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Call for smokers to pay £10 for permit



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Published Date: 17 February 2008
FORCING smokers to apply for a £10 permit to buy cigarettes could help people to quit, a Westminster health adviser has said.
Professor Julian Le Grand, chairman of Health England, said more people might stop smoking if they had to "opt in" by applying for an annual permit and paying a £10 fee.

"Seventy per cent of smokers actually want to stop smoking. So if you just ma
ke it that little bit more difficult for them to actually restart, or even to start in the first place, yes I think it will make a big difference," he told BBC Radio 5 Live.

He said that some people would be deterred from smoking if they had to make the effort to fill in a complicated form, get a photograph taken and pay a charge.

"It's a little bit of a problem to actually do it, so you have got to make a conscious decision every year to opt in to being a smoker," he added.

The proposal is one of Health England's suggestions for preventing illness sent to health minister Lord Darzi.

Simon Clark, of smokers' rights group Forest, said the smoking permit proposal was outrageous.

"We are becoming not just a nanny state but a bully state," he said.

"Smokers already face record levels of taxation and this would be another financial hit on them. Tobacco is a perfectly legal product.

"There are a whole host of things out there that are potentially dangerous. If smokers are targeted in this way, it's a very short step to slapping a similar charge on anyone who wants to buy alcohol or any other product ministers don't approve of."

A Department of Health spokeswoman told reporters there will be a consultation later this year on the next steps for tobacco control.

Health England is currently developing a 10-year plan which is due to be published in March 2009.



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  • Last Updated: 16 February 2008 11:07 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Tobacco
 
1

Douglas,

Bathgate 17/02/2008 00:19:41
Professor Julian Le Grand and his proposals are clearly a leak from a pilot script for a new sitcom along the lines of Yes Minister.
No academic looking to be taken seriously by the public would propose such a draconian measure to limit the consumption of a legal substance by tax paying adults.
2

TheTerminator,

17/02/2008 00:21:27
Get rid of these lunatic so-called " experts" and save the taxpayer money. THE ANTI-SMOKERS HAVE ALL GONE MAD.
3

truthsleuth,

I am a motorist. 17/02/2008 00:21:30
Whilst I agree with the priciple of banning smoking altogether there seems a little bit of dual standards.
Probably the most significant damage to health is caused by the motor car and road transport when road death injuries and deaths due to atmospheric pollution plus the damage inflicted by the massive reduction in physical exercise leading to obesity etc etc.

If this extra 'tax' on smokers had been applied to the motoring fraternity you would have heard squeals of 'we are already overtaxed moan moan whinge whinge.
4

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 00:57:46
First the smoking ban now this!!!

Well I can tell you what to do with you permit!!

STICK IT WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE!!!!
5

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 01:01:44
Scotsman News! Why did you eliminate the original thread on this exact same headline in your paper.?
Its the same paper and readership you know!

Readers..same thread that has apparently changed,
Copy and Paste!
Its good reading!
6

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 01:05:16
http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/health/Plans-to-make-UK39s-smokers.3785390.jp
7

the_figures_are _fudged,

Galashiels 17/02/2008 01:28:20
Oh yeah a permit , not just any permit but a complicated form as well.

Has the Gov produced one single form or permit that WASN' T complicated?

Maybe we could call and order our tobacco prescriptions from a call centre in Asia somewhere too ?

And to think someone pays for this guy to come up with this nonsense.

8

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17/02/2008 01:32:46
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9

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 01:49:56
HarderTruth @#8,
Well said, for once we agree, ;-)
10

mk-ultra,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 04:06:35
...and next, "obese" people will have to buy permits to buy cakes, or maybe just banned altogether and chip shop owners will have to keep a tape measure under the counter etc etc.....total control over your life.
This government are even hinting at mass-sterilisation of our teenagers.
At what stage will people decide that they've had enough of this crap?
To be fair, it's not just our government who are at it.....

"Obese Could Be Banned From Mississippi Restaurants"

http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=7821329

"Why we should sterilise teenage girls ... temporarily at least"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=514542&in_page_id=1770
11

mk-ultra,

Edinburgh 17/02/2008 04:17:36
Oh and this is a good one.....

