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Demand for more action to stop youngsters smoking



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Published Date: 26 March 2008
CAMPAIGNERS today marked the second anniversary of the Scottish smoking ban by calling for more action to stop youngsters taking up the habit.
Edinburgh-based ASH Scotland released new figures showing more than eight out of ten Scots support the ban. The group also called for a licensing scheme for those selling tobacco to be brought in.

The group wants retailers who sell tobacco to have
to apply for a licence, which could then be taken away if they were caught selling to underage youngsters.

The call comes as new figures revealed just 12 fixed penalty notices have been served on Edinburgh premises breaching the smoking ban.

A survey carried out for ASH Scotland showed that 65 per cent strongly supported a licensing scheme for tobacco retailers.

The survey also found that 66 per cent of Scots strongly supported the smoking ban, and only six per cent were strongly opposed to it.

The survey also found that 28 per cent of people visited pubs more often since the ban came in, with 16 per cent visiting them less often.

And 84 per cent agreed that Scottish bars and restaurants were more pleasant since becoming smoke-free.

ASH Scotland chief executive Sheila Duffy said: "Two years on, it is clear that the legislation has been a great success.

"Scotland has helped to blaze a trail for public health, ahead of smoke-free laws south of the Border and in other parts of Europe."

However, she added: "The next big challenge is to stop a new generation getting hooked on tobacco.

"Government figures show that every year, 15,000 13-24 year olds start smoking in Scotland. Eighty two per cent of 15-year-old smokers and 47 per cent of 13-year-old smokers report buying their cigarettes from shops.

"But in 2005-06, only two retailers were fined for selling cigarettes to children. The fines were both less than £200.

"ASH Scotland is calling on the government to take the next big step to improve the health of our young people.

"We want to see a positive licensing scheme, where retailers who sell tobacco products must apply for a straightforward licence. Any retailers found selling cigarettes to children could have their licence suspended."

Ms Duffy continued: "Our polling shows that 89 per cent of Scots would support this measure.

"It would be much more effective, and less bureaucratic, than the under-used current system of prosecution and fines for retailers who break the law.

"With this step, we could take real action to tackle the sale of cigarettes to children. Today I am challenging the Scottish Government to once again show us that it is leading the way to promote public health in the UK."

Meanwhile, new figures today show that city council environmental health officers have carried out 14,000 inspections since March 26, 2005.

A total of 12 fixed penalty notices have been handed out, along with 260 written warnings and one report which was sent to the Procurator Fiscal, which led to a fine.

Compliance with the smoking ban in Edinburgh is at 98.8 per cent, ahead of the national average of 96.8 per cent.

The council said it is now sharing its smoking ban enforcement expertise with other UK authorities.





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  • Last Updated: 26 March 2008 10:30 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Tobacco
 
1

WMSART,

MUSSELBURGH 26/03/2008 11:43:25
seeking to copycat westminster again. hiding cigarettes under the counter, while parents snd others smoke in full view of them is the idea of an idiot.
2

GrahamB,

26/03/2008 12:13:44
"Ms Duffy continued: "Our polling shows that 89 per cent of Scots would support this measure."
I guess I must be in the other 11%
Where does she pluck these figures from and where/when was her poll conducted.
She's as much a fantasist as her predecessor and as dangerous!
3

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 12:17:08
This is a load of contrived rubbish.

The nazi-state smoking ban is NOT supported by a majority. Even if it was, it should still be scrapped because whether or not people smoke and where they do so is NOT subject to democracy. It is a matter of personal choice and freedom.
4

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 12:50:57
#3 Everyone I know supports the ban and this includes smokers as well.

It's filthy and unhealthy so, unless you let me spit on your food when you're eating, you can stop smoking in my face.
5

Dave from Barra ©,

Western Isles 26/03/2008 13:19:59
"It's filthy and unhealthy so, unless you let me spit on your food when you're eating, you can stop smoking in my face."

I'm making the assumption here that you don't actually know many people and those that you do know wear long leather coats and jack boots. Fud.
6

Xena - Warrior Princess,

26/03/2008 13:36:46
#2 Spot on, #4 Funny but everyone I know does NOT support the ban and that includes non smokers. If it really is so disgusting and dangerous ban the production of tobacco altogether, I would have no problem with that.
7

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 14:08:33
#4:

Do I know you? Do I meet you on a regular basis? Have I ever met you?

I don't think so.

