way we choose.

YVONNE BAGINSKY

Documentary film-maker

Scotland for me is space - wild, ungated, unpaved, uncordoned-off, unfenced-off, empty space. In the cities and in the Scottish countryside there is still a sense of space that hasn't (yet?) been claimed, named, identified or signposted - and can still breathe.

TINA NORRIS

Photo-journalist

A crisp dawn at the top of Ben Venue in the Trossachs; sharp-beaked bonxies on the high plains of St Kilda; red-banded boulders roaring in angry waves on Sanday; a trawler net spreading on the cold blue sea off Shetland.

MICHELE MARCOUX

Artist

I've been here more than 17 years and once I got over the shock of there being no summer at all, I grew to love Scotland. Once you get through the initial reserve (about five years), it's easy to make connections and there's a kind of tough, unsentimental loyalty that I've found in my friendships here.

CHEZ TAYLOR

Composer

I challenge you to find a landscape as breathtaking and unspoilt as Scotland's, where even the buildings seem to have been born of the ground beneath them. I challenge you... but there is no other.

MARNIE ANDERSON

Production director, Republic Productions

As I work away from home a lot, and generally down south, the one aspect of travelling I love is when the car, train or plane crosses that border and takes me into Scotland. A warm comfort cushion wraps round me and I know I'm almost where I want to be. Home.

BERNHARD BARETH

Tiler, fireman and great fan of Scotland

Scotland is a rough place, hovering between water and sky. And I need this landscape with rain and sunshine, changing in some minutes. This land gives me a great recovery from daily work. And so do the people.

LILI SANDELIN

Converted Scot

The Gaelic language because it's such an integral part of Scottish identity. It has shaped our history, underlined our independent spirit and it has given us a fantastically rich culture. It is part of me, though I do not speak the language, and hearing it makes me immensely proud to live here.

TIM MARTIN

TV producer and editor

The most outstanding aspect of Scotland is confidence. It has a population of a mere five million, roughly the same as countries such as Kyrgyzstan, Eritrea and Costa Rica, yet it's the most recognisable culture in the world. A kitten-size culture that walks proudly among the global tigers.

AUSTIN LALLY

Vice-president, Procter & Gamble

I associate Scotland with passion - passion for sport, passion for music, a passion for life. I recall flying from China to Seville for the 2003 UEFA Cup final, during the SARS epidemic, and finding a knot of Asian and Australasian-based Celts in a deserted Hong Kong airport. That's passion.

GRAHAM ALLAN

Technology strategy director, Walt Disney Company

The more I've travelled the world, the more I've come to recognise how broad and deep was my Scottish education. Celebrate the value we Scots place on learning - there are precious few places in the world to match it.

MAEVE GILLIES

President, MaeVona LLC

Orkney in October: a divine ceilidh of the elements - the wind plays music, the stormy seas dance and the air tastes like whisky. High up on the Yesnaby clifftops, I take an air bath in a star shape, and laugh to feel so alive. This is my Scotland: wild and free, history and future, love and life, heart and soul.

HANS OFFRINGA

Writer and whisky expert

The strange feeling I experienced when I first came to Scotland - many, many years ago - and which is now completely familiar to me, is a kind of melancholy, a connection with the land that can only be understood and felt when you have actually been there.

GARY McGREGOR

Managing director (Japan), Lloyds TSB

There is a tiny wee uninhabited island in the Outer Hebrides called Ensay where I have spent many happy holidays. To sit atop the island in the late summer evening gazing over at Berneray and Pabbay with only the birds, sheep and a dram for company is to know true tranquillity.

DONALD C MACDONALD

Internet editor, Netherlands ministry of economic affairs

Walking through silent, dripping forests, ankle-deep in moss, emerging by roaring rivers, where three-foot salmon leap through the air and feeling a deep sense of pride because it's all so beautiful and I'm so lucky to be a part of it.

TONY FOLLOWELL

Producer, BBC Scotland

Scotland's music has never been more inspired. Whatever your taste and wherever you are in the world, chances are that among your CD collection there's a Scottish musician demanding your attention. This nation is bursting with brilliant musicians. It's never been better to own a pair of ears in Scotland!

ALI WRIGHT

A homesick Scot in Los Angeles

Its greenness. The weather in LA is great and I see a lot of blue, but unless I look up and see the top of palm tree trunks, I could go days without seeing green. I think in the future, as the rest of the world is being scorched, we'll be happy in Scotland, blanketed for days on end by a giant rain cloud.

