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Scots golden eagles 'put at risk of poisoning by move to Ireland'



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Published Date: 07 August 2008
FIFTY of Scotland's golden eagles have been given to Ireland as part of a re-introduction programme, despite claims from campaigners that the creatures have been put at risk of being poisoned.
About ten chicks a year are being given to Ireland in a reintroduction programme, after the species was wiped out there.

The Scottish Gamekeepers' Association (SGA) has called for the project, carried out under a licence from Scottish Natural Heritage (SNH), to be stopped.

Many of the eagles are taken from areas in Scotland with struggling populations. But more than 20 of the eagles given to Ireland are missing, with five confirmed dead.

Until January, it was legal to use poison baits in Ireland to kill some birds. It is believed at least one golden eagle has been accidentally poisoned.

Last month, a report by SNH highlighted low numbers of golden eagles in many areas of Scotland where they should be thriving – a situation blamed on illegal persecution.

Alex Hogg, chairman of SGA, said it "reeked of double standards" that gamekeepers were blamed for persecuting golden eagles when they are being taken from their nests and given to Ireland.

Yesterday, however, SNH defended the programme, saying chicks were only taken when two were born in one nest, as the younger chick would normally be killed by the elder anyway.

Meanwhile, RSPB Scotland accused the SGA of trying to deflect attention from the true cause of the decline in golden eagle numbers – illegal poisoning.

Mr Hogg said: "Until Ireland can prove they are looking after our eagles better than currently, we should halt this extravagant experiment.

"It is an irony that SNH is exporting precious birds to Ireland to have them exposed to poison at the same time as they are blaming persecution by gamekeepers as the reason why golden eagle numbers here are lower than they should be."

Professor Colin Galbraith, the director of scientific and advisory services at SNH, said

the project was carefully managed and claimed the number of confirmed deaths in Ireland, equivalent to 10 per cent, was quite low. He said it was not unusual for 22 birds to be missing as they were often not seen months, and there were few bird watchers in Ireland to keep track of them.

Prof Galbraith said the project was reviewed annually to decide whether the licence should be continued. And he stressed that overall, the project was proving a success in helping establish golden eagles in Ireland.

Duncan Orr-Ewing, head of species and land management at RSPB Scotland, said: "In terms of the overall population of golden eagles in Scotland, the most important issue is the killing of adult birds. This is a spurious attempt to deflect attention from the core issue."


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  • Last Updated: 06 August 2008 9:31 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Birds of prey
 
1

Resolutions,

07/08/2008 00:48:57
As if they are not at risk here too?

Has there been an education programme in Ireland - they tend to be on the ball with these things.
2

alioopoop1,

Feilding 07/08/2008 04:56:11
If the move to reestablish the Irish colonies does not proceed, Scotlands famous Golden Eagle is most certainly doomed. The current scottish 'mania' for wind generated electric power is killing about 400 of these majestic birds, and thousands of other species, every year from being stuck by the blades of the windmill turbines. It should be an encouraged philosophy, to transfer as many of the birds as possible, to areas outside of Scotland where they may be truly protected, and hopefully be able to flourish.
3

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 07/08/2008 06:13:02
#2 alioopoop

Don't Ireland have any windfarms then ?
4

DesertRat,

New Mexico, USA 07/08/2008 06:32:31
#3 Angoos
I was wondering the same thing. There's talk here of building thousands of windmill turbines. If there's a serious bird kill problem, we're going to be inundated with feathers.
5

Randomly Blocked Poster, ,

07/08/2008 06:39:32
Presumably the RSPB does not have any evidence to back up their claims of all these eagles being poisoned in Scotland otherwise we would have heard what it was.
Missing if in Ierland, poisoned if in Scotland just not discussed in England where urban sprawl is necessary to breed the RSPB's most important species, members.
Put up or shut up.
6

nabodican,

Rural Scotland 07/08/2008 06:49:35
#2 & #3
Ireland has nothing like the numbers of wind turbines that are going up in Scotland at the instigation of the Scottish government and fully supported by the SNH.

At least these eagles will have a chance of survival, unlike the hen harriers at a windfarm site on Skye that were stomped on in the nest so as not to be seen flying in the area of a windfarm.
7

donald,

glasgow 07/08/2008 07:35:56
The flight of the Geese and the Heron made way for Anglo-Capitalist Landlords,who are not yet extinct in Ireland and Scotland.

Follow the wild geese home.
8

bald eagle,

07/08/2008 08:29:07
Another excellent quote from Alex (that dead eagle could be the same one the police found dead up north last year) Hogg further damaging his organisation. I find it amazing that the SGA members still have Mr Hogg in post.

The organisation is sending out completely mixed messages; they deny gamekeepers kill raptors but at the same time lobby for the right to control raptor numbers. They are now argueing against the removal of eagles from Scotland fearing they may come to harm in Ireland but are generally quiet when a keeper is convicted of such a crime.

Do they exist as a lobby group to change the law, as a group to defend keepers after they are caught offending (they had no choice, all the buzzards were harrassing the poor wee defenceless pheasants) or are they now a protectioist society for eagles. Confused?
9

yockel,

07/08/2008 08:36:19
Is there any truth in the claims that wind farms kill birds? It seems a little improbable but I have never walked beneath a turbine to look for myself.

Do they send men round each morning with black bin bags to clear up the devastation or are the sites infested with vermin, corvids and buzzards living off the carrion?
10

A Scott,

Glasgow 07/08/2008 08:43:17
How do you know when a gamekeeper is lying..? His mouth is open.
11

The McKellarator,

07/08/2008 08:49:26
# 4 Desert rat good news for the pillow manufacturers.

Ireland had it's first golden eagle chick born last year, the first in nearly a century, since they were hunted to extinction.