In which case, why are you asking me to stop smoking in your face? I don't think I ever have done so.

And why do you presume that I would want to share a table with you whilst I am eating in order that you can spit on my food? By suggesting such a thing, you are demonstrating that you are probably the most disgusting person I have ever heard of.

And you have the gall to complain about a little bit of smoke? Once you stop threatening to behave worse than an un-educated savage, I may take what you say seriously. Until then, leave us all alone.
8

Whiskey,

26/03/2008 14:21:47
Like it or lump it, smoking is a dirty, smelly, filthy habit...and most smokers would like to quit.
Good luck to those trying to quit.
9

DeniseX,

London 26/03/2008 15:53:48
'A survey carried out by ASH'? The majority of adults do not believe ASH.
10

Angus R,

26/03/2008 16:47:53
I noticed cigs are up to almost £6 a pack. Glad i quit over 2 years ago as i sit here smuggly.

#7 Why not try the Allen Carr book to try and help you give up - remember its not an addiction!!
11

TheTerminator,

26/03/2008 17:07:47
#1 WMSMART. It was ASH Scotland that exported this crazy idea to westminster. Have a look at the ASH Scotland 2007 Manifesto ( Next steps for the Scottish Parliament ). Their next idea is to limit the times and places at which tobacco can be sold.
12

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 17:39:29
#10:

Because I want to continue smoking. I enjoy it.

Cigs are not £6 a pack where I get them from!

ASH are just a bunch of nazis. I hope that every single member of them or supporter of them gets what is coming to them, be it in this life or the next!
13

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 21:53:19
The 'Teens' as we all know, aren't 'little puppy dogs' that will all sit down, when you shout..'BOO'!

Nor are they..your 'key-board' on your PC!..,
'just tap a letter and it appears'

Or..'Pray-tell-me'..Do you not understand This,?



Cant purchase cigarette's,?

'Yer havin a laugh'!

They will...'Laugh in your Face', and have their Cigs!

Do you honestly think, they are gonna walk into a shop and try to purchase cigarette's,?

'OF COURSE NOT'!!

They simply get their 'piers' to Purchase the cigarette's for them!!

'Easy-peasy-Japenesey'
14

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 21:56:08
And it IS exactly the same for the Booze!!!
15

Riverkidca,

Swan River 27/03/2008 02:01:04
Their polls are probably conducted through the ASH (hate capitalizing that) network of covens.
16

truthsleuth,

27/03/2008 11:03:38
Any action that stops one poor fool from taking up the smoking (or drinking) habit is worth implementing.
Out of sight out of mind applies to us all and is the lead justification for advertising by keeping the product in mind.

It was almost the written rule that the actors in a film had to be shown smoking a brand of ciggarrette, or dring a coke or eating a burger or driving a particular model of car.For the past 4 deades the cigarrette has been almost totally absent. But I have noticed it is once more raising its head in current movies.
One of the most advantageous moves would be to legislate that alcoholic drinks and cigarrettes should be sold from specialist areas of supermarkets where access and entry to these areas was via doors
17

DeniseX,

London 27/03/2008 18:13:09
truhsleuth wrote 'out of sight out of mind'. Why did the government want smokers outside pubs in full view of everybody?
18

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 27/03/2008 21:04:08
#17,DeniseX,London.
Nobody sent them outside, merely their addiction.
19

DeniseX,

London 28/03/2008 09:04:31
David. *17 'want' *18 'sent'. Your addiction makes you misread.
20

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 28/03/2008 12:13:57
#19,DeniseX,London.
They are not compelled to go outside, but can remain safe and cosy in the pub, unless of course they are such slaves to their addiction that it drives them outside to satisfy it.
Think my keying skills are on a par with my reading. How about Denise's? Does she understand my #18 yet?
21

DeniseX,

London 28/03/2008 13:10:24
David. You substitute words for your own satisfaction. It appears that your only satisfaction is criticising others.
22

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K 28/03/2008 20:36:06
#21. DeniseX,London.
No "substitution" was involved, as smokers were scarcely marched outside at gunpoint. Being outside is a matter of their choice, subject, of course, to their addiction. My real satisfaction comes from long overdue smoke free pubs and other enclosed public places. Denise got the drift yet?
23