ALASTAIR MCINTOSH

Professor, Centre for Human Ecology, University of Strathclyde

It's Scotland's sense of community that I celebrate. It's the spiritual grounding of our people and it has three pillars: community of place, community with one another, and community of the inner life that sparks the fire of creativity.

SANDY BRECHIN

Musician

I love the miserable weather of Scotland. It's so much easier to get work done without the distraction of a sunny day. Then, when you do get a sunny day, you really appreciate it. Yes, the daily gamble on the weather is far more exciting than the predictability of yet another lovely day.

JOHN MCDONALD FRAME

Freelance TV director

I have always resisted invitations to move to London because I am Scottish to my core. My country has everything I want - superb cultural achievements, wonderfully honest, straightforward people, magnificent scenery and an incredible heritage of adversity borne with pluck and fortitude.

ELAINE C SMITH

Comedian

I think there's a common cause within Scots, regardless of whether you're wealthy or poor - a sense of justice. You can see the people who have made it big and they have a great sense of where they are from and what they want to put back into life.

MARIO CONTI

Archbishop of Glasgow

Scotland, over a thousand years, was steadily built on the foundations of the Christian faith, brought by its first missionaries and nurtured by saints and scholars. That history is a proud one. Our future can know no better nor firmer foundation.

VAL McDERMID

Author

What keeps Scotland in the front of my heart is the music of the words, written and spoken. Dialects as diverse as Doric and Weegie ring in my ears, telling their stories, shaping the world inside my head. Magic and music, that's what the words are.

CATHERINE LOCKERBIE

Director, Edinburgh Book Festival

Our land is rightly world-renowned for its literature. From Burns to JK Rowling, we punch giddily above our weight. We have the world's biggest book festival, the world's first UNESCO City of Literature.

KENNY LOGAN

Rugby union footballer

Our people. Scots are renowned for their passion and their spirit and their ability to have a good time. The warmth and hospitality will overwhelm you, and once bitten by that bug, you'll be back time and time again.

FRED MacAULAY

Comedian and radio presenter

Let's celebrate Scottish people, especially those who act and sing and tell jokes. Look at the talent we've got, including Ewan McGregor, Sir Sean Connery, Robert Carlyle, James McAvoy, KT Tunstall and, of course, Billy Connolly. Brilliant.

HENRY McLEISH

Former first minister

Scotland has world-class talent and resources. We're facing the future with renewed confidence and greater self-belief. We can achieve more at home and abroad. In doing so, we must acknowledge the contribution our diaspora can make to our success.

CLAIRE MacDONALD

Cook and food writer

The best food in the world comes from Scotland, in part, at least, because Scotland is the last wilderness area in Europe; therefore the land, fresh water rivers and lochs and seawaters around the country are clean and pure.

SUSAN MORRISON

Radio presenter, Talk 107

Anything that celebrates Scotland's mighty industrial past. Am I the only person moved to tears by the Forth Bridge? I remember visiting Long Beach in California and seeing the Queen Mary. It's difficult to hug a massive liner while crying, but I did it.

RODDY WOOMBLE

Lead singer, Idlewild

I'm a keen visitor, almost resident and advocate of the Inner Hebrides, specifically the island of Coll. The white sandy bay of Crossapol, the Coll hotel bar, a pint of fresh prawns and a pint of Guinness, then a sunset over the Atlantic horizon. What's not to like?

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  • Last Updated: 29 November 2007 11:09 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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somerferg,

oz 30/11/2007 01:18:46

HERE, HERE !!

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30/11/2007 02:24:49
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Scullion,

Canada 30/11/2007 03:32:37

#3-why?
The fact that I can call the very paper that let's me post on its site a unionist rag or any other derogatory term only highlights the democracy that Scotland is and always will be-with the help of you know who and ten Irish polis.

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Helene,

Ontario, Canada 30/11/2007 04:02:31

#4 Scullion, near neighbour of mine I think - you've beaten me to the post ('scuse the pun) again! If I want to be the first Canadian to post every day I'll have to smarten up and get to work as soon as the online Scotsman appears (around 8 p.m. EST?)
From my perch here and other places around the world I have visited, I know that everything Scottish is much admired, even revered. I can never figure out why it is that Scots doubt themselves so often. There is no need.
I have but one request of the Scotsman. Get with the times and rename the the paper the Scot to acknowledge the loyalty of the many female readers.

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Tatties ower the side,

Back in Johannesburg 30/11/2007 05:49:12

#5 Helene Welcome to the posing boards.