"Outrage at California Plan to Control Thermostats"

"California is said to be likely to implement a plan that would allow give the state the emergency power to control people's thermostats. California could take over the themostats and set them at a desired temperature. As you might expect the plan has consumers outraged."

http://www.sciencenewsblog.com/cgi-bin/snblog.pl?snblog=111081

It's all for Mother Earth, and coming your way.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261&q=endgame&total=2067&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
12

Guga II,

Rockall 17/02/2008 04:44:31
Another lunatic trying to take over the asylum.
13

Reckless,

Bush is a terrorist 17/02/2008 08:23:52

That's just one small part of what's being planned for us. Look at this.

Military Preparing for Martial Law
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1201776346640548860&q=martial+law&total=2150&start=0&num=20&so=0&type=search&plindex=1



http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6495462761605341661&q=martial+law&total=2150&start=0&num=20&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

14

Kenny A,

17/02/2008 10:22:35
People from overseas, tourists all need permits to smoke I take it. How will they get them, this half wit has not thought out anything.

Where do they breed these morons.
15

The Former Mr. Angry,

Perth 17/02/2008 11:30:08
Another fine totalitarian state proposal. Remember how Russians used to need permits to go from one city to another? (At least they did in the films). Next - 'is your journey really necessary' licences. Advantages trotted out - help avoid climate change/global warming, save scarce fuel resources, etc, etc. Incidentally I am a non-smoker.
16

Richardinho,

17/02/2008 15:37:17
Quite amusing.
What I'd like to know is how many of these 'freedom warriors' are going to support people's choice to take recreational drugs?

Ah, thought so!
17

connaughtboy,

stonehaven 17/02/2008 16:09:08
This proposal is enough to make me start smoking. I am already stockpiling normal light bulbs. Does this amount to civil disobedience?
18

Roberta Burns,

17/02/2008 17:41:28
Will we get a tax rebate if we stop smoking?
19

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17/02/2008 20:23:49
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Reckless,

hffu 17/02/2008 21:11:48
Skeptical Global Warming Scientists To Challenge "Consensus"
Hundreds of experts to meet in New York, will media blackball story to maintain climate myth?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/021508_challenge_consensus.htm
21

WL,

livingston 17/02/2008 22:35:57
That £10 is already included in the price of cigarettes. Just another method of getting more tax out of people. You have to be a professor to dream this one up.
22

Scott Webb*,

17/02/2008 23:35:06
Comment@5 Charles. Hi mate,i think it was because i mentioned the camps :)
23

Singlepoint,

Fife 08/04/2008 22:13:35
In comparing Professor Julian Le Grand’s name and his title with that which he says, the term ‘oxymoron’ immediately springs to mind, and I would not dispute that an uncomfortable amount of George Orwell’s quotes apply to this poseur in particular. I have to note the pretentious Department of Health and its vacant lackey, nameless here for evermore, being quite unimagining of eventual someone tapping; as of someone gently rapping; rapping at their chamber door.
24

harleyrider1978,

26/07/2008 13:40:24
Air quality test results by Johns Hopkins University, the American Cancer Society, a Minnesota Environmental Health Department, and various researchers whose testing and report was peer reviewed and published in the esteemed British Medical Journal......prove that secondhand smoke is 2.6 - 25,000 times SAFER than occupational (OSHA) workplace regulations:


http://cleanairquality.blogspot.com


All nullify the argument that secondhand smoke is a workplace health hazard.
Especially since federal OSHA regulations trump, or pre-empt, state smoking ban laws which are not based on scientific air quality test results.
Mark Wernimont
Watertown, MN.
US Supreme court decision 1992 NEVER OVERTURNED...

A U.S. Supreme court decision during the early 1970's ((Lloyd Corp v. Tanner, 407 U.S. 551 (1992)) said a place of business does not become public property because the public is invited in.

So, by that same reasoning. A restaurant or bar is not public property. We need to support small business and stop regulating them out of business.

 

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