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 29/03/2008 21:13:36
Lets be clear, Sheila Duffy, ASH, are an unwanted, not needed, unelected, corrupt political pressure group, spreading hate, discontent, alienation, and has destroyed business's and communities. Allowing this dirty crew any space to spread their lies merely enhances how this whole BIG lie is being perpetuated. I also note once again, that our government sponsored anti-smoking fanatic, David from Pleasantville has not missed his opportunity to comment in his usual way. Keep spreading the hate Davey Boy, thats your job as it is Sheila Duffy. Disharmony is your purpose, bit of a useless occupation, but whilst this Government remains in power, there will be many more useless jobs created.
24

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 29/03/2008 21:24:15
I have no idea where this corrupt Duffy woman gets her statistics from. I know of many Pubs and Clubs where 95% of folk going there would wish to see a repeal of this wicked Ban, that is the ones that have not so far been bancrupted by this evil legislation. I find it difficult not to be profane whenever I hear the filthy ASH word mentioned. A disgusting group.
25

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 29/03/2008 21:27:52
ASH = BIG LIES.
+LABOUR PARTY = MASSIVE CORRUPTION. Thats the real statistics.
26

David from New Mills,

Fug free Pleasantville, U.K. 29/03/2008 22:17:53
#23-5, stef ex Edinburgh.
Well, good old stef has resurfaced, the epitome of reason and good cheer, as always, now venting his perpetual ire on Sheila Duffy, as a change from Maureen Moore. Still, I don't suppose either would be that bothered.
Looks as if stef is one of the 6% minority quoted above.
So where's all the hatred I'm spreading Stefano? Got any good examples?
If stef is now a permanent resident of Texas, has he found plenty of U.S. forums on which to make his typical resentful contributions? Let's hope so, tho' his postings here are always welcome for some light entertainment.
27

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 30/03/2008 00:07:08
Keep your paychecks coming David, your masters expect you to deflect any sensible debate. What other reason would anyone like yourself wish to comment on an issue you claim 'done and dusted', otherwise you be a complte lunatic. Your bosses know this policy could be the end of them at election time, and like them you will not be 'fit for purpose' anymore. Yes, nanny Moore has been replaced, gone into into her retirement with a bagful of public cash, but there is always another fanatic like yourself to fill her Jackboots.
28

David from New Mills,

Fit for purpose Pleasantville, U.K. 30/03/2008 11:06:36
#27,Stef,Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh.
Stef must keep taking the pills, lest he becomes "a complte lunatic". Paychecks, masters, bosses? There, there, perhaps stef should stay out of the sun in Texas.
29

Stef,

Bandera, Tx, formerly Edinburgh. 31/03/2008 00:46:23
#28 David
Sorry for typo error, its quite sad that we have small minded civil servants, the petty and pedantics to make something out of nothing. If you are not being paid as a planted Government serf, then David you are quite simply a 'complete lunatic'..Yes Texas has sun. As for pills I don't use them, I like to think that they be used by the really needy like yourself.
30

Big Eddie,

the pub doorway 31/03/2008 09:27:17
Oh dear. What a lot of bile from the smokers. But I guess it must be disappointing to find out that you're totally out of step with the majority of the population.

Looks like the smoking ban is here to stay. Better get used to it and find something else to froth at the mouth about.

By the way, I think that the polling data was collected by YouGov, rather than by ASH directly.
31

David from New Mills,

Cool Pleasantville, U.K. 31/03/2008 11:27:42
#29, Stef,far,far,away.
Perhaps it's diehard smokers like stef who choose to make "much ado about little" in griping because they have to step outside briefly to have their nicotine fix.
Hopefully Stefano finally accepts that I'm no "planted Government serf", as his constant allegations along those lines were making me fear for his sanity.
He should keep wearing the stetson, as it may just cause some improvement to his hot head. He should also consider slipping a seltzer in his Buds to give his life some real fizz.
32

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K 31/03/2008 11:34:06
#31,Big Eddie,the pub doorway.
Big Eddie should realise that the repetitive whingeing from the likes of stef, Petrol Man, Carlo Rossi, Charles Linskaill et al has a certain therapeutic value for them, as a release from the not too hard reality of life, smoking restrictions and all.
Additionally, whom else could we have a laugh at, otherwise?
33

Charles IIIX,

Durham 01/04/2008 16:37:36
I have posted this comment on other threads here when I realised what was going on, but had to add --- WOW --- the ASH propaganda machine is in overdrive on this one - new names, new 'anti'-comentators, they really must be frightened of the smoker backlash.

These statistics are LIES, LIES with a few LIES added.