1. Yes, I agree this nonsense boycott is farcical and I will not participate.

2. The name of the newspaper is "The Scotsman" . It is a name and does not have anything to do with whether women read it.

Reading all sorts of political indiscretions into the name of the newspaper makes you look as myopic as the Sudanese clerics who are currently punishing an innocent school teacher.

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tomi,

Fort Lauderdale, Florida 30/11/2007 07:05:12

Yes, Scotland is a great place to be from!
(Now here it would be easy to be negative and say after that "well away from!", since my personal gripes would be Scotland's weather and it's politics; but since this article is positive about Scotland, let me continue in a positive mood.)
Here in the USA I have heard some of the stories about the contribution that Scotsmen, throughout the years, have made to this country's development. The United States would not be the country that it is now if it had not been for the contributiion of the Scots who were so influencial in it's development.
And this is just one example.

Scotland has so often driven her sons and daughters to voluntary or involuntary exile, but in doing so has contributed so much so the rest of the world.

By the wonders technology, (contributed to, so much by Scots), I am able to keep contact with the old country; we can leave Scotland physically, but can never her leave entirely. (Here a few "auld Scots songs" could come to mind.)
It is great to have an informative web-sight such as this where I can keep up-to-date with events in Scotland, and also be able to add my 'two cent's worth " (Sorry I am now Americanised), (Or should that be my "two Pence worth" [I am even old enough to say my tu'ppence worth]), anyway my comments.
We, exilled Scots, often long to sing the Harry Lauder song "Sailing up the Clyde" (even if we are going to Edinburgh)
Hail Caledonia!!

7

janis,

london 30/11/2007 07:16:18

I post this morning to acknowledge & admire The Scotsman's policy of allowing us to comment before being, if necessary, censored. Freedom of speech that is.

And to wish all Scots wherever you are a jolly, happy St Andrews day,!!

8

Nick_Byrne,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 07:28:11

#3 Oh no - will I be boycotted, for boycotting the boycott?

While all those quotations were interesting - I have no doubt if you mentioned any other country and got famous residents to wax-lyrical about it - you'd get much the same.

Big deal, Scottish people like being Scottish and Scotland itself - who would have thought?

Anyway happy St Andrews, shame it's eclipsed by St. Pats.

9

conservative,

Fife 30/11/2007 07:44:33

#5 Helene
What a pitiful sould you must be. I take it you'd rather it was called the 'Scotsperson'? Grow up.

10

Nick_Byrne,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 07:53:36

#10 And maybe we get rid of history and called it Theirstory?

I've actually met some feminists who wanted to change it to herstory - clearly ignorant of the word's etymology.

11

Charles Perth Western Australia.,

charles Perth western australia. 30/11/2007 08:03:11

As a second generation Scot born in Australia. I love to visit my Dad's homeland and enjoy the friendly folk. St. Andrews Day is just what people like to make of it. I feel that I belong when I go "home". In Oz the people from Scotland are so very proud of our distant heritage. A democracy can only flourish with different points of view. Our pipe bands from all over Australia are an intergral part of our wonderful heritage.
Charles Perth Western Australia.

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Ian Grant,

London 30/11/2007 08:03:42

It being St Andrew's Day, I have had my porridge & kippers. Lunch will be Loch Fyne smoked salmon washed down with 15yo Glenfarclas. I trust all expat Scots will be celebrating today! Let us out do St Pat.

13

Steven Douglas,

Johannesburg, SA 30/11/2007 08:22:57

IMO...there is nothing seriously negative about my homeland, minor issues maybe, nothing more.

If you want to see a list of Scottish contributions to mankind's progress, here's a link:
http://www.magicdragon.com/Wallace/thingscot.html

I'm reminded of an old sying, though I don't know who to attribute it to: "Wha's like us? Damn few, an' their a' deid".

Happy St Andrew's Day to all Scottish folk...

14

Boy Wonder,

30/11/2007 08:57:20

BOY WONDER

Scotland is more than just a country, a home for its sons and daughters and ex-pats to return to. It's more than tartan and kilts and bagpipes and shortbread and haggis and whisky. It's more than its scientists and businessmen and engineers and teachers and scaffies. It's more than castles and churches and teuchters! It's more than lochs and glens and munros and wildlife.

Scotland is that undefinable feeling you get when everything feels right and warm and fuzzy and makes you want to smile so much your "heart is swelling in your breast"!

Scotland doesn't need a Christian saint to define it. Its own people do that every day. And let's be honest, the congregations are falling massively. This is no longer a "Christian country". That crutch is surplus to requirements. We're a secular nation that has grown up and we've a newfound confidence in ourselves to match our ambitions.

