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First ScotRail in plea for mothballed locos to ease overcrowding



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Published Date: 12 May 2008
RECORD passenger numbers have forced Scotland's main rail operator to bring back old-style locomotives.
The Scotsman can reveal that First ScotRail is seeking rolling stock – which may have to come out of mothballs – to ease overcrowding on the busy Fife-Edinburgh commuter routes, used by three million passengers a year.

The firm has been forced to
advertise for locomotives after being unable to find trains matching those in the rest of its fleet, with engines under the carriages.

Journey times may increase because the locomotive-hauled carriages' doors have to be closed manually rather than being centrally controlled by conductors.

Passenger watchdogs welcomed the extra seats the trains would provide but said it was crucial that punctuality and reliability did not slip. First ScotRail has specified that service reliability was "very important".

Industry sources told The Scotsman orders for new trains across the UK should have been made earlier by the government, which had delayed the process by excessive red tape.

First ScotRail passenger numbers have increased by 20 per cent to 82 million since the company took over four years ago and are forecast to rise to 95 million within six years. UK rail travel reached an historic high last year of 30.1 billion miles. It has only ever been higher during demobilisation after the Second World War.

First ScotRail is hunting for a five or six-carriage train to provide two services a day between Edinburgh and the Fife circle, a loop between Inverkeithing, Cowdenbeath and Kirkcaldy. The current trains have only three carriages.

The operator said the move was a stop-gap measure before an order of new trains arrived in 2010.

Four years ago, First ScotRail's predecessor hired locomotive-hauled rains for the Edinburgh-North Berwick line, which cost more than the route's entire fare revenue. The trains also added five minutes to journeys because of the manually-operated carriage doors.

First ScotRail said using a locomotive was not expected to cost more than existing trains because it would effectively be hired by the hour, and free for other work, such as hauling freight, for the rest of the day.

Robert Samson, the Scotland link manager for Passenger Focus, the official watchdog, said the trains' performance was critical, and he hoped journey times would not be increased.

A spokesman for First ScotRail said: "Our objective is to provide additional capacity – earlier than expected – to meet growing demand for rail travel."





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  • Last Updated: 11 May 2008 9:18 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: ScotRail , The railways
 
1

truthsleuth,

12/05/2008 01:13:03
The situation on the Railways is absolutely ridiculous.
Passenger numbers increase year on year despite massive increase in fares and services that are sometimes simply abonimable.
We have a Department for Transport D(a)fT for short that in the UK as a whole deprives rail of investment to meet this growing demand and sets services that are designed to deter passenger growth.
We are told there is no spare rolling stock/locomotives and yet various Ministry of Defence sites are full of trains/locos that are just rusting away. At the same time perfectly good electric and diesel locomotives are being sold to overseas railways.

In Scotland the Situation is not quite as bad as South of the Border since a more sensible regime is in control though with demand so high they should be doing even more.
2

Navvy,

12/05/2008 01:28:15
Does this mean that more people are travelling or that more are travelling by rail?
3

Guga II,

Rockall 12/05/2008 03:23:25
Bring back the steam trains.
4

Jock's Away,

Victoria, 12/05/2008 06:02:44
Maybe the Scottish Steam Preservation at Bo'ness should be approached. After all the object of rail travel is to get from A to B in reasonable time. A further benefit would be that closing the doors them selves would be a step in the right direction in tackling the growing waist lines. Try the "We need" rather than the "we want" approach in times of drought.
5

gus1940,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 07:23:22
At last back to the future -proper trains with comfortable seats and passengers not packed in like sardines with a diesel engine banging away under the floor.
6

JayJay,

Right here 12/05/2008 08:18:54
We either want more people in trains or we don't. The Government could make a start by developing what is known elsewhere in the world as "a transport policy". Instead, we get bombarded with new stealth taxes, spuriously wrapped in a "green" wrapper, and railways that increase fares by well in excess of inflation every year whilst passengers are left to enjoy the "service" on death traps like the Fife crusher.
I do wonder if ministers ever take the trouble to visit places like Berlin, where public transport is plentiful, efficient and cheap? I wonder if they themselves blush slightly at the double whammy of absurdly expensive trains and ruinous taxes on cars? Perhaps we should all just walk. It may soon be the only mode of transport that isn't taxed to the hilt.
7

Draco Was a Wimp,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 08:28:36
An example of Labour hypocrisy. Remember when they said they would re-nationalise the railways? Instead they persisted with the ridiculous situation introduced by the Tories, railway companies that don't own their own rolling stock or infrastructure. The only beneficiaries are lease-organising lawyers and spivs. The SNP should nationalise the whole damn lot.
8

Sunny Bay,

12/05/2008 08:39:09
What a load of tosh.