Rather surprised that these magnificent beasts with the ability to soar thousands of feet in the air and spot rutting voles in a bush a mile away could be so blind as to not notice a giant whirry thing in their path. I suspect the number of birdies colliding with windmills has possibly been exaggerated...
12

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 07/08/2008 09:26:41
Ireland has 85 wind farms; Scotland has 55.
13

fred bloggs,

Edinburgh 07/08/2008 09:33:52
Ireland's wind capacity is 870MW compared to Scotland's 1210Mw.
14

Sula Bassana,

Bass Rock 07/08/2008 09:46:38
SNH (Colin) should be more careful about disparaging remarks about the numbers of keen birdwatchers in Ireland. Their national birdwatching organisation BirdWatch Ireland has 14,000 very keen and active members . Scotland's national bird organisation , SOC has only 3,000. What surprises me is that although we've exported Ospreys to England, so far I don't thing we've sent any of Scotland's national bird , Golden Eagles, to England!!!, political sensitivities methinks, or is the Irish experiment a trial run?

Could SNH publish a balance sheet per year of birds exported and imported( Sea Eagles) plus numbers of known survivors in their annual report, so that as taxpayers we can see how effective these experiments are.

See

www.birdwatchireland.ie
15

lodger,

Highland 07/08/2008 09:52:33
Like all other creatures, eagles die of old age.
They will also fight to the death for a mate and territory. They dont all die of poisoning or shooting.
I enjoy watching them on the estate where I work and have even seen three of them hunting together - (family group).
Many people think they are seeing an eagle when they are watching a buzzard, but when you see an eagle, you dont say "is it a buzzard?".

According to some "experts", eagles dont take live lambs, but I have often seen them hunting deer calves.
Its quite a spectacle to see a pair single out a calf and attack it.

16

Beergoggles,

England 07/08/2008 10:01:33
#7

Yes, the English are to blame for this, of course. If in doubt, eh?
17

Beergoggles,

07/08/2008 10:14:57
#14

I doubt 'political sensitivities' have anything to do with it. I'd hazard a guess that there's unfortunately not enough 'wilderness' left in England for these magnificent birds to live in peace. I'm sure you'd probably agree with me that stemming over-population in England may be a good thing all round ;)
18

Geraldine Firequeen,

07/08/2008 12:29:26
no 11 - 'giant whirry thing' - I think the problem is that they may think these are giant poles and can fly between (if they see prey on the ground) as the whirry bits cannot be seen when turning fast? Thats what I understood anyway. I was in Ireland when the introduction programme was going ahead and saw lots of posters. But I have to say, for people with such a poetic reputation, the Irish seem to have lost their souls. The rapid development is destroying ancient sites and stone circles - I think they like money more than myth
19

The McKellarator,

07/08/2008 12:44:05
Geraldine, are you seriously saying that the Irish are putting wind turbines in stone circles?
20

Poubelle,

07/08/2008 12:52:21
#2 "The current scottish 'mania' for wind generated electric power is killing about 400 of these majestic birds, and thousands of other species, every year"

From where do you get these spurious figures? There are only around 450 breeding pairs in Britain at the moment. I think we'd know if they were being decimated in this way. Check your facts before posting drivvle.
21

Ronda,

New York 07/08/2008 14:41:45
I wish the Scotsman would stop using the term re-introduce. It's re-establish. A native animal can't be introduced into its native habitat.
22

The McKellarator,

07/08/2008 16:58:13
#20 Well said little bin. By my reckoning that's 500 single parent Golden Eagles out there.
23

Snowshoe,

Angus 07/08/2008 17:50:11
Many of the eaglets taken from the nests for reintroduction are from the nests on grouse moors.

When two eagles are in one nest and reach the age when SNH are taking one for reintroduction to Ireland, both of these eaglets are ready to fledge, both will survive in the wild.

There is no decline in the breeding population of eagles in Scotland. In fact there appears to have been a slight increase. The chicks may not fledge in some areas but this is because of food shortage or disturbance.

The project under Professor Colin Galbraith was obviously not carefully managed as they totally ignored the fact that poisoned bait was regularily and legally used in Ireland.

If these eagle losses and use of poisons were occuring in Scotland the RSPB and SNH would be calling for the death penalty - not imprisonment of offenders, but because they sanctioned the removals they are ignoring the losses and giving their approval to the project.

It is stange that when a bird fitted with a tracking device disappears in Scotland it must have been persecuted but when it disappears in Ireland it is only lost or hiding.

The only spurious comments made in this article are by Duncan Orr-Ewing of the RSPB who knows that the eagle population is stable and rising in Scotland and where it isn't in localised situations it is down to food shortage and disturbance.

The windfarms being promoted by the RSPB, SNH and Scottish Executive will kill more eagles than any rogue element would ever account for.
24

The McKellarator,

07/08/2008 18:47:17
#23 Snowshoe, you seem like a knowledgeable sort, how many Golden Eagles have been killed by wind turbines in Scotland so far?
25

jerrymanders,

07/08/2008 21:00:07
#23

Snowshoot

Are you Alex Hogg?
26

"Scotty",

08/08/2008 00:52:53
Windmill turbines are the scourge for everything that flies; they are NOT the answer to the world's problem with petrol usage.
.
Without birds of ANY type, the human race is indeed in dire trouble.
27

Jayson Walker,

Western USA 20/08/2008 11:13:01
This is ludicrous! The Netherlands used HUGE windmills and it never affected their bird populations.. try again, scaremongers! Sheesh, would you rather pass on a heritage of your children's children's children's children (ad infinitum!!) glowing from nuclear waste that is already unmanageable??.. It doesn't just 'go away, you know! You afraid that the birds are going to knocked out of the air by JETS too?

 

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