It's time to grasp the thistle, make today an annual holiday ... and just call it Scots Day, so our kin across the world can join in!

15

EJN,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 09:26:35

#17 Boy Wonder

"Scotland is that undefinable feeling you get when everything feels right and warm and fuzzy and makes you want to smile so much your "heart is swelling in your breast"!"

I totally agree with you. You just can't define exactly what makes us proud to be Scottish.

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Charles Linskaill,

On the Beach, with 'Babe's' at my Feet!! 30/11/2007 09:28:22

Boy Wonder, 'poetic' this morning are we ?
I Wondered where you got to,
Anyway agree with all said!!
Have a Great Day Scotland, St Andrew's or not!
Now get my, 'Bacon and Eggs' ready BW!!
I will be round, 'the noo'!!

17

Nick_Byrne,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 09:32:05

#17 "Scotland is that undefinable feeling you get when everything feels right and warm and fuzzy and makes you want to smile so much your "heart is swelling in your breast"!"

I thought that was wind?

18

Kate Barr,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 09:48:37

I just thought I would run off a message to say Hello and thank and congratulate the "powers that be " for being able to join in ! I am retired and a very new member of the computer age - Oh I can almost hear you moan - another OAP well I thought I would add my two pennyworth, until you have lived in another country (as I have done, a few times) you will never realize the beauty, friendliness and just sheer bigheartedness (if there is such a word) of this Big wee country you will have no idea how great this part of the world is. Don't get me wrong - I'm not part of the "whaurs like us brigade. I just know how lucky we are here - Norway came close mind you ! but not quite. I look forward to contributing in future - Cheers, Kate.

19

Patrick/Edinburgh,

Here and There 30/11/2007 09:50:59

Scotland also has allot to be proud of and allot to be ashamed of. My main concern is that portions of Glasgow which looks like a terrorist training camp sponsered by the welfare state. Farming the element that wants to kill innocent Scottish just doesn't make sense to me. Scotland needs to help Scotland and stop harbouring a force that wants to destroy Scotland. Or else the people will be asking St. Andrew why oh why!

20

Annlass,

Toronto,ON 30/11/2007 09:54:44

Bring over the Irish to help us Brand the name and market it worldwide and St Andrew's Day will be as well known as St Patrick's Day and let all the people from the ghettos of Glasgow and Edinburgh sing "My heart is in the Heilans" even though most of them haven't a clue where the Heilans are. The greatness of Scotland is in the ignorance of its people.

21

Boy Wonder,

30/11/2007 09:56:40

#19. I think #17 was my "Hughie Green" moment!"

#21. The girls are off to study at the Edinburgh Room this morning. No bacon and my hens need a talking to!! !'m going to go and lie down shortly. :)

22

Douglas Eckhart,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 09:56:55

To all those who moan that St Andrew never actually visited Scotland (something you can say about almost all patron saints), they are ever so slightly missing the point:

St Andrew has a HUGE cultural significance for Scotland down through the centuries and it is difficult to overestimate the importance of St Andrews to the medieval mind.

North Berwick, South and North Queensferry are all areas closely linked with the pilgrimage route up to St Andrews.

Under Constantine II it seems the seat of Christianity in the Kingdom of Scotland/Alba was moved to St Andrews and the bishop there was refered to as the Bishop of Alba from 908AD.

It is also fact that relics of St Andrew were housed there and continued to be until the reformation. You cannot overestimate the power of relics to the medieval mind either.. I'm not saying the relics are 100% likely to actually BE St St Andrew - most relics are not, as anyone who has watched Black Adder I will be aware of: 'a finger of the saint? Amazing! I thought they only came in packs of 10!',
But the point is, as far as the people were concerned: they were, and that is all that matters, from a cultural point of view.

As one example of St Andrew's importance, the saltire of St Andrew also featured on the coat of arms of the 'Guardians of Scotland', who looked after the kingdom of Scotland in absense of a king, William Wallace being one of the most famous Guardians of course.

Please don't drag this into a sectarian argument about catholicism either.. St Andrews is bound up with our cultural identity and has been down through the centuries, that is the simple fact of the matter.

Happy St Andrews Day!

23

Jollybeggar,

Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland 30/11/2007 10:05:55

I enjoyed reading what folk thought was important about being a Scot. Tonight (Friday) the ever-so-jolly beggars of Barrmill will hold their 63rd Annual St Andrew's Dinner in Beith Bowling Club and we will have a great night of fun and fellowship with fine speakers, readers, singers, fiddler and flautist. Such events make one very proud to be Scots, not in the mean-spirited way which denies our pride in our 'Britishness,' but accepts that we are very proud to be uniuqely Scottish within the union.