I can understand why ASH is targetting this site - because the commentators on this site are very very good - The ASH employees are getting a bloody nose and they are struggling badly!

GREAT respect to all the pro-freedom pro-smoking, anti-propaganda fighters on here - keep it up, but expect a lot more fight from them yet, They dont like to be beaten!!

Anyway, my original comment;
When I started to read this thread and others related to the smoking ban on this site, I was quite impressed at the knowledge that the commentators had in relation to the smoking ban and SHS. Then after a while I realised that two of the commentators were backing each other up and passing on FALSE or skewed information, whilst in the process were intent on making anyone who opposed the smoking ban look foolish, which, I might add, they failed to do miserably. Yet they continued to try to humiliate regardless, resorting to sarcasm and poor quality wit. It is clear that these anti-smoking commentators had a reasonable grasp of the arguments yet surprisingly continued to push the misinformation, lies and propaganda normally associated with labour spin and ASH lies. I realised what this meant and I am sure others have too. This tactic is becoming more common on other web sites, forums and newspaper comment sections. I (more than) suggest that these commentators are employed to perpetuated this mis-information on behalf of ASH. The aim is not to try and talk smokers into stopping but to influence any non-commited readers into believing that smokers are stupid, foolish,(or any other derogatory term). From the smokers point of view, and anyone who believes in liberty, thi
34

Charles IIIX,

Durham 01/04/2008 16:40:05
cont:
...anyone who believes in liberty, this is inspiring as it indicates that ASH are losing the battle as each day goes by, and they know it. The new and extremely expensive advertising 'campaign for tobacco control' (control being the operative word)is wide-ranging, covering tv, radio, media and internet. Employing two or three propagandists is chicken feed, but indicative of the panic. What they fail to appreciate is that the more it becomes obvious that one section of society is intent on controlling another, then there will inevitably be a backlash. Whilst this is very expensive, I hope that this 'control campaign' continues and becomes even more desperate. The more desperate it becomes, the more counter-productive it will be. The proponents of the smoking propaganda groups will hope that a famous quote will prevail;- "a lie, repeated often enough, will become the truth" I believe the other famous quote will actually prevail;- "every action has an and equal opposite re-action" Those who hold liberty and freedom above control and discrimination, will win in the end. Please make others aware of the underhand tactics of these despised anti-smoking lobbyists.
35

Rollo Tommasi,

01/04/2008 19:33:42
Charles

If you're concerned about lies, kindly point to the lies on ASH's website: http://www.ashscotland.org.uk/ash/CCC_FirstPage.jsp or
http://www.ash.org.uk/

Because I can certainly point you to a few lies on the pro-smoking groups' websites. Including the whole premise upon which their claim that "passive smoking is a myth" is based.

Face it Charles. The facts are on our side. The law is on our side. Human dignity is on our side (those who wish to save lives over those who wish to contaminate the air others breathe). And public opinion is on our side.
36

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K. 01/04/2008 21:11:42
#33/4, Charles IIIX,Durham.
Charles' less than enthralling diatribe begs the question:- just what is he afraid of? Reality?
If the, presumably pro-smokers, "commentators on this site are very very good", why do they tend to fade away into oblivion after a while? Lack of stamina on their part?
37

DeniseX,

London 02/04/2008 08:47:52
Rollo. I'ts good to see there are still one or two of us that believe the gospel according to ASH. The number of smokers was declining every year until ASH started spreading the good word. It appears that all that good advice has made smoking more attractive, especially to youngsters. Perhaps it would have been better if ASH hadn't said anything.
38

Rollo Tommasi,

02/04/2008 16:37:35
Denise. Really? According to whom is smoking becoming more attractive to youngsters?

And are you able to point to the supposed "lies" on the ASH UK or ASH Scotland websites?

I've absolutely no association to ASH and don't support all they ask for. I just wish some of the pro-smoking brigade could do more than just lap up the nonsense spouted by pro-smoking websites.
39

David from New Mills,

Pleasantville, U.K 02/04/2008 19:51:28
#37/8.
I'm sure Rollo realises all too well by now that the "smokes" have this knee jerk reaction to anything that exposes their already flimsy case, so ASH or any other target that appears on the horizon can easily draw their venom. So just when will they realise that it's time to call it quits?
David, a non ASH associate.
40

DeniseX,

London 03/04/2008 17:59:06
Rollo. I did not say that ASH told 'lies'. I believe them as much as our Government.

 

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