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ERI shop prices are sickening



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Published Date: 12 May 2008
SHOP bosses are being accused of cashing in on visiting relatives and patients at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary by hiking up prices on everyday goods such as tissues and grapes.
Unison, the public sector union, and the Scotland Patients Association (SPA), have both hit out following complaints from relatives of patients.

The hospital was built by Consort as part of a PPP scheme in 2003, and NHS Lothian has no control over who runs businesses in the foyer, or what prices they charge.

The main shop is managed by United News Shops (UNS) and prices are higher than in the supermarket. Packs of disposable tissues, for example, cost £2.79 – more than double than the price in Scotmid – and Lucozade 40 per cent higher at £1.39.

Grapes are almost four times as expensive – shoppers at the ERI pay £1.39 for 125 grams, while at Scotmid 500g cost only slightly more at £1.49.

Critics say UNS is taking advantage of a captive market.

Mick McGahey, Unison branch secretary for NHS Lothian's University Hospitals Division, said: "We've had complaints about this from day one.

"It's not just the shop but throughout the foyer. People find it very expensive. We've never been supportive of the prices that are charged there.

"They have a captive audience and although we've complained it has fallen on deaf ears.

"It has nothing to do with the health board, and we have taken our concerns to Consort but they don't seem interested.

"Their only interest is money but this is a constant problem for people and must be a nightmare for relatives.

We get complaints, but we are powerless to do anything about it."

Dr Jean Turner, chief executive of the SPA, added: "The problem is that the ERI is so isolated. If you are going to build a hospital so far away the decent thing to do is have shops that are not extortionate.

"People have travelled a great distance and find themselves a captive market, that's very unfair. People are paying more for fuel, and they have to pay for hospital parking. It is all so expensive."

Consort and UNS denied having had complaints from customers. Consort also said it had had no contact with Unison about the prices in the shop.

Roger Swift, managing director of UNS, said: "We've had no complaints whatsoever from anyone in Edinburgh. We are very interested in complaints and run one price structure throughout our 72 sites.

"We've had very few complaints (nationwide] but it is hard to compete with supermarkets, which do run non-profit making lines which we cannot compete with."

A Consort spokeswoman added: "Prices are standard in United News outlets throughout the country.

"Consort has had no complaints from users of the retail facility at the Royal Infirmary of Edinburgh or from Unison.

"We are satisfied with the service United News provides."

Hospital retailer United News Shops also runs outlets in Glasgow's Royal Infirmary and Victoria Infirmary, as well as dozens of other hospital shops, including Liverpool, Manchester and London.

www.unshospitals.co.uk
www.consorthealthcare.com
www.scotlandpatients.com
www.unison.org.uk

The full article contains 530 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 12 May 2008 6:09 PM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

gods lovechild,

12/05/2008 12:12:52
the prices at the western general are just the same its an absolute disgrace for example a pot noodle costs 89p in most shops but in the wgh it costs £1.05 its the same with juice they are at least 30 pence dearer than the outside shops, But the best bit of all is that the wgh banned fizzy sugary juice like coke , fanta and irn bru....yet they sell red bull.....
2

JulesF,

12/05/2008 12:17:20
If they can't compete with supermarket prices then they should fetch their coats. I'm sure Tesco or Sainsburys would be more than happy to oblige.

This is typical of people exploiting the sick, parking charges are an other example.
3

Liz,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:32:10
Like all these things, companies will take advantage of any captive market. You just need to head to a trainstation/airport to see proof of this. You need not be so sure that Tescos or Sainsburys would be any better. They charge a premium on their prices in their 'Express' Metro' type stores so it would be no different in a hospital.

#1 Quite why anyone would want to buy a PotNoodle is beyond me - you would be better off eating some real food.
4

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:32:12
Solution is simple. Buy in advance locally, take with you what you need and don't go near the shop.

If enough people boycott the shop they will soon reduce their prices.