24

Nick_Byrne,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 10:08:33

#28 the two are possibly linked.

25

Jollybeggar,

Beith, Ayrshire, Scotland 30/11/2007 10:08:39

I enjoyed reading what folk thought was important about being a Scot. Tonight (Friday) the ever-so-jolly beggars of Barrmill will hold their 63rd Annual St Andrew's Dinner in Beith Bowling Club and we will have a great night of fun and fellowship with fine speakers, readers, singers, fiddler and flautist. Such events make one very proud to be Scots, not in the mean-spirited way which denies our pride in our 'Britishness,' but accepts that we are very proud to be uniquely Scottish within the union.

26

Lock,

30/11/2007 10:29:55

#24,

What portions of Glasgow would these be? I'd love to go and look. Or could this be yet another thinly veiled pop at Glasgow from our cousins on the East coast?

27

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 30/11/2007 10:34:40

I agree with Charles Linskaill and others that Boy Wonder was particularly eloquent this morning.

As for that irritating poster who thought The Scotsman was a "sexist" name, go shriek your politically correct idiocies somewhere else. Such thoughts are surplus to present needs.

It is a name that has been around a long time and will prevail when you have irritated yourself and anybody who knows you into oblivion.

Celebrate the fact that nearly anybody - short of obscene or lunatic posters - can voice their opinion and have a calm (hopefully) discussion on matters Scottish, national, and international.

HAPPY ST. ANDREW'S DAY FROM CANADA TO ALL PROUD SCOTS!

28

Country lad, oo aarh!,

An t-Eilean Sgitheanach 30/11/2007 10:47:23

Well, I'm an Englishman (and learning Gaelic) and I'll be flying the Saltire in honour of our patron saint.

I wish you all a Happy St, Andrew's Day. Slàinte mhath!

29

Thistledhu,

Fife 30/11/2007 11:13:19

Whenever i drive back from england the great feeling of crossing the border i often look about and see other drivers smile many hooting there horns.

it tell s you there is despite the countrys faults a great sense of pride and belonging lets not get political and enjoy the day.

30

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d.j.,

30/11/2007 11:19:04

It is of course good to celebrate St. Andrews Day but anyone with a knowledge of history will know that St Andrew was introduced to Scotland to bolster the Inglis language in Scotland instead of Gaelic.

32

Sassenach Observer,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 11:37:51

Bah humbug!
Whatever happened to St Columba ? I shall, of course, be celebrating St Edmunds Day (whenever that happens to be) by sitting down to a traditional English meal of boiled offal and root vegetables if anyone cares to join me.

33

Douglas Eckhart,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 11:40:54

35 and 37

and I say again... you've kind of missed the point oh ye of narrow brains.

34

d.j.,

30/11/2007 11:50:38

After the Synod of Whitby it became clear that the Celtic Church and St. Columba in particular had to be marginalised. It was then that St. Andrew filled the needs of those who saw the church in Rome as being above both St Columba and the Celtic Church.

Later on it became more than convenient for the new order with the assistance of St. Margaret to introduce both Inglis into her Court and at the same time raise the status of St. Andrew who had never been in Scotland in order to downgrade and in time replace St Columba with St Andrew.

35

English Bob,

30/11/2007 13:03:20

Have a nice day!

36

Brigadoonlass,

Montreal,Canada 30/11/2007 13:04:49

First of all I want to wish all "Happy Saint Andrews "
I have enjoyed reading what people Scots and non Scots far and wide think of Scotland and its people and even it's newspaper.

# 5 Helene you have too much time on your hands

#24 Well what can I say????You are the kind of person who gives the rest of us a bad name.

37

wattie>x 1,

30/11/2007 13:14:58

From a very early age and being born in Ayrshire; the love and admiration of my native country has never waned. Now approaching my middle eighties and having travelled wide and far in my lifetime and met many domiciled Scots on the way; reinforced that love. We Scots are unique in the sense, no matter where we find ourselves, most of us never forfeit our native dialect and our highly valued and respected culture much of which has been copied and admired globally over the centuries; by so many other nations. Never, at any time in my fortunate long life, have I ever regarded myself anything other than Scottish; born a Scot in my Ayrshire which has over the centuries produced so many world famous radicals; I know I shall die a proud Scot but hope to live a wee bit longer to witness the restoration of my nation's dignity and its Independence which were treachorously removed from our people three centuries ago.