The only reason passenger numbers have increased is that they are now catching all the fare dodgers at Waverley, Haymarkey and the Gyle.

Hence the reason are more tickets sold.

Either way they still need more trains especially on the Circle Line at peak times !
9

Robert12,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 09:06:54
I'd say increased numbers relate to the number of people moving to West Fife and trying to cram themselves onto Edinburgh bound trains. It's time they lengthened platforms to allow for more than 3 carriages.
10

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 09:31:28
6 Jay Jay
Is there no VAT on shoes?

Also many shoes are made of leather which comes from cows. Cows emit methane from their posteriors. Methane is a so-called greenhouse gas. It's only a matter of time till a special "green tax" is put on leather shoes.
11

Alan B,

12/05/2008 09:38:12
The scottish parliament really needs to take total control of trains. Having control of which train company operates but not track gives little power to improve things. With labour bankrupting railtrack a few yrs ago it should be easy to split national rail and create a scottish rail track company allowing the sp to create a structure that would allow us to meet our rail requirments.

The other big problem is the white elephant schemes labour have focussed on. EARL and the borders rail link. The government should concentrate in delivering a better rail service with what we have got first of all. The new southern link between edin and glas is meant to take about 1.5hrs is just ridiculous. Both north and south ed - glas links should take no more than 1/2hr. This would remove some of the over crowding on the northern link. And also service the towns in the southern link that need access to 2 of our main employment centres. It is ridiculous than livingston has not meaningful train service to glasgow.
12

Robert12,

12/05/2008 11:11:26
Another issue related to the Fife line is that anyone North of Edinburgh has to go across the Forth Bridge to Edinburgh in order to get to Glasgow. Why is there not a link from Fife to Glasgow via Stirling?
13

Alternative (High Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 11:24:51
Go down the Science Museum and get the Mallard running again.
14

David Harrington,

Edinburgh 12/05/2008 12:33:03
I don't see why slam door stock should necessarily be slower - people just need to be reminded again how to close doors behind them.
#11 "White elephant" schemes such as the Caledonian Express and A2B which provide what you ask for, i.e. faster Livingston to Glasgow services.
#12 The Stirling to Alloa line, which opens next week, allows this to happen.
15

Between the lines,

Dubai 12/05/2008 12:38:44
#12, presumably you are also unaware of the direct early morning Kirkcaldy to Glasgow Queen St. service that operates via the Forth Bridge and Linlithgow (with an evening peak return that avoids Edinburgh too)?

When did you last actually travel by train from Fife?
16

Alan B,

12/05/2008 13:46:52
#David

I thought i had been clear the "white elephant" schemes i referred to were EARL and the borders rail link. The border rail link because there are not enough potential users of the link without massive house building apparently to make the line viable. I would have though it better to concentrate rail services on the bottlenecks, reliability and speed on linking areas where we do have the populations to support it. This scheme was chosen for political reasons to satisfy the lib dems.

EARL at a cost of 1 billion. While in principle it may be a good idea i believe that the money could be better spent on other services.

With regard to the southern link from edin to glas (central) from what i have read this train is ridiculously slow. It just seems to me that from an economic perspective it makes sense to have our towns in the central belt having access to the 2 cities. Currently we have a slow norther link from edin to glas via falkirk and are bringing on stream an much slower southern link.
17

davidmcn,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 14:09:13
"rolling stock – which may have to come out of mothballs"

Are those really big mothballs, or tiny trains?
18

stmonan,

London 12/05/2008 15:47:30
I hardly think a 'once per day' service between Kircaldy and Glasgow should have the Fifers dancing in the streets. You need at least an hourly service before anyone with a proper job can plan a working day around a route like that, idiot!

Penzance also has one train a day from Glasgow. Edinburgh has hundreds, even Oban and Fort William have more than one.
19

Saoghal Beag,

12/05/2008 21:11:47
robert12, stop telling them about west fife, i'm sat at teh kitchen window with a view down the forth valley to the wallace monument and ben lomond, if it was clear i could see the arrochar alps. they are opening up the alloa to stirling line so there is an link from west fife by train but the bus frm kincardine only takes 40 mins or so.
20

Mr Lucky,

At work 25/06/2008 10:22:30
I for one am quite looking forward to the prospect of a return to locomotive hauled stock on the Fife Circle. They tend to be more comfortable, quieter and have a higher capacity than the DMUs that are currently the backbone of the route.
It will also be interesting to see something other than the usual 'bean cans'.

There are plenty of spare locos around and a lot of coaching stock in storage so it shouldn't be too hard for ScotRail to find something; they did manage it for the line to North Berwick, so they should manage for Fife too.

 

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