However, anyone caught short at the ERI can always go to the shops at Danderhall, only a few minutes away.
5

Arnie,

12/05/2008 12:38:51
Its the parking, tvs and phone which are main problem imo.
6

vote them out,

12/05/2008 12:40:03
The Council double yellow lined every road around the ERI even though its miles out of town. The government has conspired with the ppp firm Consort and has sold people down the river.
Tolls on bridges have been abolished but these monsters (consort) are allowed to rip off pregnant women, the elderly, the sick, and their families while the council and the government turns a blind eye.

Even the nurses have to pay stupid prices to park at the ERI. Not surprising that NHS nurses are going agency and choosing not to work at any hospital in the clutches of Consort.
7

alex patersons English teacher,

12/05/2008 12:42:26
4. "However, anyone caught short at the ERI can always go to the shops at Danderhall, only a few minutes away."

what if you cant hold it in for that long,and will scotmid be ok with the mess in there doorway if you can.
8

jambo vicki,

edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:49:22
#4 Would be quicker going to moredun shops rather going up to Danderhall!
9

Jenny MacArthur,

12/05/2008 12:56:24
So who's surprised. The Labour government turned hospital building into a way to line their big business friends' pockets through the disgustingly expensive PFI schemes. Parking charges and grapes at four times the going rate is just a bit more cream for them.
10

fionac,

12/05/2008 12:57:46
When my mum was in the WGH we were told by staff there we were not allowed to bring in goods from outside the hospital as these carried "germs", this particularly applied to newspapers. Not sure if this rule still applies.
11

vote them out,

12/05/2008 13:00:46
if you have cancer - you have to pay a fortune to park

if your wife is giving birth-
you have to pay a fortune to park

if you have had a triple heart bypass-
you have to pay a fortune to park

if your child has had an accident and broke their arm-
you have to pay a fortune to park.

if you are a nurse - you have to pay a fortune to park

if you are a hospital manager being paid more than £50,000 - YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY TO PARK.
12

Sarcasm,

12/05/2008 13:02:32
#9
Well well Jenny, you're against the parking charges.

Who'd have guessed it.

I might go for a drive to celebrate.
13

Epicuras,

12/05/2008 13:08:48
the new ERI has been a disaster from the start. The NHS should just buy out the PFI contract (as was done with the Skye Bridge rip-off)and run it as a normal not-fpr-profit public service, which is waht it should be. I know this will cost a lot, but Gordon Brown is personally responsible for this mess and it should come his own personal pocket - he's been lining it with public money for long enough, he probably wouldn't even notice it missing
14

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 13:53:19
# 7 alex patersons English teacher

Ha Ha Very funny :)


# 8 jambo vicki

Quicker, yes.

Safer? Maybe.
15

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

12/05/2008 14:06:19
Theres a few obvious solutions here

a) Dont get sick
b) Dnt be friends with anyone who is prone to sickness and if you are just ignore them if they get sick

16

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

12/05/2008 14:07:32
Grapes. For the love of God who eats Grapes. Theres nothing in Grapes to cure cancer you know.
17

mirolle,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 14:08:15
I was a patient in RIE recently and had to stay longer than expected. I wanted to watch tv which cost £2.90 for 24hrs - but my husband said that the minimum purchase for the card to make this work was £3.50!! An absolute rip-off, especially as I lost out on the other 60p.
18

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

12/05/2008 14:14:19
youre in hospital and youre worried about 60p ?

If you hadve been born in Victorian times they would have sawn your legs off for the hell of it even if all you had was a gippy tummy.
19

mirolle,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 14:31:34
*18 - it's the principle. Multiply that by the number of patients paying out for the services every day and it turns into lots of money for nothing!!
20

Scotish Exile,

12/05/2008 14:39:56
to say that the NHS trust have no say in the matter is ridiculous, they had every chance to prevent this sort of thing when the contracts were agreed, but ovbiously didn't know what they were doing, why aren't the people who agreed the contracts on behalf of the NHS trust and iner alia the patients and visitors not pilloried??
21

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

12/05/2008 15:20:01
I take your point mirolle. For the shop, like all aspects in life its best to plan your purchases ahead.
22

Ed_Izmir,

Turkey 12/05/2008 15:31:33
It's a hospital, it doesn't need a shop selling Pot Noodle.
23

Gastric Antral Vascular Ectasia,

12/05/2008 15:31:38
18.