38

Sassenach Observer,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 13:50:25

#47 ... whilst I shall continue to regard it as somewhere to the north of Northumberland which tries very hard to be different but at the end of the day is pretty much the same as England.

39

H Scott,

Tranent 30/11/2007 13:50:57

#37
"St Andrew was not Scottish.
He never even came to Scotland.
In fact he probably never even heard of Scotland."

And yet we celebrate him. We adoted him, he did not force himself on us. This is one of the ways to be Scottish - not to look at the colour of someone's skin, not to judge by the etymology of someone's name, not to judge by someone's religion, not to examine someone's ancestry to find 'impurity' - this is our greatest virtue when we exercise it - and our worst vice, a true betrayal of this nation, when we don't.

Happy St. Andrew's Day

40

Joanna,

Cambs, England 30/11/2007 13:53:03

Happy St Andrew's Day :)

Hope you all got a day off.

Just wanted to agree with Janis at post 8, the Scotsman is one of the very few media sites which allows comments to go straight onto the board without being monitored first.

41

Sassenach Observer,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 14:49:53

Happy St Eligius Day for tomorrow everybody.

I'm giving most of you the day off - unless you normally work on a Saturday in which case you can take St Chromatius Day on Sunday as your holiday - but if you normally work Sundays as well, I'm afraid that's just tough.

42

David Ban,

Pining in Spain! 30/11/2007 15:12:32

Funny the comments of Sassenach Observer- does he get out of Edinburgh? I find England and Scotland poles apart in many aspects of culture, language and temperament apart from the geographical differences.
Comparisons are odious so I take what each country has to offer and appreciate both of them.

43

MichScot,

USA 30/11/2007 15:22:18

#17

i loved the first half of your post, but...

You must think about your entire heritage and please do not disenfranchise the Christians there.

44

MichScot,

USA 30/11/2007 15:25:56

#37
With all those dark hours, it should be more a reason to celebrate. Enjoy it! Wish I were there!

Happy St. Andrew's Day!

45

MichScot,

USA 30/11/2007 15:28:23

#35

Then you'd better stop celebrating Christmas and Easter and go back to your pagan traditions, as well.

46

MichScot,

USA 30/11/2007 15:35:01

You canny Scots can come up with a great marketing scheme on your own--IF you want to --but the Irish would help you do it if you prefer to let them. You really need to make yourselves better known.

47

wattie>x 1,

30/11/2007 15:35:56

48# Sorry my friend, the Scotland I was born in shortly after the First World War in Ayrshire, like England; were two distinct countries with completely different type cultures and own language known as Scots. Few Scots and ordinary English citizens very rarely ever travelled outside their own home towns then, never mind their countries. The mass exodus of Scots to other countries was the result off the Highland clearance and later, mass unemployment.
It was only during the First World War there was any significant movement off population, mainly adult males who were conscripted into the forces as they had stopped volunteering for what had become a mass slaughter of young men on the Western Front.
It was a rare event in them days even to meet an English man in Scotland; it was just as rare as seeing a black face then. The main influx of people into Scotland took place mainly with the Irish during the 19th century due to the potato famine and when building the rail systems from the south of your country up into the north.
So you are completely wrong in your assessment saying there was very little difference when leaving Northumberland and Westmoreland. The greatest movement by people off both countries actually took place during the Second World War with the introduction of conscription, I believe during 1938. or early 1939.
That was the first time in my life-time, like millions more, to leave home at the age of eighteen to become " a defender of freedom and democracy".

48

Sassenach Observer,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 16:09:53

#59 and now they aren't that different really. What you are describing is not really any different to any part of the UK at that time. People didn't travel far - now they do. TV and radio mean that we have a far wider perception of what goes on outside our own little communities. Scots as a language is a just a variant of English and many words claimed as "Scots" exist as identical or similar words in the north of England. In my own lifetime I have experienced moving from one part of England to another and not being able to understand the language - these days the only time it is likely to happen in the UK is talking to very old people or to those who make a point of speaking a non-english language. For the rest of us, it makes little difference whether Tesco happens to be in Wick or Truro.

49

NYScott,

Upstate NY 30/11/2007 16:24:21

Wearing, and quite proudly, my "Scotland" wool hat! I let the uniformed know that it's St. Andrews week. To all the folks back in the Home Land the best and also towards the upcoming holidays!
Bob Bell

50

MandyMac,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 16:25:33

I don't celebrate St Andrew's Day, that does not mean I have no pride in my country. I am fed up being told by Government I should celebrate this winter festival beginning today, I just think it's preposterous. Its a marketing ploy. They the SNP have Saltires made in Taiwan to send out to schools and uni's because of price, don't talk to me about pride...

51

H Scott,

Tranent 30/11/2007 16:33:25

#60
Scotland CAN seem very much like England, but largely because of Anglicisation and an Englishness branded as Britishness. The BBC are the best and most powerful example. A thoroughly English institution with branches in the rest of the UK. Scotland's national culture is very different from England's - language (and Scots is not a variant of English), literature, law, education, religion and so many other ways. It is easy to live in Scotland and have your views, however - you can watch English television, send your children to schools that will follow the English exam system, buy and read English newspapers and magazines, etc.

52

The Sprucer,

30/11/2007 16:37:56

#63

Bah humbug!

#65

Yesterday's Herald had a very interesting letter (and not before time) from Alan Riach, Glasgow Uni Prof and Head of ASLS. He was writing in response to the SQA's more than sensible decision to solidify Scottish History into the school curriculum. His point was that Scottish Literature should be done likewise. I totally agree.

53

david sneck,

england 30/11/2007 16:55:04

Cannot help but feel a little sorry for Sassenach Observer,but he is very much a product of his own country.

54

A.Mackenzie.,

USA 30/11/2007 17:02:46

St Andrew never did get to Caledonia. Our National Day should be June 24.

55

Kaytoc,

Maryland 30/11/2007 17:53:57

Greetings and Cheers!

I smuggled a wee bit of Scotland home in a tin a few weeks ago so I could celebrate with you in spirit tonight.(I didn't forget the bottle!)

I hope the rest of your holiday season is safe and happy.........................................

56

Joak,

YOU NAME IT 30/11/2007 18:01:12

Quite simply put.... it is SCOTLAND FOREVERRRRR !

57

Celtic Critter,

USA 30/11/2007 18:15:50

You go, MichScot (#55-57)!

God bless all Scots in the "motherland" and "across the pond" as myself (Scots-Irish-English) and fiancé Thomas (Scots-German) who are Christians!

Be ye glad of our heritage and its amazing contributions yesterday, today, tomorrow and stop all the whining! Tho I've enjoyed today's crossfire (smile) and would love to chat a wee bit more, snowstorm this weekend means gotta split extra firewood while still daylight today.

Happy St. Andrew's Day from "across the pond" just outside Jim Thorpe (aka Mauch Chunk) in NE Pennsylvania, USA! C-ya!

58

PictiScot,

Glasgow 30/11/2007 19:53:24

No 60 - For your information a Scot isn't just someone who happens to own a letter box "up there" as you might say. As currently and historically constituted the Scots have evolved a unique cultural fabric based on essentially Celtic societal/social foundations with manifestations as diverse as kinship-based social groupings, land tenure and management, house building techniques and of course, crucially, the unique linguistic, literary, mythological and musical configurations which migration has influenced but not irreversibly altered. Scotland is a nation for these very reasons; an ethnic group with a territorial, institutional and historical as opposed to only mythological consciousness.

59

WL,

livingston 30/11/2007 20:00:35

#65
Never understood why Scottish people would want to buy an English newspaper or magazine. Same as why English people would want to buy a Scottish newspaper or magazine.

60

H Scott,

Tranent 30/11/2007 21:26:07

#74
WL - I wasn't judging - just trying to point out that in the current set-up you can live in Scotland without quite being here.

61

Porty School Merge,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 22:03:36

Maybe the Scottish Government should have a look at what the Edinburgh council are trying to do by building on all of the available green space for short term fiscal gain

http://www.portygreenkeepers.org.uk/

They are our common good assets that are being disposed of fast, and will never be replaced.

thousands of people protesting and not one bit of help from the Government so far.

www.eh8.org.uk/

62

Porty School Merge,

Edinburgh 30/11/2007 22:04:34

The merge of Catsle Brae High and Portobello High school is not too far off and it bye bye to the obly available green space

63

Yok Finney,

Ross-shire 01/12/2007 03:02:37

The workings of Universe and the deeds of St Andrew, Andrew Moray, Andrew Fletcher, Andre Ampère flicker across our Saltire.