I would be interested to know more about the Victorians and why they sawed the legs off people who had stomach troubles. They sound like an odd bunch.
24

A Friend of Fernando Poo,

12/05/2008 15:53:41
"People have travelled a great distance and find themselves a captive market"

Top Saving Tip: when you pass a shop on your journey, why not pop in and buy grapes and tissues?
25

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12/05/2008 16:07:47
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26

Metal Mickey,

12/05/2008 16:42:16
I could crush a grape. (If I could afford one.)
27

rock on jonny,

12/05/2008 16:50:59
NO7 ENGLISH TEACHER .NO WONDER KIDS ARE SO STUPID THESE DAYS WHEN AN ENGLISH TEACHER CANT SPELL THEIR CORRECTLY.
28

Robert12,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 17:19:17
Crazy idea - buy things elsewhere. It's a convenience shop charging convenience prices. It's like when you go to the cinema and pay £2.50 for wee bottle of Coke. You don't HAVE to buy it.
29

shopperat eri,

edinburgh 12/05/2008 17:20:03
i am regularly at eri in edinburgh so use the shop fairly often can i just ask why the reporter chose scotmid and not say sainsburys he didnt write abut offers regularly on in the shop ie
bottle of lucozade 2 for £1.59
the tissues he chose were the most expensive in the shop, the tissues prices start at £1.19 and sandwiches are on par with sainsburys
30

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12/05/2008 18:21:05
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31

Julian,

EDINBURGH 12/05/2008 22:27:58
Fernando,

Not so top tip. What if you're a long stay patient in there for weeks?

#20 Scottish Exile,

Surely these PFI contracts must have said something about things like shops and cafes. And surely those who run them don't have an open ended right to charge whatever they like forever.

A simple solution must be to allow another outlet in to compete with the present one.
32

Ian Ross,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 23:55:30
The prices in the shop are an absolute disgrace. Enough to give anyone a heart attack. Remedy is simple - just don't use it. But the other shops are just as bad. A complete and utter rip off. When I was visiting my wife the other year, I always bought sweets, orange juice and paper tissues elsewhere before I visited.
33

Adolf Crosby,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 00:15:21
"NHS Lothian has no control over who runs businesses in the foyer, or what prices they charge..."

Fair enough - but NHS Lothian does have control over the price of site rental, which has a direct effect on prices of goods sold in the shop. So it's a bit disingenuous to blame it on the owner of the business if their prices are too high. ("Steep, they're bleedin perpendicular missus!")

The price of parking at hosptals in Lothian and elsewhere isn't capitalism at work, it is a cynical no-value for money exercise in fleecing the people who've already paid for the the car park - the taxpayer. This isn't just a Lothian NHS scam by the way - it is a national disease.

#29 'shopper at eri' - nice try. You either can't count or you work for in public relations for NHS Lothian.




34

celtic4,

USA 13/05/2008 02:50:54
In my hometown, the only shop in hospital is run by the Ladies Auxillary and the money goes right back to the hospital needs. They are all volunteers too. In a larger hospital, I have not seen evidence of gouging prices here. Sounds pretty silly to charge people for parking there. No one pays for parking in a southern hospital parking lot, and if it is full(and it has been) there are regular car parks but one must pay to park there. The price isn't bad at all, however. But to overprice something simply because it is a captive customer seems stingy to me. A good way to do is to buy beforehand if one has the chance. And I've found most hospital cafeteria food here to be palatable. But then, if a relative is critically ill, the apetite isn't all that much in question, is it? I could eat sawdust at a time like that.
35

Mr Fuzzy,

Edinburgh 13/05/2008 02:57:25
Simple solution. Grant planning permission for other shops to open across the road or in a new building.
36

Julian,

EDINBURGH 13/05/2008 04:02:16
#36,

I wouldn't be surprised if that was disallowed in the PFI contract.

 

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