64

Galalean,

Mission, BC. Canada 01/12/2007 08:43:43

First, my grandfather's name was Coulthard, & he was from Carlisle.
Not looking for money, just wondered if there was a connection. I've been in Canada for many years. Still love Scotland. Bless you all, Jimmy

65

Kate Barr,

Glasgow 01/12/2007 09:13:05

I have just read the previous comments re this subject - to hold such opposing views, it's amazing ! Wattie, yer a man after me own heart (which is Scottish through and through) ,that was #59 and blow me! the one directly after it holds a completely different view #60 English Sassenach ? well for someone to hold the opinion that you seem to ( that typical arrogant English attitude which is held be many of the older people, mainly men, funnily enough, that someone who is Scottish could not be inherently different from someone in the regions of England), is totally crazy. We have a proud past and anyone knows that what happens in your past has to affect your whole future. The thing is and what you fail to grasp is that Scotland is not a Region of England but was a country ! is never and never shall be a region and God willing will certainly be a country again. We are welcoming people, and are understanding of other peoples ideas and views, but don't try to tell us that we are part of you and we will not have the cheek or temerity to do that to you. I would still give you a cuppa if you were in need though 'cos I could never turn away someone in need. Cheers Kate...

66

C U Jimmy,

Ayrshire 01/12/2007 09:57:42

Disappointed that more was not made of St Andrews day, very little was mentioned in the days running up, and on the day.

67

Kate Barr,

Glasgow 01/12/2007 10:08:07

By the way, English Sassenach, you are incorrect about our language and if you had travelled even further north you would know that there is a lot of our language which stems from Norwegian - ne' r cast a cloot til Mai be oot ! is just a small example of something said in Norwegian by a good friend years ago . She had gone to live there from Scotland has since married and raised her family, in truth you see, we are more like Norway in many ways than England, and Oh my goodness, they have only 5 million people in their country and are doing very nicely thank you. They are a very patriotic country - possibly because they lived under the jurisdiction of another country. (I know the feeling).. You can bet your boots that we will celebrate every year like them when we do gain our Independence and believe me there is no-one who can celebrate better.. Kate .

68

Aiken Head,

01/12/2007 12:20:20

St Andrew never aware of Scotland's existence? As he is a character in a religio-politically motivated piece of fiction (unless anybody has the slightest evidence that this is not the case) it should be fairly easy to check that.

We are still celebrating what the Christians call "pagan traditions". Christianity is a temporary infection in Europe and is now, like all previous ones, on its way out and will not be missed. It hijacked existing festivals as everybody knows.

I am undecided about the cultural value of such temporary influences. Obviously, culture changes and evolves constantly.

69

Alex R,

Connecticut USA 01/12/2007 14:51:05

Dear sassenach observer -
If I can make a suggestion - I would end your debate with wattie as soon as you can - the mans running circles round you ( like Eddie Gray did to Terry Cooper in the 70s)

70

Alex R,

Connecticut USA 01/12/2007 15:01:10

Since Ive been over here in the States for over 20 years now , Ive had the chance to take my weans back to Scotland , this is their favourite memories of Dads home

My daughter - strawberry tarts , a piece and sausage,
getting a campari and soda in a pub ( I orderred a Shirley Temple for her , and since the barman couldnt find any grenadine , he used campari because its the same colour - PS she was 6 at the time)
The Jackie, and the ice cream man coming round at 10:30

My son - the local sweetie shop , because you can walk round to it , without taking the car
taking the bus into town with his Gran - the Beano,
the absolutely stupid jokes which everybody tells,
family sing - songs

71

wattie>x 1,

01/12/2007 15:54:33

60# My late mother's family originated from Mauchline where Rabbie Burns frequented quite regularly to meet his pals in the "Poosie Nancy pub" which is still used by many exiled Scots from World Wide when visting their native nation; and I am sure they would take exception to your naive remarks about the language comparison with our Northern English neighbours.
Her family used a form of language I am sure in no way you would have ever interpreted and would have been regarded as totally alien too English (which is a bastard form) language users.
My grandfather and his brothers and sisters were born on this station as his father actually lived there being among the very first to be employed on it, when it first opened in the mid -1850s and my uncles and aunts I can assure you; used Scots when they communicated.
As a matter of interest, Jean Armour, Burns 's wife is buried in Mauchline.

72

cramond1,

Patras 01/12/2008 13:56:08
Congratulations and cheers to Edinburgh and Scotland. How wonderful that Saint Andrew's Day is being celebrated. I hope the children enjoyed it especially.

Near Patras, Andrew's birthplace, is a fantastic bridge--the Rio-Antirio--across the western Gulf of Corinth. I wonder if Scotland can grasp the thistle and build ONE rail-road-lightrail bridge like it to replace both the Forth bridges at the ideal crossing point.

 

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